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:::Well the [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rwDPL1jhE-KuEbbcBkkTb44z1smJp9rYme_xb4BIJTk/edit#gid=314137474 params] list "spd_dash_attack_Speed_mul" and "shield_dash_attack_speed_mul" as 1.5 and 0.7 respectively, so that would be my best guess. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 12:06, February 2, 2022 (EST)
:::Well the [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rwDPL1jhE-KuEbbcBkkTb44z1smJp9rYme_xb4BIJTk/edit#gid=314137474 params] list "spd_dash_attack_Speed_mul" and "shield_dash_attack_speed_mul" as 1.5 and 0.7 respectively, so that would be my best guess. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 12:06, February 2, 2022 (EST)
::::I tested in-game and can verify the 1.5 and 0.7 values. Shulk went 1.5/0.7 times the distance overall and per frame. If you need values, here's a [https://pastebin.com/DMLeACXM pastebin] of the first 40 frames with frame 1 as the zero (I'd only trust them within 0.05u at most). I found the animation files, opened them in Blender, and scaled them by 1.5/0.7 and got somewhat close to what I tested. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 18:56, February 2, 2022 (EST)
::::I tested in-game and can verify the 1.5 and 0.7 values. Shulk went 1.5/0.7 times the distance overall and per frame. If you need values, here's a [https://pastebin.com/DMLeACXM pastebin] of the first 40 frames with frame 1 as the zero (I'd only trust them within 0.05u at most). I found the animation files, opened them in Blender, and scaled them by 1.5/0.7 and got somewhat close to what I tested. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 18:56, February 2, 2022 (EST)
== Final Smash-Assist Trophy Connections ==
I figure it's pretty much immaterial now but upon thinking I would say that on the topic of the [[Cook Kirby]] trivia section, that final smash and [[Chef Kawasaki]] don't really have the same function (e.g. Kawasaki uses a ladle to trap fighters, only drops one piece of food rather than several, and can also throw plates), but at the same time, neither do [[Negative Zone]] and [[Ashley]], as while they have some commonalities (e.g. forming a dark zone around themself with some of the same possible hindering effects like damage and slowing), they do not share all their effects (e.g. Negative Zone can increase knockback, Ashley can disable recovery moves). Thus, it seems that trivium is invalid not because there are 2 examples, but because there are none (at least, none I can recall). But if you disagree about Negative Zone and Ashley being significantly different though then I guess you could put that trivium on the Negative Zone page if you feel it belongs. [[User:Pk62001|Pk62001]] ([[User talk:Pk62001|talk]]) 20:45, April 7, 2022 (EDT)
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