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You just can’t stand to hear any slander about Jigglypuff. This is not my opinion but it is a largely considered fact by pretty much everyone. [[User:Dab Squad Leader|Dab Squad Leader]] ([[User talk:Dab Squad Leader|talk]]) 17:32, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | You just can’t stand to hear any slander about Jigglypuff. This is not my opinion but it is a largely considered fact by pretty much everyone. [[User:Dab Squad Leader|Dab Squad Leader]] ([[User talk:Dab Squad Leader|talk]]) 17:32, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:Before you go and write messages on other users' talk pages, I suggest you actually take the time to read the edit summaries of the edits you are responding to. Your edit did not follow the [[SW:MOS|Manual of Style]], it restated already stated information, and you violated [[SW:1RV]]. Please take some time to rethink your behaviour on the wiki, as your attitude on your talk page and other users' talk pages has not been acceptable. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:36, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | :Before you go and write messages on other users' talk pages, I suggest you actually take the time to read the edit summaries of the edits you are responding to. Your edit did not follow the [[SW:MOS|Manual of Style]], it restated already stated information, and you violated [[SW:1RV]]. Please take some time to rethink your behaviour on the wiki, as your attitude on your talk page and other users' talk pages has not been acceptable. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:36, March 11, 2019 (EDT) | ||
What started information are you talking about? The page never included largely evidence based opinions in the article. Also, who do you think you are, talking to me about how I should talk to people. Hello, you are not my parents or even an admin. | What started information are you talking about? The page never included largely evidence based opinions in the article. Also, who do you think you are, talking to me about how I should talk to people. Hello, you are not my parents or even an admin.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Dab Squad Leader|Dab Squad Leader]] ([[User talk:Dab Squad Leader|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dab Squad Leader|contribs]]) 13:41, March 11, 2019</small> | ||
:"Jigglypuff is currently ranked 55th out of 55 on the tier list, placing it at the bottom of the G tier and the entire tier list itself." | :"Jigglypuff is currently ranked 55th out of 55 on the tier list, placing it at the bottom of the G tier and the entire tier list itself." | ||
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==Do you mind?== | ==Do you mind?== | ||
I would like to have a ''heart to heart'' talk with you and discuss about the block of my account as well as my expulsion from the Discord server. Do you mind? | I would like to have a ''heart to heart'' talk with you and discuss about the block of my account as well as my expulsion from the Discord server. Do you mind? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:79.18.11.200|79.18.11.200]] ([[User talk:79.18.11.200|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/79.18.11.200|contribs]]) 02:17, 2020 February 23</small> | ||
:Alex is not an admin so he wasn't responsible, don't bother him about it. You did this to yourself by ignoring our warnings. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 05:22, February 23, 2020 (EST) | :Alex is not an admin so he wasn't responsible, don't bother him about it. You did this to yourself by ignoring our warnings. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 05:22, February 23, 2020 (EST) | ||
:Also I'll be leavung a message on you talk in case you didn't know about something. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 07:10, February 23, 2020 (EST) | :Also I'll be leavung a message on you talk in case you didn't know about something. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="green">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="red">Toαd</font><font color="blue">64</font>]]'''</span> 07:10, February 23, 2020 (EST) | ||
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== Questions About Knockback == | == Questions About Knockback == | ||
First, sorry if I typed this wrong. I'm new and trying to figure out how to edit pages the best I can. I don't know if this is how I'm suppose to talk to you or not or if I'm vandalizing or something, so sorry in advance. | First, sorry if I typed this wrong. I'm new and trying to figure out how to edit pages the best I can. I don't know if this is how I'm suppose to talk to you or not or if I'm vandalizing or something, so sorry in advance. | ||
