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 == Triva ==
-Regarding Luigi and Bowser Jr., I thought it was interesting that they ''are'' (currently) the ''only'' official family members of another fighter to also be playable. And regarding FE Roy, Koopaling Roy has it in the Koopalings Triva, I thought it could been mentioned on EF Roy's too. I also looked up the definition of "Triva" since you happen to say, "''stretch the whole definition of 'trivia' way too much''. Apparently the definition says " It is "information of little importance or value". At least the edits were on their general character pages and not their fighter pages. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 03:12, 27 June 2018‎ (EDT)</small>
+Regarding Luigi and Bowser Jr., I thought it was interesting that they ''are'' (currently) the ''only'' official family members of another fighter to also be playable. And regarding FE Roy, Koopaling Roy has it in the Koopalings Triva, I thought it could been mentioned on EF Roy's too. I also looked up the definition of "Triva" since you happen to say, "''stretch the whole definition of 'trivia' way too much''. Apparently the definition says " It is "information of little importance or value". At least the edits were on their general character pages and not their fighter pages. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 03:12, 27 June 2018 (EDT)</small>
 :First off, please remember to sign your comments (four tildes at the end, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>)
 :Second, I'm glad you agree with me on some of the trivia points. I admittedly have a pretty strict definition for what qualifies as good trivia, but as for determining what is interesting or not, if it doesn't make me go, "Wow, really?" then it's probably not very interesting. Now, of course, that subjective qualification is unhelpful for you, and what is truly considered to be interesting will ultimately be determined by the collective opinion of the wiki's members. But as the policy says, you should avoid anything that is not very original or is likely to be common knowledge. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 11:48, 27 June 2018 (EDT)
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 Hello again. I'll admit that Duck Hunt and ROB probably did not need the info, but I think Ivysaur ''should'' have it. Ivysaur ''is'' the ''first'' '''quadrupedal''' (walks on four legs) fighter. Usually from what I've see from interviews or sourced material on other Wikis, developers say making a quadrupedal fighter can be more difficult for game play in comparison to a bipedal (walks on two legs) fighter like a human or a quadrupedal ''enemy''. Yes, one could argue that it is irrelevant information since both Pikachu and Pichu can walk on all four, but they are considered bipedal since they can switch between. But quadrupeds can't switch between, and handstands don't count towards being bipedal. I also made sure to check the other fighters from ''64'', ''Melee'', and ''Brawl'' before I made the change about Ivysaur. Also, both Red XIII from ''Final Fantasy VII'' and Repede from ''Tales of Vesperia'' had difficultly implementing the quadrupedal characters whether it was game play or story wise. Also on ''their'' wikis, they mention that they are the first "quadrupedal" or "four-legged" playable character of their series. That said, are you sure it is too ''irrelevant'' to be added? I do respect your opinion since you know more when it comes to editing the ''Smash Wiki''.
-[[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 06:09, 13 July 2018‎ (EDT)</small>
+[[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 06:09, 13 July 2018 (EDT)</small>
 :You’ve basically answered your own question by admitting that Duck Hunt and ROB don’t need the info, as Ivysaur’s reason is exactly the same. The trivia policy even cites a very similar example: “despite moving like a human, Fox has a tail.” At the very least, your trivia points state the obvious and are also uninteresting. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 19:22, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
-::What I had meant was that I should have only edited ''Ivysaur's'' page since it was about Ivysaur being the "''first''" quadruped. I had even double checked the very example you stated. (Yes Fox has a tail, but it is not like he was the first. ''3'' characters had tails in the first game.) I could also say that Rosalina is the first character to "not touch the ground" or "float unless knocked out or paralyzed", but I feel that may be ''too'' specific. I thought it should had been mentioned since quadruped fighters do not ''that'' common, usually only having one on the roster. And I was surprised I had not realized it before. Regardless, if you still feel like it's "obvious" and "uninteresting", I'll stop trying to convince you to add it. [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 10:26pm, 16 July 2018‎ (EDT)
+::What I had meant was that I should have only edited ''Ivysaur's'' page since it was about Ivysaur being the "''first''" quadruped. I had even double checked the very example you stated. (Yes Fox has a tail, but it is not like he was the first. ''3'' characters had tails in the first game.) I could also say that Rosalina is the first character to "not touch the ground" or "float unless knocked out or paralyzed", but I feel that may be ''too'' specific. I thought it should had been mentioned since quadruped fighters do not ''that'' common, usually only having one on the roster. And I was surprised I had not realized it before. Regardless, if you still feel like it's "obvious" and "uninteresting", I'll stop trying to convince you to add it. [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 10:26pm, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
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 == Pichu/Squirtle ==
-(I undid it) It was originally on Squirtle's page, and I thought it could have gone on Pichu's since it applied to Pichu as well. If not part of it. I was not the one who ''originally'' added it to Squirtle's page, but if the info ''itself'' is considered ''"too specific"'', shouldn't it ''also'' be removed from ''Squirtle's'' page as well then? [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 03:18am, 6 August 2018‎ (EDT)
+(I undid it) It was originally on Squirtle's page, and I thought it could have gone on Pichu's since it applied to Pichu as well. If not part of it. I was not the one who ''originally'' added it to Squirtle's page, but if the info ''itself'' is considered ''"too specific"'', shouldn't it ''also'' be removed from ''Squirtle's'' page as well then? [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 03:18am, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
 :It probably should. I'll go take a look when I can. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 04:04, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
-::Since you only got rid of the second part of the trivia on Squrtile's page, and it also applies to Pichu, could the information also be added to Pichu's page? [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 01:27pm, 6 August 2018‎ (EDT)
+::Since you only got rid of the second part of the trivia on Squrtile's page, and it also applies to Pichu, could the information also be added to Pichu's page? [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 01:27pm, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
 :::Short answer is yes, but I'm still on the fence about what was left behind. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 19:28, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
 ::::Okay then, I'll add it to Pichu's page, and you can delete it from both Pichu and Squirtle's pages if you change your mind later. [[User:47.199.44.226|47.199.44.226]] ([[User talk:47.199.44.226|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.199.44.226|contribs]]) 09:24, 7 August 2018 (EDT)</small>