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==Policy proposal== | |||
This is my attempt to bring in a policy that restricts userspace/forum editing during busy times while retaining the "loose" atmosphere we have. The gist is that when business is slow, we don't care that much if you play in your userspace - we'll still tell people to not do it and lock those who do it excessively, but in the end it doesn't hurt us. When there's a need to do work, though - a situation we all know will happen within the next year or so when SSB4 information starts to come out - then we get more strict on living in userspace and forums. Bulbapedia does similar to this - they're currently restricting userspace edits to one a day since B2/W2 came out (though their reason is more of server load). | This is my attempt to bring in a policy that restricts userspace/forum editing during busy times while retaining the "loose" atmosphere we have. The gist is that when business is slow, we don't care that much if you play in your userspace - we'll still tell people to not do it and lock those who do it excessively, but in the end it doesn't hurt us. When there's a need to do work, though - a situation we all know will happen within the next year or so when SSB4 information starts to come out - then we get more strict on living in userspace and forums. Bulbapedia does similar to this - they're currently restricting userspace edits to one a day since B2/W2 came out (though their reason is more of server load). | ||
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== One thing that could be considered... == | == One thing that could be considered... == | ||
Closer to the time, once more and more edits about SSB4 come around, [[ | Closer to the time, once more and more edits about SSB4 come around, [[mw:Extension:Patroller|Extension:Patroller]] could be installed. This adds the red exclamation marks next to unpatrolled edits in recent changes. Then admins, and possibly rollback (if you give them the patroller user right) could then check the edits and make sure they are not stupid. It wouldn't limit the amount of stupid edits but it would make it easier to identify the stupid edits. Also, an autopatrolled right could be given to trusted users. Just a suggestion anyway, one that Wikisimpsons uses anyway (and it works pretty well there). <span style="font-family:AR Darling">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:black">The</span> <span style="color:blue">Solar</span> <span style="color:red">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:bgreen">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span> 08:05, 2 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
:I didn't realize we didn't already have this, I '''support''' installing it, and at the same time, I would like to become a patroller. On the wikis I am an administrator, I always check and then patrol new edits, and being autoconfirmed myself would be a relief for everyone else. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:04, 2 August 2012 (EDT) | :I didn't realize we didn't already have this, I '''support''' installing it, and at the same time, I would like to become a patroller. On the wikis I am an administrator, I always check and then patrol new edits, and being autoconfirmed myself would be a relief for everyone else. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:04, 2 August 2012 (EDT) | ||
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::::Whatever, Hitler. I'll just go to the Super Smash Bros. wiki on Wikia where no stupid rules like this exist.[[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 21:10, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | ::::Whatever, Hitler. I'll just go to the Super Smash Bros. wiki on Wikia where no stupid rules like this exist.[[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 21:10, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::::[[SW:NPA]] first of all. Secondly, they don't ban users for editing their userspace, they get put on probation, which prevents them from editing forums and userspaces and even then the probations usually only last 3-7 days, plus admins are usually pretty chill about the rule, I've seen many people get away with just a warning even in the red, they really only issue a probation when they ignore the warning. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 21:29, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | :::::[[SW:NPA]] first of all. Secondly, they don't ban users for editing their userspace, they get put on probation, which prevents them from editing forums and userspaces and even then the probations usually only last 3-7 days, plus admins are usually pretty chill about the rule, I've seen many people get away with just a warning even in the red, they really only issue a probation when they ignore the warning. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 21:29, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
::::::"Userspace and forum edits are heavily restricted: users will be strongly discouraged to make more than a few such edits a day, with too many too quickly resulting in a short block." [[Special:Contributions/72.181.167.204|72.181.167.204]] 22:58, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::Then it should be reworded, but in all my time here on the wiki, I've seen very, very few people actually get blocked for userspace edits (I've only seen like 3, but all of them were doing something else wrong as well) [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 23:01, 15 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::::Whenever a user opens the editing page for his/her userpage, this is what the top says: | |||
::::::*'''''The wiki currently has a high Red [[SW:SSS|status]].''' Editing your userspace without contributing to the mainspace will result in your [[SW:PROB|probation]].'' [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy 00:39, 16 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Do we need to be in red starting February 3rd? == | |||
I know we were not in red for Ryu and Roy's release, but this release seems a lot bigger, given that it is to be the last DLC for Smash. As such, the edit volume on this day may be tremendous as we attempt to tie up loose ends. I have considered just putting us in red on Feb 3rd, but I wanted to hear what you all think first. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:29, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:I personally think we should go to Royu way. I mean, same number of characters. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 22:47, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::Just because it's the same number doesn't mean it's not gonna be any more chaotic. As Serpent said, it's the last two DLC characters, people will be all over those and there will be chaos until everything's finished up. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 22:48, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::(edit conflict) Yeah, but we didn't have the whole "end of DLC" bit to contend with, which I feel will add to the edit volume considerably <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:49, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
