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[http://i.4cdn.org/v/1538252433916.png] [[User:Axel|Axel]] ([[User talk:Axel|talk]]) 18:43, 29 September 2018 (EDT) Axel
[http://i.4cdn.org/v/1538252433916.png] [[User:Axel|Axel]] ([[User talk:Axel|talk]]) 18:43, 29 September 2018 (EDT) Axel
:What's the source of this? &ndash; [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 18:47, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
:What's the source of this? &ndash; [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 18:47, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
The source is a thread from 4chan {{unsigned|Axel|18:51, September 29, 2018‎}}
The source is a thread from 4chan <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Axel|Axel]] ([[User talk:Axel|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Axel|contribs]]) 18:51, September 29, 2018</small>


==Music Theory==
==Music Theory==
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This (https://twitter.com/MimiqueVEVO/status/1057727633096507392) is a source for the reference {{unsigned|Play Dash|16:22, October 31, 2018‎}}
This (https://twitter.com/MimiqueVEVO/status/1057727633096507392) is a source for the reference <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Play Dash|Play Dash]] ([[User talk:Play Dash|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Play Dash|contribs]]) 16:22, October 31, 2018</small>
:I removed this. It's less of a rumor and more like people jumping on an unrelated reference due to the timing of the game's release. Toby likely put the references in the game just to put the references in the game, rather as a way to "leak" Undertale representation in ''Smash''. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:goldenrod;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:limegreen;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 17:23, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
:I removed this. It's less of a rumor and more like people jumping on an unrelated reference due to the timing of the game's release. Toby likely put the references in the game just to put the references in the game, rather as a way to "leak" Undertale representation in ''Smash''. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:goldenrod;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:limegreen;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 17:23, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
::I agree. I don't see any connection whatsoever between the Deltarune teaser and Ultimate, especially when it's purpose (as far as I know) is to hide a secret beta copy of Deltarune. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:09, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
::I agree. I don't see any connection whatsoever between the Deltarune teaser and Ultimate, especially when it's purpose (as far as I know) is to hide a secret beta copy of Deltarune. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:09, 31 October 2018 (EDT)
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== Spirits leak ==
== Spirits leak ==
Should the entry about the leak of the name of Spirits mode be transplanted to the Leaks page? I know the guidelines state that examples shouldn't be removed when proven true, but this one's kind of just "someone figured out a thing before it was officially revealed," isn't it? [[User:Crittler1000+|Crittler1000+]] ([[User talk:Crittler1000+|talk]]) 01:37, 5 November 2018 (EST)
Should the entry about the leak of the name of Spirits mode be transplanted to the Leaks page? I know the guidelines state that examples shouldn't be removed when proven true, but this one's kind of just "someone figured out a thing before it was officially revealed," isn't it? [[User:Crittler1000+|Crittler1000+]] ([[User talk:Crittler1000+|talk]]) 01:37, 5 November 2018 (EST)
:No because Loz18 didn't leak it so this site thinks its totally fake completely. {{unsigned|104.56.148.18|20:29, November 12, 2018‎}}
:No because Loz18 didn't leak it so this site thinks its totally fake completely. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:104.56.148.18|104.56.148.18]] ([[User talk:104.56.148.18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/104.56.148.18|contribs]]) 20:29, November 12, 2018</small>


