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== Incineroar's blue costume, could it resemble Hydreigon? == | == Incineroar's blue costume, could it resemble Hydreigon? == | ||
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== Regarding continuity errors == | == Regarding continuity errors == | ||
It is mentioned that Mewtwo's dark colors are based on Shadow Lugia from Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness and not Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken Tournament, which makes sense due to the fact this alt predates Shadow Mewtwo, but why is Jigglypuff's hibiscus alt listed as a reference to Pheobe from Ruby & Sapphire if this alt also predates Pheobe? Change the description to just be a costume from Melee or leave it blank. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Bigchunguskeanu|Bigchunguskeanu]] ([[User talk:Bigchunguskeanu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bigchunguskeanu|contribs]]) 12:44, May 5, | It is mentioned that Mewtwo's dark colors are based on Shadow Lugia from Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness and not Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken Tournament, which makes sense due to the fact this alt predates Shadow Mewtwo, but why is Jigglypuff's hibiscus alt listed as a reference to Pheobe from Ruby & Sapphire if this alt also predates Pheobe? Change the description to just be a costume from Melee or leave it blank. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Bigchunguskeanu|Bigchunguskeanu]] ([[User talk:Bigchunguskeanu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bigchunguskeanu|contribs]]) 12:44, May 5, 2020 (EDT)</small> | ||
:Please don't forget to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:50, May 5, 2020 (EDT) | :Please don't forget to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:50, May 5, 2020 (EDT) | ||
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:::This goes beyond a few minor discrepancies; the black alt is completely different from Hilda, for the reasons Serena and I previously outlined. To speculate that it's based on Hilda without any clear evidence would fall under [[SW:SPEC]]. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 15:59, May 6, 2020 (EDT) | :::This goes beyond a few minor discrepancies; the black alt is completely different from Hilda, for the reasons Serena and I previously outlined. To speculate that it's based on Hilda without any clear evidence would fall under [[SW:SPEC]]. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 15:59, May 6, 2020 (EDT) | ||
::If it was supposed to be a reference to Hilda, it would have been very obvious. But as it stands, I remember Hilda having dark purple or indigo hair and crimson eyes, not silver hair and blue eyes. I agree with PeabodySam, here. It's way too different. And I feel like that should go without saying. [[User:JustCallMeAL|JustCallMeAL]] ([[User talk:JustCallMeAL|talk]]) 13:41, December 13, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Cloud's blue alt == | == Cloud's blue alt == | ||
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Cheers! - [[User:Meeper12346|Meeper12346]] ([[User talk:Meeper12346|talk]]) 14:03, June 23, 2020 (EDT) | Cheers! - [[User:Meeper12346|Meeper12346]] ([[User talk:Meeper12346|talk]]) 14:03, June 23, 2020 (EDT) | ||
== Lucina’s 4th costume looks more like an Olivia inspired costume == | |||
Hello! | |||
Lucina’s 4th costume seems to bear heavier resemblance to Olivia than Cordelia especially with the shading of the hair being a perfect match. It’s especially clear with her model in Warriors versus Lucina’s smash model | |||
Both are based in white; but the pink shades don’t match up to Cordelia much anyway (who is listed) so basing it off the hair and primarily white, it most looks like Olivia. | |||
== Corrin's 4th (orange) costume is probably based on Oboro == | |||
Oboro has a similar orange/black/blue color scheme, although the hair color is different. | |||
== Inkling == | |||
So I was looking around videos and photos from splatoon and I noticed a couple things | |||
*1. Inklings green alternate costumes is a reference to the Sheldon Picks box, while the Armor Jacket and Skull Bandana are right, the Moto Boots are not, Instead they are the octoling boots from Splatoon 1 | |||
*2. Despite not owning Splatoon on the Wii U, I found the Pink alternate costume at the beginning of the training section. The File on inkipedia is [https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/File:Tutorial_1.jpg here] | |||
*3. Their purple alternate costume is also shown on the amiibo box for the splatoon 1 inkling girl amiibo, and the splatoon 1 3-pack albeit the inkling girl is orange, not purple. | |||
If this shouldn't be added, please let me know underneath. Just wanted to provide some info. [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue; 0px">S3AHAWK</span>]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Comic Sans MS;color: Red;">talk</span>'']])[[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]] 03:18, August 15, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Link black alt == | |||
The description for Link's black alt incorrectly describes it as referencing the Dark Armor from BOTW, when it is really the [https://zelda.gamepedia.com/File:BotW_Dark_Series_Model.png Dark Tunic set]. [[User:Sherick|Sherick]] ([[User talk:Sherick|talk]]) 17:01, September 6, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Two different names for the same thing. There's even a link to the exact same armour set that you're talking about in the page already. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 18:40, September 6, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Mario's blue alt == | |||
Would you also consider Mario's blue alt the "Trans rights" alt? I've seen {{Sm|Dark Wizzy}} making tweets supporting trans rights and using that alt and the trans rights tag at majors. [[User:Zero Suit|Zero Suit]] ([[User talk:Zero Suit|talk]]) 08:18, September 20, 2020 (EDT) | |||
*I would, but that was almost certainly not the intention, especially given how much Nintendo want to distance themselves from previous Mario games' trans themes. --[[User:BubzieBobkat|What could possibly go wrong? - BubzieBobkat]] ([[User talk:BubzieBobkat|talk]]) 16:16, September 21, 2020 (EDT) | |||
