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Contact me asap: robharn@gmail.com. | Contact me asap: robharn@gmail.com. | ||
There are serious issues with The Big House 6 results page that I'll have to escalate to your ssbwiki superiors if they aren't resolved. | There are serious issues with The Big House 6 results page that I'll have to escalate to your ssbwiki superiors if they aren't resolved. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Juggleguy|Juggleguy]] ([[User talk:Juggleguy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Juggleguy|contribs]]) 17:58, 13 October 2016 (EST)</small> | ||
:I'm already on your talk page explaining the situation to you, so I can assure you that's not necessary. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareHalloweenSigImage.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:00, 13 October 2016 (EDT) | :I'm already on your talk page explaining the situation to you, so I can assure you that's not necessary. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareHalloweenSigImage.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:00, 13 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
==Focus== | ==Focus== | ||
He's the best Luigi in Georgia, but I don't really know how to source that. Is being the best character in your state enough to qualify as a notable player? His best result is at FP6 | He's the best Luigi in Georgia, but I don't really know how to source that. Is being the best character in your state enough to qualify as a notable player? His best result is at FP6 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Ovenbakedsemwitch|Ovenbakedsemwitch]] ([[User talk:Ovenbakedsemwitch|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ovenbakedsemwitch|contribs]]) 20:48, 15 October 2016 (EST)</small> | ||
:Firstly, please remember to sign your comments (you can see an instruction how near the top of the screen when you edit a talk page). Secondly, claiming they're the best in a state will not do much without evidence, which is why smasher articles are a thing when it comes to notable players sections. The only evidence you can really give in this case are if he's got a good rank on a Power Rank or having good results in general. Two results aren't going to cut it, in my opinion. You can find more info on that and more [[SW:NOTABLE|here]]. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareHalloweenSigImage.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:52, 15 October 2016 (EDT) | :Firstly, please remember to sign your comments (you can see an instruction how near the top of the screen when you edit a talk page). Secondly, claiming they're the best in a state will not do much without evidence, which is why smasher articles are a thing when it comes to notable players sections. The only evidence you can really give in this case are if he's got a good rank on a Power Rank or having good results in general. Two results aren't going to cut it, in my opinion. You can find more info on that and more [[SW:NOTABLE|here]]. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareHalloweenSigImage.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:52, 15 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
:Sry! Still learning the ropes. So looking at that notability guide, would I technically qualify? I lead the greater boston arena, which organizes tournaments for different games in eastern mass and nh.--[[User:Ovenbakedsemwitch|Ovenbakedsemwitch]] ([[User talk:Ovenbakedsemwitch|talk]]) 17:11, 15 October 2016 (EDT) | :Sry! Still learning the ropes. So looking at that notability guide, would I technically qualify? I lead the greater boston arena, which organizes tournaments for different games in eastern mass and nh.--[[User:Ovenbakedsemwitch|Ovenbakedsemwitch]] ([[User talk:Ovenbakedsemwitch|talk]]) 17:11, 15 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
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== Mario Kart Switch == | == Mario Kart Switch == | ||
All those characters I put in were actually in Mario Kart 8. | All those characters I put in were actually in Mario Kart 8. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:174.60.226.20|174.60.226.20]] ([[User talk:174.60.226.20|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/174.60.226.20|contribs]]) 17:36, 22 October 2016 (EST)</small> | ||
:Please sign your comments (see the above when editing talk pages for instructions). Just because it looks like MK8 doesn't mean it is. Even if it's a rerelease, there could still be differences in available characters so we shouldn't just assume which characters are playable and which ones aren't until we get more info. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareHalloweenSigImage.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:56, 22 October 2016 (EDT) | :Please sign your comments (see the above when editing talk pages for instructions). Just because it looks like MK8 doesn't mean it is. Even if it's a rerelease, there could still be differences in available characters so we shouldn't just assume which characters are playable and which ones aren't until we get more info. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareHalloweenSigImage.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:56, 22 October 2016 (EDT) | ||
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==Formatting Question== | ==Formatting Question== | ||
Okay, so I've run into kind of a problem with formatting, and that problem is Rosalina & Luma. There is a separate template for Rosalina's moveset ( | Okay, so I've run into kind of a problem with formatting, and that problem is Rosalina & Luma. There is a separate template for Rosalina's moveset (MvSubNavRosalina), and I just made a different template for Luma's moveset (MvSubNavLuma). But the problem that just occurred to me is that neither of these would link to the main page for Rosalina & Luma, so the information wouldn't be easily accessible. Should I make a new template for Rosalina & Luma and have you delete the other two templates? Or should I just continue making the two as separate characters? [[User:CpnFlacon|CpnFlacon]] ([[User talk:CpnFlacon|talk]]) 14:28, 14 January 2017 (EST) | ||
:Yeah go ahead and make one to merge them both, since they're part of the same character. I'll delete tge other templates when I can get on a computer later. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:34, 14 January 2017 (EST) | |||
::Okay thanks. I'll go ahead and create {{t|MvSubNavRosalina&Luma}}. [[User:CpnFlacon|CpnFlacon]] ([[User talk:CpnFlacon|talk]]) 14:39, 14 January 2017 (EST) | |||
==Tags== | |||
Okay so Toomai says I should start including the {{t|technical data}} tag on all the moves, so I'm going to start doing that. [[User:CpnFlacon|CpnFlacon]] ([[User talk:CpnFlacon|talk]]) 14:30, 16 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:I was hoping we wouldn't need to because the things to do bar is already getting pretty hefty as is, but alrighty. My biggest concern is the fact of whether or not anyone will ever take care of this stuff, but that's a question for another day. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:36, 16 January 2017 (EST) | |||
