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==link from old wiki== | ==link from old wiki== | ||
Should we have a link to here from the old wiki? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] 00:10, 1 October 2010 (EDT) | Should we have a link to here from the old wiki? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] 00:10, 1 October 2010 (EDT) | ||
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Any ideas on how to celebrate it? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 19:06, 22 April 2011 (EDT) | Any ideas on how to celebrate it? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 19:06, 22 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
:The brawl rejects smash arena battle.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy. | :The brawl rejects smash arena battle.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 21:20, 22 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
Re-feature Melee on the main page. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:32, 23 April 2011 (EDT) | Re-feature Melee on the main page. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:32, 23 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
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== Featured Article == | == Featured Article == | ||
How long has that featured article been up for? I think we need a new one. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 03:44, 2 May 2011 (EDT) | How long has that featured article been up for? I think we need a new one. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 03:44, 2 May 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Bump.--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:StarFoxSymbol. | :Bump.--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:orange">Star</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">Fox</span>]]''' 10:48, 5 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
== SSB64 testing == | == SSB64 testing == | ||
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== Cut down on strategy/origins, bring back Fanon == | == Cut down on strategy/origins, bring back Fanon == | ||
I'm not sure we should keep strategy or origin sections on this wiki. Saying "This is a good technique" or "This came from that" is opinion. Furthermore, I don't really agree with the removal of Fanon. True, we have a policy saying "no fanon", but we also have a policy saying "this wiki is not official". [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) | I'm not sure we should keep strategy or origin sections on this wiki. Saying "This is a good technique" or "This came from that" is opinion. Furthermore, I don't really agree with the removal of Fanon. True, we have a policy saying "no fanon", but we also have a policy saying "this wiki is not official". [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:45, 26 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
:While there are times where saying something is a good technique can be an opinion, there a techniques that are good and not just opinionated. For example, it is obvious that L-Canceling is a good technique because it reduces recovery time, and can increase the rate of attacks (btw, I know that the L-Canceling article doesn't mention anything that states it's a good technique, but this is just an example). It's not just some people's opinion that it's a good technique, it's highly regarded as such. As for origins, a lot of the stuff isn't opinionated. It is not an opinion that Onett comes from EarthBound or that Great Bay comes from Majora's Mask. While there are different opinions over where the elements of the stage come from, or even [[Smashville|the stage itself]], the sections don't go over those opinions. It just simply states the facts and could possibly let the reader make their own conclusion (Like whether or not Smashville comes from Wild World or City Folk since the stage has elements that contradict both games, or like the section says, "Therefore, there is no conclusive proof that the stage is based on either AC:WW or AC:CF, only speculation, leading some to conclude that Smashville is simply a generic Animal Crossing stage only.") [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 14:10, 26 June 2011 (EDT) | |||
If you see a section on a page relating solely to strategy, then you can remove it, but as already stated "This is a good technique" is okay as long as it's backed up with facts. Origin sections are also not opinion if they are sufficiently backed up. | |||
We stopped allowing fanon because it was decided that fanon was too hard to determine the notability of, and there was also no feasible "cutoff point" for notability. It was too nebulous a determination for something that should be on the back burner anyway. The two options were therefore "allow all fanon" and "allow no fanon", and of course "allow all fanon" is not very acceptable (it would easily drown out the rest of the wiki). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Metroid 14:48, 26 June 2011 (EDT) | |||
:What Toomai and Unknown the Hedgehog said, tbh. Also, how would fanon improve the wiki? This wiki is strictly about the Super Smash Bros. games and their components; fanon does relate to that, whereas origins and strategies do. <font face="Megadeth, Arial Black">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#FF2400">DoctorPain99</font>]] [[User talk:Dr. Pain 99|(Talk •]] [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|Contribs)]]</font> [[file:DoctorPain99.png|19px]] 15:04, 26 June 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Which is more likely: someone looking up how to wavedash or someone looking up a Smash Flash game? I think the former. | |||
::Additionally, origin sections are, in my opinion, more important than the entire Smasher namespace. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:36, 26 June 2011 (EDT) | |||
== yo == | |||
