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I feel like someone should edit the article, preferably someone who doesn't have a stance on m2k's behavior, to eliminate poor wording that shows opinions supporting and opposing him. Informational wikis are generally the place for unbiased information, and the presentation of the controversies section is extremely poor. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:74.237.129.01|74.237.129.01]] ([[User talk:74.237.129.01|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/74.237.129.01|contribs]]) 22:54, 24 April | I feel like someone should edit the article, preferably someone who doesn't have a stance on m2k's behavior, to eliminate poor wording that shows opinions supporting and opposing him. Informational wikis are generally the place for unbiased information, and the presentation of the controversies section is extremely poor. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:74.237.129.01|74.237.129.01]] ([[User talk:74.237.129.01|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/74.237.129.01|contribs]]) 22:54, 24 April 2014</small> | ||
:It would be quite helpful if you could point to specific passages. I have tried to go through this and remove some of the biased writing before, but am willing to accept that I might have missed some things. If you can point me (or anyone else) to specific points that you find not well written, I'd be happy to take another look. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 23:40, 24 April 2014 (EDT) | :It would be quite helpful if you could point to specific passages. I have tried to go through this and remove some of the biased writing before, but am willing to accept that I might have missed some things. If you can point me (or anyone else) to specific points that you find not well written, I'd be happy to take another look. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 23:40, 24 April 2014 (EDT) | ||
::[http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/23katl/m2ks_im_4_stocking_you_face_from_fp4_last_night/cgy52j7 Someone on Reddit did a pretty good writeup on why the section is biased], something which I've personally felt for a while now. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 06:38, 12 May 2014 (EDT) | ::[http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/23katl/m2ks_im_4_stocking_you_face_from_fp4_last_night/cgy52j7 Someone on Reddit did a pretty good writeup on why the section is biased], something which I've personally felt for a while now. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 06:38, 12 May 2014 (EDT) | ||
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==Smash 64 Skill== | ==Smash 64 Skill== | ||
Mew2King has gone even with Sensei, who is labeled as "top professional", defeated Fireblaster who is "top professional" and Fireblaster has gotten top 8 at Apex 2015 and 5th at Smash Con in Smash 64. He also took Superboomfan to last stock + last hit in Smash 64. I say we put him as top professional. He also defeated Kero in set 1 of grand finals (Kero was not playing his main), but he even took a game off of him when he was playing his main who he got 2nd at Super Smash Con with. | Mew2King has gone even with Sensei, who is labeled as "top professional", defeated Fireblaster who is "top professional" and Fireblaster has gotten top 8 at Apex 2015 and 5th at Smash Con in Smash 64. He also took Superboomfan to last stock + last hit in Smash 64. I say we put him as top professional. He also defeated Kero in set 1 of grand finals (Kero was not playing his main), but he even took a game off of him when he was playing his main who he got 2nd at Super Smash Con with. | ||
:As I explained on the edit summary, Mew2King has only ever beaten Sensei when he wasn't using his main, and Fireblaster wasn't considered to be a "top professional" at the time that he lost to Mew2King. I think "Professional" suits M2K fine, but it's unlikely that he would get Top 16 at an ''SSB64'' major. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 16:55, 24 October 2015 (EDT) | :As I explained on the edit summary, Mew2King has only ever beaten Sensei when he wasn't using his main, and Fireblaster wasn't considered to be a "top professional" at the time that he lost to Mew2King. I think "Professional" suits M2K fine, but it's unlikely that he would get Top 16 at an ''SSB64'' major. Also, keep in mind that you're citing wins from a couple years ago, and that all of those players have improved heavily since then (especially Fireblaster). [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 16:55, 24 October 2015 (EDT) | ||
== Mew2King's own comments on the "perceived controversy" section == | == Mew2King's own comments on the "perceived controversy" section == | ||
