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:What's the source of this? – [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 18:47, 29 September 2018 (EDT) | :What's the source of this? – [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 18:47, 29 September 2018 (EDT) | ||
The source is a thread from 4chan | The source is a thread from 4chan <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Axel|Axel]] ([[User talk:Axel|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Axel|contribs]]) 18:51, September 29, 2018</small> | ||
==Music Theory== | ==Music Theory== | ||
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Just curious, but should this get a page like the ESRB leak? It's blown up to such an extent that I think it deserves a page.--[[Special:Contributions/86.188.32.197|86.188.32.197]] 17:37, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | Just curious, but should this get a page like the ESRB leak? It's blown up to such an extent that I think it deserves a page.--[[Special:Contributions/86.188.32.197|86.188.32.197]] 17:37, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
:I feel like we should wait, as I've recently made a page on the extremely popular Vergeben leaks, but general consensus decided that it was unnecessary. Plus, it's still a relatively new leak/rumor so I think we should wait. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:07, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
There’s a couple of things you should add/change: for change where it says “It was also revealed by French graphics company Marina PLV that the leaker used to work for them, and left the company in 2016[32]; this, while true, was countered by the fact that the company the leak came from is ACP-PLV, where the leaker currently works.” You should change that to say “This lead people to believe this is where the leak came from because this is where the leaker currently works.” | |||
Now for the stuff to add. NintendoActu on Twitter reaches out to the guy, and he told them he wasn’t aware of it. https://www.twitter.com/NintendoActu/status/1055457829769883648 | |||
Artsy Omni also pointed out that the parts of the background that were changed were areas obscured by the characters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bQWQVUPnl4 | |||
-Operationgamer17 | |||
== "Some users have pointed out that the portrait of Pichu has *his* ear cut off, " == | == "Some users have pointed out that the portrait of Pichu has *his* ear cut off, " == | ||
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::: I'm fairly sure we're using the ''Castlevania'' music leak as the basis here; it'll go to the leak page once we know for sure what the item is. [[User:DryKirby64|DryKirby64]] ([[User talk:DryKirby64|talk]]) 16:53, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | ::: I'm fairly sure we're using the ''Castlevania'' music leak as the basis here; it'll go to the leak page once we know for sure what the item is. [[User:DryKirby64|DryKirby64]] ([[User talk:DryKirby64|talk]]) 16:53, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
::::That was the intention: it's going on here until it's confirmed. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:05, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | ::::That was the intention: it's going on here until it's confirmed. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:05, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
==Skull Kid Potentially in the Banner Leak== | |||
A lot of people have debated over this, but should we point out that Skull Kid is possibly in Grinch Leak too? Many people claim to see him in front of Mach Rider. Some say it's his headlights, which are not two big circles. There is also the detail how said spot you can roughly see the horns and shape of Majora's Mask, and there is something purple and something a whitish yellow next to him. These could be Tatl and Tael, further pointing at Skull Kid in the banner. I am not sure if I am on team real or fake when it comes to the banner, but I am convinced that Skull Kid is there infront of Mach Rider. Maybe after listing the character that we know are in the Grinch Leak, we could just add 'add possibly Skull Kid from the Zelda series' --[[User:Solgalillie|Solgalillie]] ([[User talk:Solgalillie|talk]]) 20:08, 29 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
:I'm going to tackle this in a way this echoes (no pun intended) what we did for the shadows back in March: people see what they want to see, but if it's explicitly there, then we note it. That said, if this banner leak holds true, and Skull Kid is indeed where what others presume to be Mach Rider's bike's headlights are, then the section covering this whole situation will be properly updated. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:29, 29 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
:If you can find a good source, then definitely. It's not that I don't trust you, but I don't see a lot of debate on this, at least on Twitter. As for Aidan's response, I believe that since this is a rumor and not speculation, Skull Kid should be added. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 20:32, 29 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
==New Claim by DasVergeben== | |||