I see [[User:Zero Suit|Zero Suit]] ([[User talk:Zero Suit|talk]]) 16:18, September 21, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:It's more likely coincidence since there are multiple alts that have a similar color scheme, anyway. (Wario and Min Min come to mind.) ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 17:01, September 21, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Dark Samus green alt == | |||
I think Dark Samus' green (second) alt is based on Weavil from Metroid Prime Hunters. [[Special:Contributions/24.108.205.51|24.108.205.51]] 23:30, October 5, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Also think Alt 4 (Red) might also be based on Trace, also from Hunters. | |||
::Forgot Kanden exists. Kanden seems more likely than Weavil. [[Special:Contributions/24.108.205.51|24.108.205.51]] 23:36, October 5, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Sheik's last alt == | |||
I'm almost certain that Sheik's eighth alt is a reference to Impa, as it looks a lot like her Hyrule Warriors design. This does make some sense, as she is also a prominent Sheikah. [[User:PedanticNerd|PedanticNerd]] ([[User talk:PedanticNerd|talk]]) 14:21, October 12, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Plant's yellow (head) alt == | |||
I think it's based off of World 7's transformed king in Super Mario Bros. 3. https://youtu.be/chjtSFJLlzU?t=1668 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:82.30.210.113|82.30.210.113]] ([[User talk:82.30.210.113|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.30.210.113|contribs]]) 19:21, October 21, 2020</small> | |||
: Also Luigi's White/Green alt also resembles his sprite in Super Mario Bros on the NES and his blue/green one resembles his appearance in the Super Mario Bros. Anime movie. Please add these. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:82.30.210.113|82.30.210.113]] ([[User talk:82.30.210.113|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.30.210.113|contribs]]) 20:05, January 11, 2021</small> | |||
: Maybe also Green Bowser to his look in the DiC cartoons. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:82.30.210.113|82.30.210.113]] ([[User talk:82.30.210.113|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.30.210.113|contribs]]) 20:55, January 11, 2021</small> | |||
: Luigi also wore white in NES Mario Bros. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:82.30.210.113|82.30.210.113]] ([[User talk:82.30.210.113|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.30.210.113|contribs]]) 23:21, January 11, 2021</small> | |||
: Min Min's black alt also reminds of her work outfit in her reveal trailer. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:82.30.210.113|82.30.210.113]] ([[User talk:82.30.210.113|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/82.30.210.113|contribs]]) 23:40, January 11, 2021</small> | |||
== Ganondorf's blue alt render == | |||
I noticed that the render used in the Smash Ultimate website for Ganondorf's blue costume has a darker blue skin tone than what his in-game model and render use. [[User:Cherry|Cherry]] ([[User talk:Cherry|talk]]) 05:43, November 16, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Getting renders? == | |||
Okay, this might be irrelevant to the page, but does anyone know how to actually get each individual costume render as their own image? I can't copy them from the website and the ones used for this page are too small. [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 07:06, November 30, 2020 (EST) | |||
:The Spriters Resource has what is used in-game, but for the highest resolution they'll be from the website. To get them from the site you want to go to that fighter's page, right-click > Inspect Element (or Ctrl+Shift+I)(for Chrome, other browsers may be slightly different), go to the "Sources" tab, top > www.smashbros.com > assets_v2 > img > fighter > Mario (or whoever). The desired images will start with "main", you may need to cycle through the alts on the page to load the others. Right-click > save/open in new tab > right-click > save image as... (Chrome is weird sometimes). On Chrome it may save as a "webp", but this can easily be changed to png with online converters and most image editing software can open them. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 07:50, November 30, 2020 (EST) | |||
== Negative reviews == | |||
Despite such great achievements of this game, many were not pleased about the fighters' palette swaps. Some might claim that Sora and Bandai-Namco did not perform enough rigorous research on sites and wikis to salvage some palettes that were used in past games, and that most of the fighters' palettes seem unfitting. Even so on, some stated that eight palettes for each fighter "ain't enough to tango" unless any volunteers could come up with some research to improve the colors for all. Fans and gamers stated that if the sprites and models in the past games were "recycled" and put in to SSBU for a far better look to ensure that the palette swaps would give a far better look, it would have helped boost the knowledge and basis of what came from in the distant past. Although there was research for colors in other past titles and themes from other characters, the developers were unaware of it, and not much came about by all means. Both developing companies reached a consensus to specifically limit all fighters to eight palettes due to "file size limits", but would have gotten more than eight for some fighters if more research was performed in the timeframe of development. [[User:VideoGamePhenom|VideoGamePhenom]] ([[User talk:VideoGamePhenom|talk]]) 15:45, January 13, 2021 (EST) | |||
:That's cool and all but [[SW:TALK|this ain't how talk pages are supposed to be used.]] [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="deepskyblue">Omegα Toαd,</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">the Toαd Wαrrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Omega Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(BUP)</font>]]''' 18:21, January 13, 2021 (EST) | |||
::And anyway, what do you mean, "reviews"? Who is reviewing these? Is there like, a ''Smash'' committee that reviews alternate colors? Why are you phrasing something that's clearly down to opinion like it's a passive voice Wikipedia section? What does "ain't enough to tango" even ''mean''? I don't... really understand what you're trying to accomplish here... ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 19:29, January 13, 2021 (EST) | |||