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== Huh ==
== Huh ==
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Please stop undoing my edits without a good reason. {{unsigned|69.113.179.47|}}
Please stop undoing my edits without a good reason. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.113.179.47|69.113.179.47]] ([[User talk:69.113.179.47|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.113.179.47|contribs]]) </small>
:You have been warned multiple times not to violate policy and have ignored all of these warnings. The edit you made violates [[SW:CONSENSUS]], and therefore cannot be permitted. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:25, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
:You have been warned multiple times not to violate policy and have ignored all of these warnings. The edit you made violates [[SW:CONSENSUS]], and therefore cannot be permitted. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:25, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
You ignored my statement that I don't have time to read the stuff. {{unsigned|69.113.179.47|}}
You ignored my statement that I don't have time to read the stuff. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.113.179.47|69.113.179.47]] ([[User talk:69.113.179.47|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.113.179.47|contribs]]) </small>
:That is NOT an excuse. If you have time to edit pages you have time to read the policies. If you really do not have enough time to read over policies, particularly the ones that it has been pointed out that you are in violation of, then you should not be editing here. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:30, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
:That is NOT an excuse. If you have time to edit pages you have time to read the policies. If you really do not have enough time to read over policies, particularly the ones that it has been pointed out that you are in violation of, then you should not be editing here. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:30, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
:::It's not my fault that the thing is too long. If you want me to read them, I humbly request you make them shorter.{{unsigned|69.113.179.47|}}
:::It's not my fault that the thing is too long. If you want me to read them, I humbly request you make them shorter.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.113.179.47|69.113.179.47]] ([[User talk:69.113.179.47|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.113.179.47|contribs]]) </small>


Do you have any idea how hurtful you're being?!{{unsigned|69.113.179.47|}}
Do you have any idea how hurtful you're being?!<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.113.179.47|69.113.179.47]] ([[User talk:69.113.179.47|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.113.179.47|contribs]]) </small>
:I'm sorry if the idea of rules upsets you, but that doesn't make you exempt from them. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:44, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
:I'm sorry if the idea of rules upsets you, but that doesn't make you exempt from them. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:44, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
And you aren't breaking a rule? You're harassing me!{{unsigned|69.113.179.47|}}
And you aren't breaking a rule? You're harassing me!<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.113.179.47|69.113.179.47]] ([[User talk:69.113.179.47|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.113.179.47|contribs]]) </small>
:Enforcing policy and warning you against breaking them is not harassment. And for the record, if you don't stop edit warring on that page, you will most likely be blocked. If you do not want that to happen, I suggest you stop. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:47, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
:Enforcing policy and warning you against breaking them is not harassment. And for the record, if you don't stop edit warring on that page, you will most likely be blocked. If you do not want that to happen, I suggest you stop. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:47, 25 August 2018 (EDT)
ALso you're doing the same thing I am.{{unsigned|69.113.179.47|}}
ALso you're doing the same thing I am.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.113.179.47|69.113.179.47]] ([[User talk:69.113.179.47|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.113.179.47|contribs]]) </small>
What do you mean by blocked?
What do you mean by blocked?


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Since [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Hitstun&diff=1188331&oldid=1188030 your edit summary here] got cut off, what were you going to say? [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 11:45, 13 February 2019 (EST)
Since [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Hitstun&diff=1188331&oldid=1188030 your edit summary here] got cut off, what were you going to say? [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 11:45, 13 February 2019 (EST)
:Yes, I was going to say that Link would actually have a down tilt -> forward air kill confirm if hitstun behaved normally, as his Fair is a mere 2 frames too slow at percent ranges where he can land it after dtilt out of a full-hop. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 11:48, 13 February 2019 (EST)
::Oh. Well, what you changed in the hitstun page is true for the most part, but that specific example doesn't really work. Link's dtilt and fair [[Link (SSBU)#Changes from Super Smash Bros. 4|were both nerfed in frame data]], so they're the true culprits here; if they were unchanged from ''SSB4'', that kill confirm would work even with the altered hitstun, since you would have 5 more frames of advantage. Just pointing that out. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 13:15, 13 February 2019 (EST)
:::No, that's a factor, but so is the reduced hitstun. Were hitstun kept the same the only way in which this kill confirm wouldn't work would have been if the nerf to the frame data of those moves was completely unreasonable. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 13:21, 13 February 2019 (EST)
== I'm not going to rail you too hard on this but ==
[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Hitstun_canceling&curid=84799&diff=1195838&oldid=1195837 this] should not have been a use of rollback, as it was in good faith and an edit summary is necessary. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 12:01, 26 February 2019 (EST)
:Yeah, sorry about that. I quickly hit it assuming it was the same guy who tried that before and was told why he was wrong for doing so, but when I checked it turned out to be a different user. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:03, 26 February 2019 (EST)
::No big deal, have a great day! <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 12:06, 26 February 2019 (EST)
== Can you help me with something? ==
I can't play Brawl atm, and I remembered you like testing stuff; can you check what happens if you try hitting a character with a paralyzing move more than once before they land (or grab a ledge)? Because in Smash 4, the move in such case only damages them (no knockback or paralysis), but in Ultimate it was changed so it also deals knockback (still without paralysis). Does any of the two happen, or something different altogether? [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 14:21, 9 March 2019 (EST)
:Ah...I actually don't have my Wii with me right now (I left it at my mum's house because I didn't think I'd need it). Sorry... ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 14:31, 9 March 2019 (EST)
::Oh okay. Thanks either way. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 14:34, 9 March 2019 (EST)