[https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77149243?jumpto=224#224 Vergeben's now saying Isaac will return as an Assist Trophy.] In my opinion, a bold move to claim given recent events. [[User:Mjmannella|Mjmannella]] ([[User talk:Mjmannella|talk]]) 07:06, 31 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
:Not quite as ballsy as some [https://genesisclassics.sega.com/ other] [http://yokaiwatch.wikia.com/wiki/Yo-kai_Watch_3 things] sharing Ultimate's release day (for the latter, in Europe) if you ask me, but it has been noted on the page. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Yatterman'''</span>]] 10:35, 31 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Deltarune Reference Rumor == | |||
Some users have pointed something about a reference in Deltarune, the new Undertale sequel (yes its real), about Smash could possibly be a leak about a fighter from the Undertale universe (Sans being most popular) | |||
This is a minor-but-still-important rumor but we have included some small rumors still so... | |||
Edit: Also, the website for Deltarune says the thing in the picture below, and we will have a Smash Direct close to that time... | |||
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq207dBWsAIPrq9.jpg | |||
Of course, this was made not NOW but before some hours | |||
Other edit: | |||
This (https://twitter.com/MimiqueVEVO/status/1057727633096507392) is a source for the reference <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Play Dash|Play Dash]] ([[User talk:Play Dash|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Play Dash|contribs]]) 16:22, October 31, 2018</small> | |||
:I removed this. It's less of a rumor and more like people jumping on an unrelated reference due to the timing of the game's release. Toby likely put the references in the game just to put the references in the game, rather as a way to "leak" Undertale representation in ''Smash''. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:goldenrod;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:limegreen;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 17:23, 31 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
::I agree. I don't see any connection whatsoever between the Deltarune teaser and Ultimate, especially when it's purpose (as far as I know) is to hide a secret beta copy of Deltarune. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:09, 31 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Spirits leak == | |||
Should the entry about the leak of the name of Spirits mode be transplanted to the Leaks page? I know the guidelines state that examples shouldn't be removed when proven true, but this one's kind of just "someone figured out a thing before it was officially revealed," isn't it? [[User:Crittler1000+|Crittler1000+]] ([[User talk:Crittler1000+|talk]]) 01:37, 5 November 2018 (EST) | |||
:No because Loz18 didn't leak it so this site thinks its totally fake completely. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:104.56.148.18|104.56.148.18]] ([[User talk:104.56.148.18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/104.56.148.18|contribs]]) 20:29, November 12, 2018</small> | |||
==Banner Leak 2.0== | |||
https://imgur.com/gallery/YWn2LgQ | |||
Should we discuss this one? Apperantly this was datamined from the Smash site, and the art of Impa and Zeraora look pretty inline with the rest. Not only that, but unlike the Grinch Leak, there is no blur at all to this one. --[[User:Solgalillie|Solgalillie]] ([[User talk:Solgalillie|talk]]) 18:41, 24 November 2018 (EST) | |||
:First of all, the whole base roster has been revealed, and DLC characters have been finalized two weeks ago, so it's improbable that this leak is true. | |||
:Second, the artwork of Impa and Zeraora is taken from their official artwork as posted [https://imgur.com/gallery/YWn2LgQ here], so it's pretty much a guaranteed hoax imo. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:45, 24 November 2018 (EST) | |||
::To be quite frank, any leak with Zeraora in it, to me, is absolutely fake. On top of that, that uses Impa's Hyrule Warriors design, and any Dynasty Warriors-related spinoffs from a Nintendo series have yet to be acknowledged in Ultimate. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:46, 24 November 2018 (EST) | |||
== Nintenderos Placeholder rumor == | |||
Pretty sure I'm not the only one who thinks it should've been removed a while ago. It's confusingly redacted, and the rumor itself died out (and contradicted itself) pretty quickly. | |||
Also, the guy who added it keeps insisting it stays. ([[User:DangerMD|DangerMD]] ([[User talk:DangerMD|talk]]) 13:43, 12 December 2018 (EST)) | |||
== Split the Vergeben section into a new page == | |||
Vergeben's section on the List of rumors has too much going into it, that we may as well make this into a separated page so that the Vergeben section is more streamlined for our readers. '''Support'''. [[User:Sans|<font face="Comic Sans MS">sans</font>]] {[[User talk:Sans|<font face="Comic Sans MS">talk</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sans|<font face="Comic Sans MS">contributions</font>]]) 16:35, 16 December 2018 (EST) | |||
Yeah like that'll happen when they dont want to acknowledge he was right and make up him claiming the square rep would be first... They'll give Loz18 a page before then. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:104.56.148.18|104.56.148.18]] ([[User talk:104.56.148.18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/104.56.148.18|contribs]]) 00:43, 18 December 2018 (EST)</small> | |||
