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 I am still highly uncertain whether we should have this sort of page. While it's currently pretty well-written and generally contains only the facts, having it around will attract more rumours and such than not having it (since making a page takes a lot more effort then editing one), and since the game isn't expected to have anything worth Nintendo telling us about until 2013 or something, the page'll just sit here attracting dust and garbage. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Le Grand Fromage 20:09, 5 October 2011 (EDT)
 :How about protecting it so only Autoconfirmed users can edit it? <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''FALCON...'' 20:17, 5 October 2011 (EDT)
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 ::This kind of discussion does not belong in a talk page. See [[SW:TALK]]. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  20:38, 18 January 2012 (EST)
 ::There quite clearly is going to be, but I'm not really getting my hopes up for it being Megaman...if you know what I mean. [[Special:Contributions/81.141.68.50|81.141.68.50]] 02:55, 21 May 2012 (EDT)
+:::Yeah, about that, this was back when I was only 11 years old, during which I was an idiot and WAY less mature than as of today. - [[User:Drilly Dilly|Drilly Dilly]] ([[User talk:Drilly Dilly|talk]]) 04:41, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
+*I always thought De blob and The Avengers were going to be in the series.
 == Game is now under development ==
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 :If Sakurai wanted to listen to people's ideas, he would have given out a form of contact for that purpose. Neither appears to be true, and chances are it would be in Japanese only anyway.
 :In addition, this is not [[SW:TALK|appropriate use]] of this talkpage. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Eggster 13:19, 27 February 2012 (EST)
+If the Mii was in the game, it would kinda suck. But zekrom is a pokemon they can put in the game.
 == April 2012 news update ==
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 [http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/39783/smash-bros-wii-u-may-not-feature-more-characters/?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=ONM-General-RSS 1] [http://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/219759606463864832/photo/1 2] [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:16, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
 :Put the former in the [[List of rumors]]. The latter is just a picture, so I'm not sure, although it supports that there may not be new characters.--<font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/ShupaRoeh]] 16:47, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
+::But it isn't a rumor, it's come straight from Sakurai's mouth. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:31, 3 July 2012 (EDT)
 The news story seems like a rehash; I'm almost certain I've seen some of those quotes before. The image seems okay to have (I'm personally going to try and figure out what the cut-off word at the bottom is). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Keymaster 17:16, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
+The picture is from the development team. Sakurai did say he was going to focus on the old characters first. [[User:Magiciandude|Magiciandude]] ([[User talk:Magiciandude|talk]]) 14:29, 3 July 2012 (EDT)
+== Old characters ==
+Hey, I found something interesting. In a Kid Icarus Uprising interview, Sakuri-san says that he plans on bringing old characters into the new game. Here's the exact wording-
+Adam Riley: You have mentioned how you like to breathe new life into forgotten franchises. Now that Kid Icarus has been completed, what other old classic would you like to look at? Ice Climbers, Star Tropics, MoleMania…or something non-Nintendo?
+Sakurai-san: I am planning on doing my best to ''bring old characters back in Smash Bros.'' From that perspective, I am probably in the most fortunate position in the world.
+Here's the article- http://www.cubed3.com/news/16920
+<span style="background-color:plum; border:2px dotted white;">[[User:Zelda101|<span style="color:blue;"><span style="font-family:Comic sans MS;">'''Zelda101'''</span></span>]] </span> 16:08, 7 July 2012 (EDT)
+== About the "less new characters" thing ==
+Sakurai never stated that they wouldn't have many new characters, he just said that there won't be many more characters than in Brawl. This could also mean that some veterans will be removed to make room for the new characters. I think that the article should be more clear about that.
+[[User:Dr_Robotnik|Dr_Robotnik]] ([[User talk:Dr_Robotnik|talk]]) 5:00, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+:The only thing is we don't exactly know what sakurai meant. I think they should just leave the page as it is until more info is given. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  18:27, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+::I think it should be changed to something more neutral since we don't know for sure, something like "Sakurai has stated that the game might not feature a larger number of characters than Brawl."[[User:Dr_Robotnik|Dr_Robotnik]] ([[User talk:Dr_Robotnik|talk]]) 5:00, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+That's a good idea except neither of us can edit this page. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  09:55, 11 July 2012 (EDT)
+I thought the game with the most characters was Melee.