::As was I for that very same reason. I am also concerned about it ever getting done. I can certainly take care of the hitbox gifs if you can find source where I can find them, but the descriptions and frame data are going to have to be someone else. We should seriously revisit the idea we discussed on my talk page earlier. I think it would be a good idea for the wiki. Miles' suggestion wasn't a bad one, either. [[User:CpnFlacon|CpnFlacon]] ([[User talk:CpnFlacon|talk]]) 15:39, 16 January 2017 (EST) | |||
== Kirby 3D == | |||
Where is it? [[Special:Contributions/50.164.95.83|50.164.95.83]] 14:43, 20 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:Keep pestering me about it and you will be blocked for disruption. I will get to it when I get to it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:47, 20 January 2017 (EST) | |||
==Re: Corrin's gender== | |||
Your argument that we should go with the default is valid, but I don't think we should stringently enforce that rule. After all, the FE wiki does not do this: https://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Corrin. Neither did Kurogane Hammmer: http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Corrin. Nor Nintendo: https://youtu.be/Eq1Xzycyp2E?t=1107. It's absolutely unconventional, but I think it would be a good look for the website if we used Female Corrin as the default, especially since it contrasts nicely with the Male Robin writeup. It's not even just about popularity either; pretty much everyone defaults to Corrin as a girl. Commentators do this, Corrin mains do this, etc. Also I added new content, and I would hate to see it go to waste. [[User:FlamesofRevolution|FlamesofRevolution]] ([[User talk:FlamesofRevolution|talk]]) 11:39, 23 January 2017 (EST)FlamesofRevolution | |||
:First off, new posts go on the bottom, not the top. Second: | |||
::''After all, the FE wiki does not do this'' | |||
::The Fire Emblem wiki does not follow this rule because in terms of the game itself, one gender isn't held over the other (additionally, the female is not the specific one chosen. It's under a randomizing timer that switches between male and female, rendering this argument null). | |||
::''Neither did Kurogane Hammmer'' | |||
::That's simply because, while it is a source of information, it was not intended by any means to be professional. It's intended as a game fan's frame data repository. You can also see this is the case because Lucas is labelled as "Ridley" on the site, Bayonetta's picture is replaced with one of Sakurai, and Corrin's picture is an Arceus. | |||
::''Nor Nintendo'' | |||
::They just use female Corrin in marketing because it sells. Put yourself in the shoes of someone working in a big company. You're definitely more likely than not to use the characters that sells, whether they're officially accepted or not. I would also leave Nintendo out of this too because we are not an official wiki. Therefore, we will not always do it Nintendo's way. | |||
:Now, I'm not sure why this was agreed upon, but it was decided back when SSB4 first came out that all characters with multi-gender costumes must be referred to by their default gender, so it doesn't matter to us if everyone's defaulting to female Corrin. If you have a problem with that, I'd say your best course of action is to go to Corrin's talk page and try to put a change to a vote. I do appreciate the fact that you actually signed, though. It's not often I see a new user who can actually figure that out first try. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 11:54, 23 January 2017 (EST) | |||
::With all due respect, I think you're missing my point. I wasn't trying to say that we should change the writeup ''because'' of the examples I listed (though I honestly had no idea that the fe wiki switched between, my bad). Rather, I used those examples to illustrate that "going with the default" isn't always the best idea or something that most people even do. | |||
:::''They just use female Corrin in marketing because it sells.'' | |||
::I am well aware of the appeal of using what sells, but that's not the only reason. Think about why it sells. Female Corrin is a refreshing contrast to the usual male FE lord. And I think we can tap into that by with the wiki (seeing as how the vast majority of smash are male). Sure, we don't make decisions based on popularity, but i'd argue that this isn't a popularity thing. It relates to the very culture of Smash; people like female Corrin more and largely see "Corrin" as the female character. I think the wiki should reflect these sentiments. We don't need to copy Nintendo (and I never implied we should) but I think they were onto something when they used Corrin as the default. And thanks. I really wanted you to take me seriously so I tried to follow all the rules (but I still screwed up, heh) [[User:FlamesofRevolution|FlamesofRevolution]] ([[User talk:FlamesofRevolution|talk]]) 12:30, 23 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:::I'm not shooting down your opinion by any means, I'm just saying that's the rules that were set in stone. I really can't give you the go ahead for a change this big, whether I liked the idea or not. Like I said, if you are absolutely dead-set on making this change, the best way to go about it is going to Corrin's talk page and attempt to put it to a vote. I can't guarantee what the outcome will be, but I think more people involved could give a better idea of what the community wants. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 13:11, 23 January 2017 (EST) | |||
== Looks like you might need a new admin. == | |||
I know this is an irrelevant post Trip, but I don't know why people are going on SmashWiki just to troll the newest and most active admin on here. I feel like this place needs another admin, more specifically [[User:Poultry|Poultry]], who in my opinion would make a good admin. Not like I'm saying he should be an admin but it could help combat all the troll/spam accounts on the wiki. Sorry for bothering you, enjoy the rest of your day, ;). --[[File:FXSig2.png]] [[User:Falcon-X|<span style="color:Red;text-shadow: 0px 0px 5px Red">'''Falcon-X'''</span>]] [[User talk:Falcon-X#top|<span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 5px Blue">'''('''''Freedom House''''')''' </span>]] 15:28, 23 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:Whether or not he makes a good candidate, I have no control over who gets to be admin. That job lies with the Bureaucrats (well, specifically Toomai, since he's the only active crat), and even then, one must submit an application first if they want to become admin. I appreciate your concern, but I've got it under control for now. :P [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:34, 23 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:I've been inactive/semi active since the beginning of the month, but I intend to change that soon. Please understand that we do have the situation under control. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 15:43, 23 January 2017 (EST) | |||