:We make pages for popular leakers. Don't get all pissy about it. We do it whether they're [[ESRB leak|right]] or [[Gematsu leaks|wrong]]. All that matters is they're popular. That said, I don't know why we don't have a Vergeben page yet, since it is the Gematsu of Smash Ultimate. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:47, 18 December 2018 (EST) | |||
::And also, IP, what do you mean we "made up him claiming the Square rep would be first"? Vergeben literally said it himself: [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77160319?jumpto=4#4 "The Square Enix character. I can vouch is definitely happening and the first DLC character at that."] We're not saying he's fully right right now because he isn't; [[Leak#Super Smash Bros. Brawl leaks|correct past leaks we list]] were 100% correct. Vergeben did get a lot right, sure, and a lot of what he said was confirmed in the November Direct, but that doesn't mean that he's automatically a Smash prophet and everything he says is the word of God. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:56, 18 December 2018 (EST) | |||
and Loz18 is? I must not have unlocked Skull Kid then. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:104.56.148.18|104.56.148.18]] ([[User talk:104.56.148.18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/104.56.148.18|contribs]]) 19:42, December 20, 2018</small> | |||
:Watch it, IP. Loz18 got more stuff right initially, and that's why they're up on the leaks page. Vergeben had yet to have many of his claims proven true, and he got them correct at a time when everything was busy, because the game went gold and we got a lot of information at once. Hell, we're ''still'' gathering information now because we sure as hell don't have everything. So how about, instead of bitching to us about, for all intents and purposes, a very minor page, you help out with the rest of the wiki instead? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:55, 20 December 2018 (EST) | |||
Hello, I compile and fact check rumors with not only DasVergeben but even other notable insider outlets that seems to agree with his rumors based on what they have on their end. (i.e. Hitagi, Xenother, Sabi/PolarPanda, some private outlets with ResetERA connections, etc.) To be more clearer, i am not an actual insider but more of a witness eye instead. | |||
I, personally, do think Verge deserves a page based on mostly his Smash rumors he has provided (right or wrong) and I can help lend all the sourced claims for citation as well. And if there's going to be a page, we might have to include rumors and the people that agree or cooperated with whatever. (kinda like how Ninka/Vaanrose fueled the ESRB leak) | |||
and to IP, [https://smashboards.com/threads/spoiler-alert-the-sevens-squares-a-square-enix-general-support-threads.464600/page-117#post-22876378 there's already a new '''and earlier''' 5ch rumor '''(dubbed as the DOOM leak)''' in making supporting everything what the later 5ch rumor said] and could help resolve why Vergeben and other insider outlets assumed the S-E rep/possible Erdrick was first in line. (which could already be assumed its pushed back due to Reggie's request to get Joker out earlier for a TGAs reveal) [[User:ZenythSmash|ZenythSmash]] ([[User talk:ZenythSmash|talk]]) 12:30, 31 December 2018 (EST) | |||
I have the Vergeben page [[User:Pancham/Sandbox|typed and scripted]]. Now all I need is someone to help me add some finishing touches to it so we'd move the Vergeben info to a new page. -- [[File:PanchamHeadIconFanart.png|23px|link=]] [[User:Pancham|Pancham]] ([[User talk:Pancham|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pancham|contributions]]) 15:32, 31 December 2018 (EST) | |||
== The Dragon Quest/Persona 5 Stage Rumor and "Skills" == | |||
So I was reading the most recently listed rumor, and I was confused by what the "leaker" meant by "The stage will have so-and-so appear on the screen with a skill." | |||
What do they mean by skills? It'd be nice to know what this jargon means. [[User:CardboardLuigi|CardboardLuigi]] ([[User talk:CardboardLuigi|talk]]) 21:49, 20 December 2018 (EST) | |||
:I'm guessing like a spell or something. Like Jack Frost popping up and freezing you, or Slime doing whatever it is Slimes do. I pretty much get what it means but we could stand to change the phrasing. [[User:Crittler1000+|Crittler1000+]] ([[User talk:Crittler1000+|talk]]) 00:08, 22 December 2018 (EST) | |||
== When Leakers Mention a Specific Square Enix Rep. == | |||
So more than a few of the "leaks" on here bring up that there will be another Square Enix rep, while mentioning who it "might" be. (I.E: A Square Enix rep will be DLC, and my sources say it might be Geno.) | |||
If Nintendo reveals a SE character, but it isn't the one the leak said "might" be in, would it be considered debunked or not? [[User:CardboardLuigi|CardboardLuigi]] ([[User talk:CardboardLuigi|talk]]) 19:06, 4 January 2019 (EST) | |||
:It would probably stay here, mentioning that the leak was technically correct but may have been a lucky guess. Most of these leaks predict other things, too, so if those came true more directly, then it would be a safe bet that the leak was legitimate. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:25, 4 January 2019 (EST) | |||
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