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== "Lost" veterans ==
== "Lost" veterans ==
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== Downloadable characters? ==
== Downloadable characters? ==


I think we should have some sort of way of differentiating downloadable characters besides just the note at the bottom, maybe coloring the slot yellow to match the eShop's theme. Any thoughts? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Zm123bro|Zm123bro]] ([[User talk:Zm123bro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zm123bro|contribs]]) 13:21, 24 October 2014‎ (EDT)</small>
I think we should have some sort of way of differentiating downloadable characters besides just the note at the bottom, maybe coloring the slot yellow to match the eShop's theme. Any thoughts? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Zm123bro|Zm123bro]] ([[User talk:Zm123bro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Zm123bro|contribs]]) 13:21, 24 October 2014 (EDT)</small>
:I changed the background color of 3DS/Wii U Mewtwo gold. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 12:26, 24 October 2014 (EDT)
:I changed the background color of 3DS/Wii U Mewtwo gold. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 12:26, 24 October 2014 (EDT)


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Should we have a navigation system for the characters in order of how they appear on the selection screen, a la bulbapedia pokédex? '''[[User:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#821212;">Littlesquirtle</span>]]'''! '''''[[User talk:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#U1C1C1;">I choose you!</span>]]'''''[[File:LittleSquirtleSig.png|25px]] 11:20, 4 February 2015 (EST)
Should we have a navigation system for the characters in order of how they appear on the selection screen, a la bulbapedia pokédex? '''[[User:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#821212;">Littlesquirtle</span>]]'''! '''''[[User talk:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#U1C1C1;">I choose you!</span>]]'''''[[File:LittleSquirtleSig.png|25px]] 11:20, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:I do '''support''' the idea, but I would like an explanation on how it would work, specifically. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:23, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:I do '''support''' the idea, but I would like an explanation on how it would work, specifically. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:23, 4 February 2015 (EST)
::on the top, there's a bar that has the page behind and before, an icon of the character, and a link to the pages of each character. That's not very well put, so you might want to look at one of the pages for a pokemon on bulbapedia, then look at the top.{{unsigned|Littlesquirtle|11:31, February 4, 2015}}
::on the top, there's a bar that has the page behind and before, an icon of the character, and a link to the pages of each character. That's not very well put, so you might want to look at one of the pages for a pokemon on bulbapedia, then look at the top.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Littlesquirtle|Littlesquirtle]] ([[User talk:Littlesquirtle|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Littlesquirtle|contribs]]) 11:31, February 4, 2015</small>
:::...I don't think that would be necessary, actually. I mean, I'm sure something similar to that could be applied, but we couldn't really organize a whole game's roster like that. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:40, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:::...I don't think that would be necessary, actually. I mean, I'm sure something similar to that could be applied, but we couldn't really organize a whole game's roster like that. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:40, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:::The thing to keep in mind is that each Pokémon has a set number in the Pokédex. That being said, there isn't really anything like that in the Smash games. We could change it up and get it to be sorted by universe and have a different one for each game's page (i.e., there would be a different one [[Mario (SSBM)|here]] than over [[Mario (SSB4)|here]]). But I think that would be basically all we could do. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:43, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:::The thing to keep in mind is that each Pokémon has a set number in the Pokédex. That being said, there isn't really anything like that in the Smash games. We could change it up and get it to be sorted by universe and have a different one for each game's page (i.e., there would be a different one [[Mario (SSBM)|here]] than over [[Mario (SSB4)|here]]). But I think that would be basically all we could do. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:43, 4 February 2015 (EST)
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== Consistency with SSB Switch ==
== Consistency with SSB Switch ==


This page lists Bowser, DK, and Samus as confirmed for SSB Switch. [[Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch|The game page]] doesn't - it mentions them as visible, but stops short of calling them confirmed. Which one is right? It doesn't seem sensible to have the two disagree like this. --[[User:Keiya|Keiya]] ([[User talk:Keiya|talk]]) 16:07, 9 April 2018 (EDT)
This page lists Bowser, DK, and Samus as confirmed for SSB Switch. [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate|The game page]] doesn't - it mentions them as visible, but stops short of calling them confirmed. Which one is right? It doesn't seem sensible to have the two disagree like this. --[[User:Keiya|Keiya]] ([[User talk:Keiya|talk]]) 16:07, 9 April 2018 (EDT)
:For the record, if you posted this same thing [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo Switch|already once]], you don't have to do it twice. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 22:19, 9 April 2018 (EDT)
:For the record, if you posted this same thing [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Ultimate|already once]], you don't have to do it twice. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 22:19, 9 April 2018 (EDT)
 
== Fighter Numbers ==
 
So in both the reveal trailer and the website, each fighter was given a number according to the order they were introduced into the series. The question I want to ask is if we should consider this something that deserves to be listed, on this page and on character infoboxes.
 
If we ''do'' end up going for listing fighter numbers on this page, it would also give us an official way to order the characters, since no game's CSS (before Ultimate) has every Smash character ever on it. Note that the table can be sorted by any column, so viewers can still order characters alphabetically or however.
 
(I would have made this a proposal, but I made my account specifically to do that and I don't want to wait four days.)
 
'''Edit:''' Be sure to also check out [[Template talk:Infobox Character General#Fighter Numbers|my related discussion point on the character infobox talk page]]!
 
Vote below. --[[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 17:41, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
 
=== Yes, list the numbers of each character ===
# '''Support.''' I mean, I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise. It's the most official order for every fighter currently in Smash, it can easily be extended, and it's not as though it would be a huge undertaking to put them there. As for character infoboxes, we already list character's species, gender, and place of origin; and I would argue that these numbers are more pertinent to Smash than all of those. --[[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 17:41, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
#'''List the numbers, but don't sort them by default in that order.''' I think it should be an option to list them by Ultimate's official order, but it's not an order that any other installment uses, so it might be overemphasizing Ultimate if we used that as the basis of the list. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 17:48, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
#'''List the numbers.''' I agree! If we can make it official, then let's do it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 17:50, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
#I agree with Nyargleblargle. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 17:52, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
#'''Put the numbers in a column.''' That way, people can sort by them if they want to. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:56, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
#Agreed. It is official after all. Definitely needs a column. [[User:Master Zach|Master Zach]] ([[User talk:Master Zach|talk]]) 17:58, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
#'''Ultimate Support'''. I did just do it after all. [[User: RobSir_zx|<span style="color:orange">Rob</span>]][[User talk:RobSir_zx|<span style="color:blue">'''Sir '''</span>]][[File:RobSir-sig.jpg|16px]] [[Special:Contributions/RobSir zx|<span style="color:red">zx</span>]] 19:32, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
#'''Support''' Fully agree with Nyargleblargle. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 02:09, 15 June 2018 (EDT)
 
=== No, the numbers aren't notable enough ===
 
== NPC Specification ==
 
If we're putting notes about Ridley's Boss/Hazard appearances in the Playable Characters chart, shouldn't we also have ones for Charizard and Little Mac's Pokeball/Assist Trophy appearances? It feels a bit inconsistent not to. --[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 08:12, 15 June 2018 (EDT)