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Mew2King has been playing Smash competitively for 10 to 12 years years by now and seeing how some of his "Notable tournament placings" section is getting big, I kinda want to reduce the size of it by a bit. Either maybe create subsections for each game or get rid of the ones that are really minor. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Greninja 13:56, 22 July 2015 (EDT) | Mew2King has been playing Smash competitively for 10 to 12 years years by now and seeing how some of his "Notable tournament placings" section is getting big, I kinda want to reduce the size of it by a bit. Either maybe create subsections for each game or get rid of the ones that are really minor. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Greninja 13:56, 22 July 2015 (EDT) | ||
:Wouldn't it just be simpler to take off the word "notable"? Frankly, more Smasher pages should have tourney results this exhaustive; it's honestly the most important thing for a Smasher page other than the opening paragraph(s). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:12, 22 July 2015 (EDT) | :Wouldn't it just be simpler to take off the word "notable"? Frankly, more Smasher pages should have tourney results this exhaustive; it's honestly the most important thing for a Smasher page other than the opening paragraph(s). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:12, 22 July 2015 (EDT) | ||
== Semi-protect? == | |||
This page has been getting vandalized a lot lately. I '''support''', obviously. Discuss. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 20:56, 2 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:It's only happened once in a while, and it was minor. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:57, 2 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:: Meh,'''oppose'''. It is vandalized a lot, but not enough, IMO. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 20:58, 2 February 2016 (EST) | |||
We really don't vote on protection anyway. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:00, 2 February 2016 (EST) | |||
yey '''I support''' | |||
"TIERS ARE 4 QUEERS" [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 21:04, 2 February 2016 (EST) | |||
Yeah uh we still don't vote on protection. I do think this has been vandalized enough to be worth it though. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 21:06, 2 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:Why? It's the first time in a while... <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:10, 2 February 2016 (EST) | |||
::Well, I guess that's true. Still, he's one of the higher candidates for protection. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 21:13, 2 February 2016 (EST) | |||
::I guess you could call it a first...nonetheless I looked through the history and...looking at the date of the attacks, closed in as they were, I repeal. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 07:02, 3 February 2016 (EST) | |||
== Ranked on most global power rankings? == | |||
M2K is ranked on three of the most recent global power rankings ([[2014 SSBBRank]], [[2015 SSBMRank]] and [[Panda Global SSB4 Rankings]]). Is anyone else on three? Is there a more recent Brawl rank or a Project M rank? I think we could add this to trivia. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 19:34, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:ESAM is also ranked on all three. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 21:47, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Do you think this could be mentioned on both of their trivia sections if it is unique to only two people? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 11:13, 21 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Mew2King's Melee Data == | |||
The link for ClashTournament's page, where all the data of Mew2King research on Melee is no longer available, there's a thread in Smashboards regarding his research, also posted by M2K himself, but I don't know if that's his whole research data. Can anyone confirm this? | |||
Here's the SmashBoards post, August 8th 2003 | |||
*[http://smashboards.com/threads/ssbm-statistics-list.30064/ SmashBoards SSBM Statistics List] | |||
[[User:JL-Noir]] 18 July 2016, 19:55:56 EDT | |||
:Not 100% sure, but we should probably mention it anyway. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 19:59, 18 July 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Tournament Activity == | |||
I feel like M2K's page needs an overhaul and an update, he is not nearly as active as he used to be (with his focus on streaming being cited as one of the main reasons for his semi-activity) and there is also little to no mention of his more recent results. It is also not structured like some of the other pages, having only a main paragraph (which includes what should be a summary of his results) and playing styles for both ''Melee'' and ''Smash 4'' before going into his results. As such, it's hard to place the newer info and I feel like putting what I mentioned into trivia won't really help. [[User:Smashgold347238|<span style="color:#D4AF37">Gold</span>]] [[file:Goldsig.png|20px|link=User talk:Smashgold347238]] 03:02, June 14, 2019 (EDT) | |||