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 :::Alright. Here's the link to my revision: https://www.ssbwiki.com/User:Autismo555[[User:Autismo555|Autismo555]] ([[User talk:Autismo555|talk]]) 21:39, February 21, 2021 (EST)
 ::::If you want to link to a specific version you can go to history, click the top revision, in the URL there will be "oldid=###", then you can copy and paste the numbers into this: <nowiki>[[Special:Diff/###]]</nowiki>. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:44, February 21, 2021 (EST)
+:It seems to me that Miles and I aren't on the same page at all when it comes to what a wiki should look like, I more or less disagree with all of his arguments against the first part of the proposition, here is why:
+:*Splitting up the information is not a problem here, when do a random user will ever have the need to compare a spirit stats to its origin game? In fact, having everything stuffed in the same array is what make things harder to check. This is not a database where the data structuration has to be optimized, this is a web page, it need to be easy on the eyes. Having a separation between gameplay data and lore data is actually pre-filtering informations by relevancy for different user archetypes.
+:*I don't know in which way using the same spirit image three times on one page is heavily excessive, but it's also user friendly: it allows people to find what they're looking for faster. Repeating patterns are good UI design. This is quite telling of a big problem on this wiki: Contributors here tend to forget that the whole point of a wiki is to make informations accessible, they often think about the informations itself, but rarely they do think about its accessibility. The images help user to find a specific line faster.
+:*And that the same point I will make for the idea of axing the series order entirely from those pages: Whenever a user ends up on on of those pages, and doesn't find that information, how are they supposed to know that they have to look for a complete spirits list to get it? It's pretty much the same problem here: You're thinking about where the information should go, when you should rather be thinking about where the information could be easily found by a random user.
+:*The horizontally-merged table cells are not core to the proposition, I just went the way this wiki usually does. We can do the same thing without them rowspan, so this is an irrelevant point in my opinion.
+:Not that I want to push the idea so hard that I would dismiss any counter argument, but yours, just like a year ago, all sound a lot like "I just don't like it": Your point against dividing the informations seems pretty grounded, but for the other ones, basically, you don't like the series order section, you don't like using the same image multiple times, and you don't like rowspan...
+:About changing the inspiration column into a trivia column in the battle parameters array, as proposed by Autismo555:
+:That wouldn't solve the clutter issue, that would actually make it worst. And not all trivia points are related to the battles anyway, so we would still have the issue of people going back and forth adding and removing some trivia points that are relevant to the spirit yet not related to its battle (like summon cores lore). Independantly of the first part of the proposition, I still strongly think we need to get that inspiration column out of the battle array.
+:- [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 04:57, February 22, 2021 (EST)