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With the advent of new special moves having two names depending on certain circumstances (such as [[Egg Firing/Breegull Blaster]], [[Gun/Gun Special]], and [[Burning Knuckle/Crack Shoot]]), I noticed that every single one of those pages is only named after the first one. Except this page and Ken's equivalent. Also, having the two names be listed in the main title looks like it makes the redirect appear on top of the page. [[Special:Contributions/184.181.98.125|184.181.98.125]] 00:45, December 3, 2019 (EST) | With the advent of new special moves having two names depending on certain circumstances (such as [[Egg Firing/Breegull Blaster]], [[Gun/Gun Special]], and [[Burning Knuckle/Crack Shoot]]), I noticed that every single one of those pages is only named after the first one. Except this page and Ken's equivalent. Also, having the two names be listed in the main title looks like it makes the redirect appear on top of the page. [[Special:Contributions/184.181.98.125|184.181.98.125]] 00:45, December 3, 2019 (EST) | ||
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I am '''opposed''' to moving both this and [[Shippu Jinraikyaku / Shinryuken]], mostly because [[#Title|this has been previously discussed before]]. However, the IP who posted the move tag does bring up an interesting point - moves that are completely different (and not just a slight upgrade/difference from the original move, like [[Heel Slide]] or [[Gun]]) should be treated the same as both Street Fighter Final Smashes, no? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:43, December 3, 2019 (EST) | I am '''opposed''' to moving both this and [[Shippu Jinraikyaku / Shinryuken]], mostly because [[#Title|this has been previously discussed before]]. However, the IP who posted the move tag does bring up an interesting point - moves that are completely different (and not just a slight upgrade/difference from the original move, like [[Heel Slide]] or [[Gun]]) should be treated the same as both Street Fighter Final Smashes, no? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 00:43, December 3, 2019 (EST) | ||
:From the discussion above, it looks like the name was kept because of it being the name on the trophy. Thing is, the Mega Evolution final smash pages for Lucario and Charizard are named after the form instead of simply "Mega Evolution", despite the latter being the actual names on the trophies. Also, renaming some pages to accommodate this but not others sounds good on paper, but [[Egg Firing/Breegull Blaster]] is a weird gray area that ultimately it's better to stick with one system. [[Special:Contributions/184.181.98.125|184.181.98.125]] 01:13, December 3, 2019 (EST) | :From the discussion above, it looks like the name was kept because of it being the name on the trophy. Thing is, the Mega Evolution final smash pages for Lucario and Charizard are named after the form instead of simply "Mega Evolution", despite the latter being the actual names on the trophies. Also, renaming some pages to accommodate this but not others sounds good on paper, but [[Egg Firing/Breegull Blaster]] is a weird gray area that ultimately it's better to stick with one system. [[Special:Contributions/184.181.98.125|184.181.98.125]] 01:13, December 3, 2019 (EST) | ||
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I '''support''' moving this article to Shin Shoryuken. Regarding the previous discussion about moving this article which occured during the age of SSB4, it would have made more sense to just split this article in two per Final Smash, seeing as how the double-move property was unique to Shin Shoryuken/Shinku Hadoken at the time. However, as mentioned by Aidan, an IP user brought up a point which is much more relevant to the current state of Smash: if we don't rename this article accordingly, we wouldn't be maintaining consistency with other double moves (see examples above). It's been established with those examples (and Ken's Final Smash) that this is a mechanic we could possibly see more of in Ultimate via DLC. Since this is the case, consistent naming of these articles, be they moves or Final Smashes, just seems to make more sense - especially if we continue writing about each move/Final Smash in separate sections of their articles anyway. [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer'''</span>]][[User talk:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:red">''28''</span>]][[File:Acgamer28SignatureHead.png|20px]] 11:58, May 16, 2020 (EDT) | I '''support''' moving this article to Shin Shoryuken. Regarding the previous discussion about moving this article which occured during the age of SSB4, it would have made more sense to just split this article in two per Final Smash, seeing as how the double-move property was unique to Shin Shoryuken/Shinku Hadoken at the time. However, as mentioned by Aidan, an IP user brought up a point which is much more relevant to the current state of Smash: if we don't rename this article accordingly, we wouldn't be maintaining consistency with other double moves (see examples above). It's been established with those examples (and Ken's Final Smash) that this is a mechanic we could possibly see more of in Ultimate via DLC. Since this is the case, consistent naming of these articles, be they moves or Final Smashes, just seems to make more sense - especially if we continue writing about each move/Final Smash in separate sections of their articles anyway. [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer'''</span>]][[User talk:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:red">''28''</span>]][[File:Acgamer28SignatureHead.png|20px]] 11:58, May 16, 2020 (EDT) | ||
First of all, the IP sure did make a good point. On the other hand, moving it would seem that we're belittling Shinku Hadoken. Another thing is that, it's also removing the emphasis of Ryu's Final Smash's uniqueness. So, I'm '''Neutral''', but slightly more to opposing it. [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 12:56, May 16, 2020 (EDT) |
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