+== Master Hand ==
+There is a giant hand in the whiteboard drawing. This is Master Hand. I think an administrator should list it under the list of things that appear in the drawing. Also, I thought the reference to this game in The Simpsons was going to be mentioned under trivia? <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  18:32, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+:Looking at it again it might just be DK's hand. But the Simpsons thing should be mentioned I think. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  18:41, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+::I dont see any reference to the simpsons. <font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/ShupaRoeh]] 19:16, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+:::I don't think the Simpsons have any relevance to SSB4. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|You can call me]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Pollyanna]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 19:21, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+::::Scroll up to the 'A Parody' section. Yes, this should be mentioned. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 19:30, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+:::::So that means that they made there own name of Super Smash Bros. 4 right. Maybe that could be for trivia. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|You can call me]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Pollyanna]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 22:36, 10 July 2012 (EDT)
+:::::: Master Hand is where the Pikmin, Fox, and Marth is at. As for the Simpsons thing, the only place it would go to would probably be an article for Super Smash Bros. in popular culture. [[User:Magiciandude|Magiciandude]] ([[User talk:Magiciandude|talk]]) 01:31, 18 July 2012 (EDT)
+== Project Sora Dissolved ==
+This might be worth mentioning in the article. Project Sora was dissolved on June 30, and their website has been updated stating this. Here's a link to a news post at Nintendo Everything. [http://nintendoeverything.com/93721/sakurais-project-sora-studio-to-be-dissolved/]. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 03:26, 11 July 2012 (EDT)
+:Exactly how notable would it be in two years time that a company was ''not'' involved in the producion of the game? Not very. The details are already on [[Sora]], that will suffice. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 07:23, 11 July 2012 (EDT)
+::Ok, I just wasn't completely sure. Because on the Sora page it said that Project Sora should be expected to make Smash Bros. 4, so I was just making sure whether or not this would be relevant here. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 14:20, 11 July 2012 (EDT)
+== Rumors section outdated ==
+That rumor was disproven by two things, both as soon as it started
+# Sakurai's signature is a blatant forgery
+# Sakurai confirmed work on Smash hadn't started shortly after this.
+--[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] ([[User talk:Deuxhero|talk]]) 17:16, 21 July 2012 (EDT)
+:We know that it was fake, we just show it because it was popular. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:54, 21 July 2012 (EDT)
+== Need staff ==
+I found something interesting in this article http://andriasang.com/comw97/iwata_asks_smash_bros/
+Scroll towards the end, it says this-
+''In a closing message in the Iwata Asks column, Sakurai threatened (or possibly joked) that if they can't find appropriate staff, he'll either switch to development on just one platform, or will use a small staff and take five years to make the project.''
+Think we should add it?
+[[User:Zelda101|&#123;&#123;subst:User:Zelda101/sig&#125;&#125;]] ([[User talk:Zelda101|talk]]) 16:13, 26 July 2012 (EDT)
+YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O MAY GAWD!!!!!!!!
+== August 2012 updated ==
+[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/07/masahiro-sakurai-talks-super-smash-bros-4 ]
+Anything worth mentioning in the article? [[User:Magiciandude|Magiciandude]] ([[User talk:Magiciandude|talk]]) 20:59, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
+:Ehhhh...nothing really stands out to me as must-have info. I'm sure someone will see something they think is needed though. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Zesty 21:14, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
+I think I found something worth noting in the article-
+. Sakuri mentoins something about no 3D- ''The game system itself is complete, so we don’t want to make it 3D or introduce complicated controls just for the sake of it,'' I'm not sure if he was referring to the 3DS or the WiiU though
+. Something about some Tekken characters(?)
