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Fox's purple costume is clearly Wolf.[[User:SpizzySPAM|SpizzySPAM]] ([[User talk:SpizzySPAM|talk]]) 02:30, 29 December 2015 (EST)SpizzySPAM | Fox's purple costume is clearly Wolf.[[User:SpizzySPAM|SpizzySPAM]] ([[User talk:SpizzySPAM|talk]]) 02:30, 29 December 2015 (EST)SpizzySPAM | ||
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==Luigi== | ==Luigi== | ||
Can someone fix Luigi on this page? I don't know how. [[User:Sir Jolteon|Sir Jolteon]] ([[User talk:Sir Jolteon|talk]]) 16:57, 4 February 2016 (EST) | Can someone fix Luigi on this page? I don't know how. [[User:Sir Jolteon|Sir Jolteon]] ([[User talk:Sir Jolteon|talk]]) 16:57, 4 February 2016 (EST) | ||
:Yeah, for some reason the code's not working. I tried fixing it but I don't know what the problem is either. | :Yeah, for some reason the code's not working. I tried fixing it but I don't know what the problem is either. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] ([[User talk:Disaster Flare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Disaster Flare|contribs]]) 22:00, 4 February 2016 (EDT)</small> | ||
:: remember to sign your comments [[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' EZMONEY!! 17:09, 4 February 2016 (EST) | :: remember to sign your comments [[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' EZMONEY!! 17:09, 4 February 2016 (EST) | ||
:::I coulda swore I did...ah well. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:10, 4 February 2016 (EST) | :::I coulda swore I did...ah well. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:10, 4 February 2016 (EST) | ||
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==Corrin Alts.== | ==Corrin Alts.== | ||
The wiki says that Corrin's 6th alt is not related to anything but with the alt. being female, having purple-ish hair, and darker clothing, I feel it somehow associates with Camilla. With Camilla having BLACK clothing, that kinda voids it......but the correlation(or should I say corrin-ation) is real to me! | The wiki says that Corrin's 6th alt is not related to anything but with the alt. being female, having purple-ish hair, and darker clothing, I feel it somehow associates with Camilla. With Camilla having BLACK clothing, that kinda voids it......but the correlation(or should I say corrin-ation) is real to me! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Pokerick|Pokerick]] ([[User talk:Pokerick|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pokerick|contribs]]) 01:07, April 17, 2016</small> | ||
Nah. Nice pun though haha. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 03:45, 17 April 2016 (EDT) | Nah. Nice pun though haha. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 03:45, 17 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
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Upon further inspection, the entire instruction booklet is in black/white/gray/red. As follows all the character artwork. So, sure, the entire thing is in black/white/gray/red. BUT what I do not understand is how this resembles her green outfit? I don't see a connection. Unless someone can explain it to me. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 03:56, 10 August 2016 (EDT) | Upon further inspection, the entire instruction booklet is in black/white/gray/red. As follows all the character artwork. So, sure, the entire thing is in black/white/gray/red. BUT what I do not understand is how this resembles her green outfit? I don't see a connection. Unless someone can explain it to me. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 03:56, 10 August 2016 (EDT) | ||
== Beastman == | |||
So C. Falcon's green costume's colors resemble that of Beastman's in F-Zero GX, most notably, the most prominent colors in the outfit, with them being green and yellow. Now, just because there is a red scarf does not mean that those colors are not greatly similar to Beastman's; it just means that he's sporting colors very similar to Beastman's, with a red scarf. Now, we see instances where there are outfits that very likely or very clearly have some sort of basis to them, but have some minor changes. For example, Mario's Wario outfit has a green "M" instead of a blue "M." Link's Goron and Pipit/Fairy Tears outfit have his sporting a red and yellow shield, respectively, even though his shield doesn't change colors in the Zelda series. Or Bowser's blue costume, in which it is stated in the game that it is based on the imposter Bowser, who has blue arms instead of tan. I'd say that minor things like this don't take away from things bearing resemblance. | |||