Still can't believe while we ditch Smashwikia, some people still uses it. And has it been turned into a fanon wiki yet? [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Pylons?]] [[File:NessHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 15:16, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:The fanon push failed, as the staff was there to block it, and a fanon Wiki for Smash Bros. already exists on Wikia. As for people who still use it, over 90% are unaware of the move, and believe they're on the SmashWiki they're looking for. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:26, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::So most people are still with Smashwikia right? [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Pylons?]] [[File:NessHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 15:32, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::Readers, probably. Regular users, no. One time IPs, definitely more there. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:52, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:I'm guessing Google bombing didn't work? <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 17:36, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Any Google bombing that has been done has not been sufficient. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:43, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
== New Featured Article == | |||
Shouldn't we have a new featured article by now? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:38, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:I'll change it by the weekend. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:40, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Yay! What will it be? <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 17:42, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Bump.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 07:51, 25 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
==Competitive scene articles== | |||
A lack of articles on some of the more major tournaments and smashers can either be due to lack of users who can research, or notability issues. Which is it. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 10:18, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Many users don't know/don't care about competitive smash. That's probably the issue. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="red">Do<font color="orangered">c<font color="darkorange">t<font color="orange">o<font color="gold">rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>99</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 10:39, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Some people don't know about the tier list right. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|PSI within]] [[File:NessHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 10:57, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:That's not relevant. <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 10:58, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:The gross lack of recent tournament and smasher articles is attributed to lacking users in the active userbase who specialise in that area. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:19, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Is that the only reason for lack of tournaments and smashers? <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 13:21, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::It could be, along with the general lack of interest in creating these articles among the active userbase. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:49, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
== So all smash games are on the sidebar... == | |||
....and logs are off the sidebar, and currents events is off it too, almost as soon as it was put on the sidebar. <font face="Forte">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|29px]]YOUR WINNER!!!!! 18:11, 28 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:I edited the sidebar a) because having only a link to Brawl but not the other two games seemed ridiculous, and b) for whatever reason the sidebar hadn't been showing up even though [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&action=history nobody had edited it]. What are you talking about with logs and current events? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:24, 28 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Current events was on the main page for a bit, at least for me it was. I realized logs appeared when looking at articles and userpages, so nevermind. <font face="Forte">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|29px]]YOUR WINNER!!!!! 18:31, 28 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Wikibound, Fire Emblem Wiki, and Lylat Wiki have affiliated with F-Zero Wiki... == | |||
...why don't we? <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font>''Who ARE YOU running from!?!?'' 14:07, 4 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Is this F-Zero Wiki part of NIWA yet? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 14:08, 4 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:I dunno. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font>''Who ARE YOU running from!?!?'' 14:33, 4 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::It isn't a member yet, though it aims to be in the future. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:40, 4 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Still on wikia right, I know the F-Zero wiki had came from Wikia and would like to leave like we did right. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The Google]] [[File:FoxHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|+]] 15:15, 4 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::[http://mutecity.org] [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:16, 4 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Smashwiki.com == | |||
It still redirects to the Wikia wiki. Is there any way to fix that, or do they own the domain now? --[[Special:Contributions/74.179.110.235|74.179.110.235]] 10:47, 6 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Wikia has always owned the domain, someone could probably try to buy it off them, though I doubt they'd let that go. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] ([[User talk:Malake256|talk]]) 11:51, 6 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::SW was first hosted on SWF as smashwiki.com, I believe.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 11:53, 6 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::That, I did not know lol. Point is, Wikia owns smashwiki.com now, and the only way to get it would be to buy it off them or if they let the domain expire (very likely not going to happen). So the only thing to do would be to try and get as many SSB fans know that SmashWiki is on ssbwiki.com [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] ([[User talk:Malake256|talk]]) 12:04, 6 August 2011 (EDT) | |||