If red, how many updates are we allowed to make? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:50, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:There is no hard-fast limit, just make it reasonable. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:52, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::To SK and DF, good point. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 22:53, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::: To be clear, I think we should be in red for a couple of days, as that's when testing knockback and stuff like that wraps up. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 22:55, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::Same number of characters? Three where released that day (Lucas was already known, however). -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 22:58, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::: Oops. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main. 23:05, 31 January 2016 (EST) | |||
<s>Yeah!! Let's go to pink!</s> Seems reasonable to go to red [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|KirbysCrazyAppetite]] ([[User talk:KirbysCrazyAppetite|talk]]) 07:00, 1 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:Everyone get your userspace edits in now, we are most likely going to be in red very soon. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:53, 1 February 2016 (EST) | |||
I disagree with red. We had much more information coming in for Royucas because it wasn't just the release but also a reveal, and we weren't in red and had no problem. Going to red for something we've known about for two months and is a smaller amount of content. just seems like an overreaction. I'd say keep it mid-to-high yellow and if we do suddenly get a wave of people for whatever reason, then we can switch it. But with only two characters and a stage that, again, we've known about for two months and already have footage for, plus the fact that basically no one is excited for them, I just think red is ridiculous. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 21:04, 1 February 2016 (EST) | |||
== Color == | |||
What is required to change the status color? Is it something other than the number like what an admin does? The whole time I've been on here it has been yellow. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 21:36, 5 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:Uncontrollable amounts of traffic [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 21:37, 5 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:To change the status color, a huge amount of info has to burst and traffic has to be very thick. An admin changes the status. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: red;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:pink;">'''The Lovingly Evil Clone'''</span>]] 22:22, 5 February 2016 (EST) | |||
::Or there could be a lot ''less'' traffic to change to status. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']] [[User talk:Penro|...that's all.]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 22:25, 5 February 2016 (EST) | |||
== + and - == | |||
I'm not sure. Would -5 mean less than (or equal to) 5 or five less than zero? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 18:47, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Less 5 less than 0 <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:50, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
:The latter, I think. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 19:06, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
== What does this actually mean? == | |||
What does the number actually mean? Does it represent how the wiki normally is? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 20:54, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
:The SWSS is a system for telling both how much there is to do and how much activity there is. It's primarily used to give users a feel for how many userspace edits they should be limiting themselves to. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:19, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
::I meant would does 0 represent how it normally is. Like, what would, say... -15 mean? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 22:16, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
:-15 would mean that there is still stuff to do, but in general, the wiki is in good shape. We start to consider going to green around -30 or so <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:27, 14 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Green == | |||
Will this wiki ever turn back to green? [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 15:49, 2 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
:As soon as the things to do tab goes below 1000, it's likely it'll revert to green at that point. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:51, 2 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Errors in there == | |||
It says for the yellow status: Userspace and forum edits are loosely restricted: warnings given for spending too much time in userspace/forums are given sooner, with locks and/or blocks following equally soon. But there's no such thing as a lock on the wiki, unless it means a page protection. [[File:AlbumArt-Dixie.png|20px]] [[User:TabuuandMasterCore|TabuuandMasterCore]] 07:40, 30 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
:I'm sure it means probation [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 07:42, 30 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Why is it green? == | |||
The things to do list isn't below 1,000 so why is it green? [[File:AlbumArt-Dixie.png|20px]] [[User:TabuuandMasterCore|TabuuandMasterCore]] 22:41, 13 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:A vote was put into place recently and the consensus was almost unanimous to bring it to green. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 22:52, 13 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
== What is the point of this system? == | |||
I don't get why this system is a thing, why is it around in the first place? [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:George Jones|George Jones]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 20:20, 4 August 2018 (EDT) | |||
:it's for a user to get a feel for how busy we are at any time, especially so they can know how much to edit their userspace without being in trouble. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:13, 4 August 2018 (EDT) | |||