And that leads to another point. When something is said to resemble something, that does not mean it matches something or is based on something, but it could. For example: I could say that this guitar part of a song resembles this guitar part in another song. Does that mean it is based on it? Well, only the writers of the song know. Maybe I could say that the guitar tone in "Shut Up and Dance" sounds like that of U2's. Does that mean that they are the same tone? I don't know, maybe some differences. Does that mean its guitar tone is based on a certain song? Not necessarily, but it's likely it was inspired by one, or the whole band. Point is, resembling doesn't mean match, or based on, and I think it's very acceptable to point out likely resemblances here (as per what has stood on this page thus far). Likely doesn't mean definitely, but something that seems likely could be definitely, but it could be unknown to at least a certain group of people. Anywho, I think it's worthy to note the similarities between C. Falcon's green and Beastman's GX outfits' colors, as they are from the same game series and there is likely some inspiration taken there. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 23:19, 11 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Not everything has to be inspired by something. Saying that something is "likely inspired by X" is also pushing towards speculation, although whether or not it's acceptable in this case is debatable. <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 01:15, 12 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Dude I know that not everything has to be inspired by something. You know you got people saying this solid color makes this resemble this and that's pretty out there. Then there are some things that have more colors, more specificity, and if they resemble something specific with those colors, then hey they resemble it. Doesn't mean inspiration. There can be sole resemblance, or resemblance with possible inspiration, or direct inspiration (when it says "based on"). And most the shit here is pretty damn speculative in the first place. As for me I'm just kinda baffled that of all things to write off as not having any resemblance whatsoever to anything it was the green C. Falcon costume? [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 02:36, 12 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::I too do not think that Falcon's green is inspired by beastman. Also, because the article already contains speculative claims and whatever does not mean we need to add to it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 03:50, 12 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::Cool BUT even if you do not think there is inspiration, there is resemblance. And noting resemblance ain't inherently speculative. Also, Beastman's mask does have red eyes. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 15:26, 12 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::::If you want to argue about resemblance or whatever, get a community vote. It's getting clear that the people currently involved are entrenched in their respective subjective opinions. <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 16:56, 12 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::::Sure thing. I vote '''yes'''. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 17:00, 12 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
==Ganondorf's pale color== | |||
I'm pretty sure the color is based on [http://zeldawiki.org/images/6/6c/ALBW_Yuga.png Yuga]. I can't see the rest of the costume, but the hair and the skin tone match up. Toon Link also has a color that matches up with ALBW Link (moreso than ALTTP Link) so could that be evidence towards Dorf's color being based on Yuga? EDIT: On second thought, it might not be; the pants and such are still different, and considering Marth's Roy color, if they wanted to get the details, they would have gotten them. Not sure, then? [[User:KuroKagami|KuroKagami]] ([[User talk:KuroKagami|talk]]) 19:34, 27 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Dead link in Bowser section == | |||
The link to the screenshot of the "imposter Bowser" is dead due to the file on Mario Wiki having been moved. This is the location of the new file - http://www.mariowiki.com/File:SMBLL_World_D-4_Bowser_Imposter.png. [[Special:Contributions/76.67.175.82|76.67.175.82]] 05:28, 28 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Fox's grey coloration == | |||
Could it possibly be based on Wolf's design from Brawl? The fur coloration is almost exactly the same, but the clothing color is different. [[Special:Contributions/68.98.147.130|68.98.147.130]] 22:02, 29 August 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Could the green Charizard be based off the green Gameboy screen? If not Pokemon Green? == | |||
[https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAADAAB2V0e7w9ihSw An example of the green Gameboy screen (not my post though)] | |||
Or, if not that, then maybe it's based on what it looks like in Pokemon Green. (Unfortunately, it's Japanese only, so I can't compare it). Thoughts? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 23:06, 7 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
:You're reaching. <span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#d50">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSigHalloween.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#d50">King</span>]]</span> 23:07, 7 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
::I'm what? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 02:41, 8 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::Dedede has a Gameboy colour. It's extremely monochromatic and considered by the game to be black. Charizard is just green. Not everything has to be a reference to something. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Steppin' 10:17, 8 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::Okay, I just looked at it on the Gameboy Dream Land stage, and am no longer convinced. I'd still like to know about Pokemon Green though (unfortunately, I don't have it). Oh well. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 12:16, 8 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::::[[bulbapedia::File:Spr 1g 006.png|*ahem*]] [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 13:39, 8 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::::Okay, just so we're clear, in the American Pokemon Red & Blue, the screens were actually Red & White or Blue & White respectively (but not the 3DS's VC versions). I assume the same applies with the Japanese Pokemon Green. The Charizard in those pics are all orange. (Unless I'm supposed to be looking at Venusaur?) [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 13:46, 8 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