Second, Can you explain by your sentence "In Ultimate, characters' falling speeds and gravity are homogenized for moves that launch at angles between 70° and 110°, making the effect negligible." in my eyes, it's not very clear and uses a little to big words in it. If you could elaborate, then I hope we can either make your sentence more clear or just clear my confusion | Second, Can you explain by your sentence "In Ultimate, characters' falling speeds and gravity are homogenized for moves that launch at angles between 70° and 110°, making the effect negligible." in my eyes, it's not very clear and uses a little to big words in it. If you could elaborate, then I hope we can either make your sentence more clear or just clear my confusion <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The Holy Woomy|The Holy Woomy]] ([[User talk:The Holy Woomy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Holy Woomy|contribs]]) 14:58, March 13, 2020</small> | ||
:Fighters have different fall speeds and gravity during hitstun from knockback between these angles, and these gravity values are used instead for the gravity penalty calculation in those cases. Every character has a temporary fall speed of 1.8 and a gravity stat much closer to 0.075 (although there is still some minor variance). ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:03, March 13, 2020 (EDT) | :Fighters have different fall speeds and gravity during hitstun from knockback between these angles, and these gravity values are used instead for the gravity penalty calculation in those cases. Every character has a temporary fall speed of 1.8 and a gravity stat much closer to 0.075 (although there is still some minor variance). ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:03, March 13, 2020 (EDT) | ||
::So what your saying is that if the launch angle is between 70° and 110°, the gravity of the fighter will be added to the knockback instead of (g - 0.075) * 5 (The Holy Wooomy) | ::So what your saying is that if the launch angle is between 70° and 110°, the gravity of the fighter will be added to the knockback instead of (g - 0.075) * 5 (The Holy Wooomy) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The Holy Woomy|The Holy Woomy]] ([[User talk:The Holy Woomy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Holy Woomy|contribs]]) 15:14, March 13, 2020</small> | ||
:::What? No...the same formula is used, the gravity stats are different. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:16, March 13, 2020 (EDT) | :::What? No...the same formula is used, the gravity stats are different. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:16, March 13, 2020 (EDT) | ||
::::Then what are the different gravity stats? 0.075? (The Holy Wooomy) | ::::Then what are the different gravity stats? 0.075? (The Holy Wooomy) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The Holy Woomy|The Holy Woomy]] ([[User talk:The Holy Woomy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Holy Woomy|contribs]]) 15:31, March 13, 2020</small> | ||
:::::I don't know the values off by heart, but you can find them [https://rubendal.github.io/SSBU-Calculator/ here]. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:33, March 13, 2020 (EDT) | :::::I don't know the values off by heart, but you can find them [https://rubendal.github.io/SSBU-Calculator/ here]. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:33, March 13, 2020 (EDT) | ||
Thank you. I'll look over things and figure out something. In the meantime, I have another question though it's not about knockback. How do I edit my page? It says that I'm not allowed to | Thank you. I'll look over things and figure out something. In the meantime, I have another question though it's not about knockback. How do I edit my page? It says that I'm not allowed to <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The Holy Woomy|The Holy Woomy]] ([[User talk:The Holy Woomy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Holy Woomy|contribs]]) 15:42, March 13, 2020</small> | ||
:See [[SW:AUTO]] for details. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:44, March 13, 2020 (EDT) | :See [[SW:AUTO]] for details. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:44, March 13, 2020 (EDT) | ||
::Thank you once again (The Holy Wooomy) | ::Thank you once again (The Holy Wooomy) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The Holy Woomy|The Holy Woomy]] ([[User talk:The Holy Woomy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Holy Woomy|contribs]]) 15:49, March 13, 2010</small> | ||
Does the gravity formula affect knockback or the launch speed? | |||
Does the gravity formula affect knockback or the launch speed? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The Holy Woomy|The Holy Woomy]] ([[User talk:The Holy Woomy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The Holy Woomy|contribs]]) 17:19, March 13, 2020</small> | |||
:Launch speed. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 06:12, March 14, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Also might as well mention a few things. | |||
:To Holy Woomy: When talking on [[SW:TALK|talk pages]] you need to [[SW:SIG|sign your comments]]. Just use 4 tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and you're good. | |||
