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Any system necessarily makes certain compromises and has its own subjective conclusions about which things to prioritize, especially since I've aimed to make a system that works equally across all Smash games, not just the newest one. I've tried to lay out my decision-making process to be as clear and straightforward as possible and have tried to stick to one listing order to keep things consistent. I mainly have tried not to "put my foot down" or be otherwise in-your-face if others disagreed, but certain decisions (such as putting [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:SSBU_character_table&diff=prev&oldid=1565721 Dedede before Meta Knight]) make me feel like I need to step in because they are unambiguously not how Smash has basically ever done this - and thus, it is pretty clearly not how we should do things, regardless of my own personal preferences. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:49, April 14, 2021 (EDT) | Any system necessarily makes certain compromises and has its own subjective conclusions about which things to prioritize, especially since I've aimed to make a system that works equally across all Smash games, not just the newest one. I've tried to lay out my decision-making process to be as clear and straightforward as possible and have tried to stick to one listing order to keep things consistent. I mainly have tried not to "put my foot down" or be otherwise in-your-face if others disagreed, but certain decisions (such as putting [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:SSBU_character_table&diff=prev&oldid=1565721 Dedede before Meta Knight]) make me feel like I need to step in because they are unambiguously not how Smash has basically ever done this - and thus, it is pretty clearly not how we should do things, regardless of my own personal preferences. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:49, April 14, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:With Dedede before Meta Knight, I thought you were going for more of a character debut order within their games for characters who debuted in the same Smash game (i.e. Zelda before Sheik, Robin before Lucina, and Punch-Out!! before Wii Fit). Plus, there was [[:File:SSBWiiU Character Select.jpg|Smash 4's character select screen]] which had King Dedede placed before Meta Knight, which is what I thought you were going for with the original order. Ordering by development is difficult to do as well as we either don't know when each fighter was added or it contradicts reveal or in-game orders, like how Bowser is placed before Peach in the instance slots, or how Wario is placed before Meta Knight within the instance slots. Reveals are a more common way of knowing when each fighter becomes playable, as there are times where characters make a major appearance somewhere despite not being playable, like how characters like Ridley and Wolf appear in Melee's opening (and the opening was very likely made before Ganondorf was even added to the game). With an official ordering system, it prevents confusion with ordering, even if there are contradictions in previous games. [[User:Diddy Kongstar|Diddy Kongstar]] ([[User talk:Diddy Kongstar|talk]]) 13:30, April 14, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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