I couldn't find too many examples, but [https://youtu.be/XV6ZBzfCfrA?t=69 this should do.] [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 13:57, 8 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Yeah you're looking for something that isn't there. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 18:15, 8 September 2016 (EDT) | |||
==Potential Marth, Roy, Ike and Robin colour palettes== | |||
In most Fire Emblem games, the ally colour is actually yellow. All FE characters save for Lucina and Corrin have a Yellow coloured alt, which is the ally colour in most FE games. My thoughts are the final Roy alt, sixth Robin alt, fourth Marth alt and the second Ike alt all have inspirations from this Yellow. | |||
Sources: http://imgur.com/a/WwLtX and http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Ally_Units | |||
[[User:Sachi Shimazi|Sachi Shimazi]]([[User talk:Sachi Shimazi|talk]]) 12:15pm, 7 December 2016 (AEDT) | |||
:All ''Fire Emblem'' games I've seen and played have had green allied units. I'm not sure which games have yellow ones. If ''Radiant Dawn'' is the exception to the rule, then Roy's yellow color would not be based off of such yellow allied units because ''Melee'' came out before ''Radiant Dawn''. And Marth's yellow costume seems to be based off of Roy's. Ike's and Robin's yellow colors already seem to be based off of characters. | |||
:On the topic of ''Fire Emblem'' alt costumes though, I've been convinced since Corrin was released that the green male palette swap is based off of [http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Kaze Kaze]. It's the same shade of green for the hair and armor and the same shade of maroon for the cape. Not to mention the off-yellow accent colors are pretty similar. For some reason, that edit was undone. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 22:02, 6 December 2016 (EST) | |||
== DK's purple/blue alt == | |||
I've noticed that [http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/ssb/images/0/03/Donkey_Kong_Pallette_04.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/185?cb=20151022230725 Donkey Kong's purple/blue alt] slightly resembles [http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/vinesauce/images/7/7d/Bonzibuddy.png/revision/latest?cb=20160811113249 this]. Anyone else find this funny? | |||
--[[User:KingDDD99|KingDDD99]] ([[User talk:KingDDD99|talk]]) 22:24, 23 February 2017 (EST)KingDDD99 | |||
:This is an inappropriate usage of talk pages. Please see [[SW:TALK|here]] for more info. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:HotPink; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareValentineSig.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 22:38, 23 February 2017 (EST) | |||
== Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong palette connection == | |||
http://68.media.tumblr.com/bd7ca3be845fa1d576c1a60a03951599/tumblr_inline_ndomwrf58Z1t1fa49.jpg | |||
[[User:Lucoshi|Lucoshi]] ([[User talk:Lucoshi|talk]]) 11:28, 5 March 2017 (EST) | |||
==Robin's orange costume link== | |||
This is going to sound stupid, but the name of the character who looks like Robin's orange costume is called Eyvel, not Evayle. Even the link links to a page called "Eyvel". --[[User:Unnamedgoon|Unnamedgoon]] ([[User talk:Unnamedgoon|talk]]) 22:44, 31 May 2017 (EDT) | |||
== Bowser's grey alternate == | |||
I just found this resemblance between Bowser's grey alternate and this Japanese boxart for the original Super Mario Bros. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Nourman|Nourman]] ([[User talk:Nourman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nourman|contribs]]) 17:04, 9 April 2018</small> | |||
https://www.mariowiki.com/images/f/f9/Super_Mario_Bros_JP_cover.jpg https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/a/a4/Bowser_Palette_%28SSB4%29.png | |||
:I, quite frankly, see little resemblance. The hair, shell, spikes, and bracelets are all a different color than the gray one in Smash; the only ''real'' resemblance is the face color. Also, if you wouldn't mind, [[SW:SIGN|please sign your comments correctly in the future]]. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:06, 9 April 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Little Mac's orange alt color == | |||
Though I can agree on the fact that little mac's orange alt color could be from the multiplayer mode, his tank top does not turn orange, so I believe his shorts are supposed to represent Mr.Sandman's contender mode shorts from the 2009 release. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Apathyismymiddlename|Apathyismymiddlename]] ([[User talk:Apathyismymiddlename|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Apathyismymiddlename|contribs]]) 15:24, 15 April 2018 (EDT)</small> | |||