==Banner Leak 2.0==
==Banner Leak 2.0==
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:We make pages for popular leakers. Don't get all pissy about it. We do it whether they're [[ESRB leak|right]] or [[Gematsu leaks|wrong]]. All that matters is they're popular. That said, I don't know why we don't have a Vergeben page yet, since it is the Gematsu of Smash Ultimate. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:47, 18 December 2018 (EST)
:We make pages for popular leakers. Don't get all pissy about it. We do it whether they're [[ESRB leak|right]] or [[Gematsu leaks|wrong]]. All that matters is they're popular. That said, I don't know why we don't have a Vergeben page yet, since it is the Gematsu of Smash Ultimate. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:47, 18 December 2018 (EST)
::And also, IP, what do you mean we "made up him claiming the Square rep would be first"? Vergeben literally said it himself: [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77160319?jumpto=4#4 "The Square Enix character. I can vouch is definitely happening and the first DLC character at that."] We're not saying he's fully right right now because he isn't; [[Leak#Super Smash Bros. Brawl leaks|correct past leaks we list]] were 100% correct. Vergeben did get a lot right, sure, and a lot of what he said was confirmed in the November Direct, but that doesn't mean that he's automatically a Smash prophet and everything he says is the word of God. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:56, 18 December 2018 (EST)
::And also, IP, what do you mean we "made up him claiming the Square rep would be first"? Vergeben literally said it himself: [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77160319?jumpto=4#4 "The Square Enix character. I can vouch is definitely happening and the first DLC character at that."] We're not saying he's fully right right now because he isn't; [[Leak#Super Smash Bros. Brawl leaks|correct past leaks we list]] were 100% correct. Vergeben did get a lot right, sure, and a lot of what he said was confirmed in the November Direct, but that doesn't mean that he's automatically a Smash prophet and everything he says is the word of God. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:56, 18 December 2018 (EST)
and Loz18 is? I must not have unlocked Skull Kid then.
and Loz18 is? I must not have unlocked Skull Kid then. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:104.56.148.18|104.56.148.18]] ([[User talk:104.56.148.18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/104.56.148.18|contribs]]) 19:42, December 20, 2018</small>
:Watch it, IP. Loz18 got more stuff right initially, and that's why they're up on the leaks page. Vergeben had yet to have many of his claims proven true, and he got them correct at a time when everything was busy, because the game went gold and we got a lot of information at once. Hell, we're ''still'' gathering information now because we sure as hell don't have everything. So how about, instead of bitching to us about, for all intents and purposes, a very minor page, you help out with the rest of the wiki instead? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:55, 20 December 2018 (EST)
 
Hello, I compile and fact check rumors with not only DasVergeben but even other notable insider outlets that seems to agree with his rumors based on what they have on their end. (i.e. Hitagi, Xenother, Sabi/PolarPanda, some private outlets with ResetERA connections, etc.) To be more clearer, i am not an actual insider but more of a witness eye instead.
 
I, personally, do think Verge deserves a page based on mostly his Smash rumors he has provided (right or wrong) and I can help lend all the sourced claims for citation as well. And if there's going to be a page, we might have to include rumors and the people that agree or cooperated with whatever. (kinda like how Ninka/Vaanrose fueled the ESRB leak)
 
and to IP, [https://smashboards.com/threads/spoiler-alert-the-sevens-squares-a-square-enix-general-support-threads.464600/page-117#post-22876378 there's already a new '''and earlier''' 5ch rumor  '''(dubbed as the DOOM leak)''' in making supporting everything what the later 5ch rumor said] and could help resolve why Vergeben and other insider outlets assumed the S-E rep/possible Erdrick was first in line. (which could already be assumed its pushed back due to Reggie's request to get Joker out earlier for a TGAs reveal) [[User:ZenythSmash|ZenythSmash]] ([[User talk:ZenythSmash|talk]]) 12:30, 31 December 2018 (EST)
 
I have the Vergeben page [[User:Pancham/Sandbox|typed and scripted]]. Now all I need is someone to help me add some finishing touches to it so we'd move the Vergeben info to a new page. -- [[File:PanchamHeadIconFanart.png|23px|link=]] [[User:Pancham|Pancham]] ([[User talk:Pancham|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pancham|contributions]]) 15:32, 31 December 2018 (EST)
 
== The Dragon Quest/Persona 5 Stage Rumor and "Skills" ==
 
So I was reading the most recently listed rumor, and I was confused by what the "leaker" meant by "The stage will have so-and-so appear on the screen with a skill."
What do they mean by skills? It'd be nice to know what this jargon means. [[User:CardboardLuigi|CardboardLuigi]] ([[User talk:CardboardLuigi|talk]]) 21:49, 20 December 2018 (EST)
:I'm guessing like a spell or something. Like Jack Frost popping up and freezing you, or Slime doing whatever it is Slimes do. I pretty much get what it means but we could stand to change the phrasing. [[User:Crittler1000+|Crittler1000+]] ([[User talk:Crittler1000+|talk]]) 00:08, 22 December 2018 (EST)
 
== When Leakers Mention a Specific Square Enix Rep. ==
 
So more than a few of the "leaks" on here bring up that there will be another Square Enix rep, while mentioning who it "might" be. (I.E: A Square Enix rep will be DLC, and my sources say it might be Geno.)
If Nintendo reveals a SE character, but it isn't the one the leak said "might" be in, would it be considered debunked or not? [[User:CardboardLuigi|CardboardLuigi]] ([[User talk:CardboardLuigi|talk]]) 19:06, 4 January 2019 (EST)
:It would probably stay here, mentioning that the leak was technically correct but may have been a lucky guess. Most of these leaks predict other things, too, so if those came true more directly, then it would be a safe bet that the leak was legitimate. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:25, 4 January 2019 (EST)
 
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