:To Alex: Just a heads up that your talk page is gettin kinda full (it just passed 36,000 bytes) so ya might want to archive it soon. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>''']] 06:36, March 14, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Thank you Alex the Weeb for more info and OmegaToad for signatures [[User:The Holy Wooomy|<span style="color: red;">'''The Holy Wooomy'''</span>]] 13:48, March 14 2020 (UTC) | |||
== The recent undo on Daisy Blossom == | |||
I was refering to [[Forum:General proposals/Archive 4|here]] where it was decided not to split. However looking at it now that proposal seemed more like splitting/merging all pages in general, not exclusively Daisy Blossom. | |||
For Daisy Blossom's case I would support splitting because it's functionally identical to Peach's, but at the same time this would be inconsistant with other FS pages, because we don't have two differently named FS pages merged (but still Starstorm is on one page despite Lucas's functionally different than Ness's). [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 08:09, April 4, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:This is not something that a sweeping decision can be made on, Daisy Blossom should have its own discussion. We merge all of Daisy's other specials, and Final Smashes are not immune to merging. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 08:17, April 4, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Marth Tipper Stale == | |||
Hey, it says on your userspace that testing things is your life. I was wondering if you could test if damage staling is universal between tippered and non-tippered hits on Marth. An example would be non-tipper forward air hit does 9%, next time it does 8.5%, and a tipper does 14%, if you hit the non-tipper would it lessen the damage on the tipper as well? Thanks --[[User:Monokuro|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:darkblue">'''monokuro'''</span>]] {{Head|Cloud|g=SSBU|s=20px}} <sup>'''['''[[User talk:Monokuro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Monokuro|contributions]]''']'''</sup> 10:07, April 24, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Yes, staleness is attached to the move, not the hitbox. Sorry if the answer seems too straightforward but that's the way it is. Although if you wanted an interesting piece of information on staling, each individual stage of a jab combo stales independently of the others, so for example a jab 1 won't stale the jab 2, and the jab 2 then slightly unstales the jab 1. This is why the more stages a jab combo has, the less affected by staling it appears to be. (Note that the entirety of a rapid jab is a single stage, like with single stage multi-hit moves). ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 10:11, April 24, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Gotcha, that makes sense. Thanks for the information. --[[User:Monokuro|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:darkblue">'''monokuro'''</span>]] {{Head|Cloud|g=SSBU|s=20px}} <sup>'''['''[[User talk:Monokuro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Monokuro|contributions]]''']'''</sup> 12:47, April 24, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Robin Levin Sword Aerials == | |||
Hello, it's me again from the previous section. I know this technically isn't a thing to be tested, but the only two methods I've heard about for activating Robin's Levin Sword in the air are 1) doing a [[smash attack]] on the ground to pull it out then doing an aerial and 2) setting A+B Smash Attack on and then using it in the air for a Levin Sword [[neutral aerial]]. Do you know of any other methods, as I find these inconvenient for my case? Thanks, --[[User:Monokuro|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:darkblue">'''monokuro'''</span>]] {{Head|Cloud|g=SSBU|s=20px}} <sup>'''['''[[User talk:Monokuro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Monokuro|contributions]]''']'''</sup> 17:15, April 28, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Making a smash input in the air also works (that is, quickly flicking the stick and pressing A), or assigning the c-stick to smash attack and using that to perform aerials. | |||
In future, for general questions like that, I'd recommend you join the [[SmashWiki:Discord server|SmashWiki Discord server]] and ask them there, as these are questions that a lot of people can provide answers for. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 17:20, April 28, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Knockback&curid=1405&diff=1415164&oldid=1415161 Edit war] == | |||
You might want to be careful about the edit war you did on [[Knockback]]. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<span style="font-size:12pt"><font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font></span>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font>]]'''</span> 09:30, April 30, 2020 (EDT) | |||