:The colors are swapped, because his shorts in Smash turn the color his shirt does in Punch-Out!!. That said, I think you might be on to something about Mr. Sandman. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 16:02, 15 April 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Mario's Black-and-white Costume & Superfluous Info == | |||
I think this may have been specified in the past, but I strongly believe that Mario's black-and-white costume swap is the same swap based on Foreman Spike from the previous Smash entries. At first glance it may seem very different from Spike's sprite from ''Wrecking Crew'', the palette has become gradually more monochromatic with each ''Smash Bros.'' entry. I wanted to bring this up here on the Talk page first because I wanted to specify on the article page that the palette was: "Originally based on {{s|mariowiki|Foreman Spike}} from ''{{s|mariowiki|Wrecking Crew}}'', though the palette has become more monochromatic with each new ''Smash'' title." I'm worried other users would disagree with my assertion and delete the information. Are there any strong opinions on the subject here? [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 01:16, 19 April 2018 (EDT) | |||
:It seems pretty obvious to me that it is indeed based on Foreman Spike. Looks like it's evolved from Brown to Black, with each iteration making it more darker. Also, just a heads up, references shouldn't be on talk pages. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 02:33, 19 April 2018 (EDT) | |||
::Oops, that was an oversight. But I'm glad to hear you agree with me. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 09:49, 19 April 2018 (EDT) | |||
Ah, there is another topic I wanted to bring up. The descriptions for Mario's yellow and purple costume swaps mention that the same color arrangement was possible in ''A Thousand-Year Door''. This is a neat piece of trivia, but is this really relevant? The Wario-inspired yellow costume has appeared in every ''Smash'' game, two of which predate ''A Thousand-Year Door'' by several years, leading me to think that it's really just a coincidence that the same color combination occurs in the ''ATYD''. Similarly, I think the Waluigi-inspired purple swap was mainly - if not entirely - influenced by the fact that Mario already has a Wario-based swap, rather than ''ATYD''. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 10:09, 19 April 2018 (EDT) | |||
:Yes, it is likely coincidental. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: blue;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Earthling Warrior'''</span>]] 10:12, 19 April 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Sheik's colors == | |||
Sheik's "pink" costume is very clearly not pink; it's purple. However, her OoT outfit is currently defined as "purple", despite being much bluer than it is purple. I recommend either a change to make her default costume be labeled "default" (a la Bowser, Corrin, Duck Hunt, etc.), her OoT outfit labeled "blue", and her purple costume labeled "purple"; or, we could keep her default outfit as blue and call her OoT outfit "indigo" or "navy". | |||
I would make one of these changes myself -- and even attempted to -- but due to the formatting, it would require the names of the head icons to be changed, and I can't move the "SheikHeadPinkSSB4-U.png" file to "SheikHeadPurpleSSB4-U.png" because the current "SheikHeadPurpleSSB4-U" file would still have a redirect. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 10:29, 15 May 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Greninja Alt Inspirations == | |||
Greninja's Alt 4 is based on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_6x_658_s.png its shiny coloration], where it is black. [[Special:Contributions/70.53.110.81|70.53.110.81]] 00:04, 19 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
:While this has been claimed in the past, almost nothing is shared between the two. Shiny Greninja's body is almost entirely black with the exception of its red tongue and blue webbing. Greninja's black alt in Smash retains the beige underbelly, has an orange tongue, and brown webbing. The only parts of its body that are black aren't even the same shade as its shiny form. There's just too much deviation to believe that that alt is an intentional homepage to Shiny Greninja. It looks more like [https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Spr_5b_535_s.png Shiny Tympole] than anything else, honestly. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 00:18, 19 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Mega Charizard in Find Mii == | |||
Is Mega Charizard X always treated as black in Find Mii? He's the only character transformation who doesn't have that information listed in this article. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 12:45, 26 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
:Megazard X is a different kind of transformation Final Smash, so he doesn't qualify under the "X is always treated as Y in Find Mii" treatment. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 13:11, 26 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
::I don't see why we can't specify this for Charizard too. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 13:21, 26 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