+. A release date sometime in 2012
+[[User:Zelda101|&#123;&#123;subst:User:Zelda101/sig&#125;&#125;]] ([[User talk:Zelda101|talk]]) 16:43, 27 August 2012 (EDT)
+:A release date in 2012? Don't give me chortles. As for 3D, I expect Sakurai is referring to the 3DS' stereoscopic effect, and that he merely doesn't want to do anything right now, and it will be added at a later stage. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 03:14, 28 August 2012 (EDT)
+==that thing in the picture==
+there is something placed between mario & DK (under the heart container) in the [http://www.ssbwiki.com/File:SSB4_whiteboard.jpg whiteboard photo]. can someone tell me what it is? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:115.242.181.221|115.242.181.221]] ([[User talk:115.242.181.221|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/115.242.181.221|contribs]]) 11:34, 10 August 2012</small>
+:It's a Mr Saturn. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 09:02, 10 August 2012 (EDT)
+::I see now, thanks!<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:101.62.12.229|101.62.12.229]] ([[User talk:101.62.12.229|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/101.62.12.229|contribs]]) 17:50, 2012 August 10</small>
+==Protected Page==
+Why is this a protected page??? [[User:The Awesome|<font color="Blue">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Awesome|<font color="Blue">'''''Awesome'''''</font>]]  16:00, 7 September 2012 (EDT)
+:To prevent users from adding speculation. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  16:23, 7 September 2012 (EDT)
+:To elaborate, in the game's current stage of development, the page is going to be too prone to users adding speculation, as well as misinterpreting things Sakurai says or add irrelevant things he may state in an interview. Plus there's the fact there is really no real information on the game yet outside some predevelopment details. Once we get to game elements and trailers being revealed, I would probably support unprotecting this for users. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:36, 7 September 2012 (EDT)
+== More characters!!!!!!!!!!! ==
+I'm just saying but, I hope they put something like Team Fortress 2 or a secret message about the next game or maybe something like breaking the fourth wall. That would be cool.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Sandvich9|Sandvich9]] ([[User talk:Sandvich9|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sandvich9|contribs]]) 5:59, 11 September 2012 (EDT)</small>
+:[[SW:TALK|You need to use talk pages more effeciently (if that's how you spell it)]]. Also, TF2 '''SUCKS'''. [[User:Bandit|<font style='font-family:myriad pro;font-size:13pt;color:hsl(111.5,100%,50%)'>Bandit</font>]] 07:26, 11 September 2012 (EDT)
+== Wat ==
+If this game is going to be called Super Smash Bros. Universe, shouldn't there be more characters?<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Sandvich9|Sandvich9]] ([[User talk:Sandvich9|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sandvich9|contribs]]) 6:48, 11 September 2012 (EDT)</small>
+:[[SW:TALK|Talk pages. You're doing it wrong.]] Also, there's no evidence it's going to be called Super Smash Bros. Universe. [[User:Bandit|<font style='font-family:myriad pro;font-size:13pt;color:hsl(111.5,100%,50%)'>Bandit</font>]] 07:26, 11 September 2012 (EDT)
+Why are you so pissed Bandit? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Sandvich9|Sandvich9]] ([[User talk:Sandvich9|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sandvich9|contribs]]) 17:05, 2012 September 12</small>
+:He's not pissed, he's pointing out a guideline. Completely and utterly different.
+:Also, sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.
+:--- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 18:04, 12 September 2012 (EDT)
+== Idea ==
+:51, 12 September 2012 (EDT)[[User:Sandvich9|Sandvich9]] ([[User talk:Sandvich9|talk]])I have a feeling that animated Pac-Man, Mappy, Gil, and that guy from Dig-Dug 2 are going to be in the game because Bandai Namco is helping to produce the game.
+:Talk pages are not a place to post you opinions. Also, your signature goes after your post. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Bomb]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 18:07, 12 September 2012 (EDT)
+== Weird ==
+On the whiteboard image it looks like Donkey Kong is falling in love with a Heart container. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Sandvich9|Sandvich9]] ([[User talk:Sandvich9|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sandvich9|contribs]]) 07:53, 2012 September 13</small>