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 Since I've seen this discussion in the edit summaries, might as well open this to discussion. As far as I know there is no official confirmation that the female's name is "Green", and even so, her design is based off the original concept for a female trainer, and not the current trainer represented in Smash. While you can argue that since the female protagonist has no official name and thus should be called "Green", remember that differences in naming the protagonist in remakes can happen, as per the Kris/Lyra situation from the Johto games. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:33, 16 November 2018 (EST)
 :I was going to add it here as well. In regards to the name of the female Trainer, we should only change it if ''Bulbapedia'' does as it is now a current debate on there because of the female character's appearance in "Let's Go". Until then, we should keep her current "canon" name, being "Leaf". Otherwise we'd be arguing something that is better discussed on Bulbapedia. ("if they change it" I mean, change the page from Leaf_(Game) to Green_(Game). They ''might'' change it. Who knows? [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:41, 16 November 2018 (EST)
+Apparently the decision to change the female protagonist on Bulbapedia has been reached. At least for the time being, Bulbapedia is going with '''Green''' because of ''Let's Go''. However, Bulbapedia still refers to the version of the girl as '''Leaf''' in her appearance for ''FireRed & LeafGreen''. I view this as a similar case to Zelda's current profile picture. Despite Zelda's most recent appearance being BotW, she uses her ALBW art as that is, one of, the basis of her most recent appearance in ''Smash'', being ''Ultimate''. Because the female Pokémon Trainer is specifically based on her appearance from ''FireRed & LeafGreen'' in ''Smash Ultimate'', she should be referred to as name used for those games, being '''Leaf'''. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 23:15, 18 November 2018 (EST)
+Green is her canonical name and the first times she is named in a pokemon games, and was also named Green in the manga, Leaf was her non-official name giving by fan. Her name is now green on bulbapedia https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Green_(game)[[User:Jf811|Jf811]] ([[User talk:Jf811|talk]]) 18:18, 19 November 2018 (EST)
+:On the same page, it states that "As the player character in Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, she is known as Leaf," and her design is based off the FR/LG version. I believe it should still stay as Leaf for now. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:46, 19 November 2018 (EST)
+:It should also be noted that the manga names are not consistent with the playable character names. Eg. Calem is called X and Serena is called Y in the manga. The only consistent one is Red and Blue/Green (the male rival). [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:48, 19 November 2018 (EST)
+:::It's worth noting that, according to her [https://twitter.com/kotobukiyas/status/1048377301530947584 official figurine], the ''FireRed/LeafGreen'' design is named "Leaf". [[User:DryKirby64|DryKirby64]] ([[User talk:DryKirby64|talk]]) 18:30, 19 November 2018 (EST)
+::::Remember: [[SmashWiki is not official]], please read it over for more information. Just because ''Bulbapdia'' uses "Green", "Leaf" is more well known. Bulbapdia ''also'' uses "Leaf" when referring to the female player in ''FireRed & LeafGreen''. At least for the time being, it should be the more commonly known/used "Leaf". [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:53, 19 November 2018 (EST)
+:::::It doesn't matter that SmashWiki is not official -- she is officially called Leaf as well as Green. Read the name section on Bulbapedia: she is called Leaf in the data of FRLG as well as the figurine DryKirby64 just cited.
+:::::The differentiation seems to be that the female player in FRLG is Leaf and the beta female characted from RGBY is Green, just like Kris (from Crystal) and Lyra (from HGSS). Leaf is the only one that appears in Smash. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 19:41, 19 November 2018 (EST)
+::::::What I meant by "not official" was not that neither was official. They both are! Is that "Leaf" is the more ''associated'' name of the character(s). [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 20:14, 19 November 2018 (EST)
+:::::::From my knowledge as a Pokémon fan, Leaf was a name voted on by Bulbagarden Forums because the female protagonist didn't have one, the name ended up sticking and even made it into official merchandise. There is no evidence that she was originally called Leaf, but it's been 14 years since Gen 1 remakes came out, so the name is pretty much solidified as the protag's actual name. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 20:31, 19 November 2018 (EST)
+In case anyone was still on the fence on the female trainer's name, [https://twitter.com/PokemonMasters/status/1219318714652418051 Pokemon Masters] has '''officially''' referred to the female trainer from FireRed&LeafGreen as "Leaf". Meaning, that Green/Blue in Let's Go (and other appearances) is a completely separate character. And that the character we've referred to as "Leaf" unofficially will stay as "leaf", but now officially. [[Special:Contributions/66.194.104.5|66.194.104.5]] 15:56, January 21, 2020 (EST)