:::I think Aiden was alluding to the fact that the game does not internally equate Mega Charizard X to the color black. We didn't just make up those attributes: they manifest on the Find Mii stage. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 16:00, 26 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
::What exactly makes it different from Mega Lucario? [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 16:29, 26 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
:::It's the type of transformation: Super Sonic, Megazard X, and Super Dragon are different than Mega Lucario, Wario-Man, and Giga Bowser/Mac, in that the former is restricted in attacks, and is essentially a "power up"; the latter is an entirely different character (so to speak), so it is recognized as such. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 02:00, 30 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
::::This is correct. Mega Charizard X is just a prop that Charizard dresses up as, whereas Mega Lucario is an entirely separate character with its own defined attributes. Generally speaking, you can tell the difference because the latter has an entire moveset, whereas the former can only do a few unique things. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Da Bomb 08:44, 30 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Mii Fighter Costumes == | |||
I'm proposing that we make an entirely separate page for the Mii Fighter Alternate Costumes and leave a redirect here. My reasoning is: | |||
*It would make this page more consistent as a whole. | |||
*We could show different color variations variants without extending this page. | |||
*We could showcase male/female variants with larger pictures where one can actually see the difference. | |||
*We could list the official costume descriptions in the DLC shop and further elaborate on the basis for vanilla game costumes. | |||
Thoughts? [[User:AmoongussForLife|<span style="color:green">AmoongussForLife</span>]] [[File:AmoongussForLife's_signature.png]][[User_talk:AmoongussForLife|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]] 09:59, 6 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
: '''Support'''. The Mii Fighters already take up more space than any other characters do, and I think it would be important to show gender/color, and larger picture would make it much easier to view, especially for nearsighted people (like me). [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 11:17, 30 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 | |||
==The Dog== | |||
# Dalmatians do legitimately have floppy ears. I don’t know why anyone would suggest otherwise. However, so do Rottweilers. I think the issue is that the Rottweiler does not have a body-shape very compatible to the Duck Hunt dog. It is more likely that a hound-like dog would be the source of inspiration. The same with the Pit Bull for the blue alt. (color #3). | |||
# In addition, I don’t believe either of these breeds are popular in Japan. Rottweilers and Pit Bulls are illegal in several areas of Japan and are consequently uncommon. | |||
# That being said, I do not it can be argued that the Duck Hunt black alt. (color #2) is based on a Rottweiler or Coonhound because most of these dogs have black-and-tan coats. The alt has a tricolor coat, and while both Rottweilers and Coonhounds can exhibit this coat pattern, so do many, many other dogs and it is typically not associated with them. I see little reason to think the alt could arguably be based on any specific breed. There are just too many hound-like dog breeds with that type of coat. The most realistic and conservative comment to make is that the dog has a tricolored coat pattern. I have contacted the Japan Kennel Club for records on hunting dog registered in 2013 to learn if there’s a popular breed of hunting dog associated with the tricolored pattern that could be the source of inspiration, but they have not gotten back to me yet. Until we do, I do not think we could argue the black alt looks like any specific alt. | |||
# I think we should be more conservative in general with the breeds suggested. Chocolate labs are monotone and probably would not have a white muzzle like in the 4th alt. There’s a similar issue with the yellow 7th alt., which supposedly looks like a Golden Retriever despite having brown sock and ear patterns. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 15:55, 19 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
==Luigi's 2nd Color== | |||
To me, this very much resembles the Orange Luigi from Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon's ScareScraper.I think it was the P3 Luigi. But I think this makes more sense then saying it looks like boxart of Mario with a different colored hat. I'd say that's a much larger leap than saying it looks like an alternate Luigi from ScareScraper. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 10:20, 30 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 | |||
:Orange Luigi wears: An orange hat, orange overalls, and a green shirt. The 2nd color has him wearing: An orange hat, blue overalls, and a orange shirt. Only one of those matches. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 10:52, 30 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
:: I suppose you are right. And while I admit I was wrong, I still think it's a rather large leap to compare it to boxart of Mario that doesn't even have the same colors. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 11:13, 30 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 | |||