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 *You should make that a sandbox. And you can add Sans too. [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 21:54, September 27, 2019 (EDT)
 ::Maybe in the near future, but not now. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 21:57, September 27, 2019 (EDT)
+[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_J1yGa3SY-Y| I'm sorry but it looks like ''Ultimate'' will only have content from video games.]
+:That's not what the discussion is about, though. [[User:SuperSmashTurtles|SuperSmashTurtles]] ([[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|talk]]) 21:07, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
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 Then techincally speaking, shouldn't the trivial point be that only '''Yoshi''' does not face ''characters with humanoid characteristics''? (Cause Dark Samus has some despite not canonically being considered a human) --[[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 11:54, October 4, 2019 (EDT)
 :No, because some of the characters Yoshi faces have “human-like” qualities. (Koopalings, Bowser, Ridley) Both Yoshi and Samus only face non-human characters, primarily because the Pokémon Trainer themself is absent when fighting their Pokémon. Dark Samus only “seems” human due to having a resemblance to Samus, of which is actually only of her suit. Dark Samus only looks like Samus’ suit because the information given to DS was of Samus in her suit. Dark Samus definitely does not look like a human when her face is shown. If they’re not classified as even 0.1% human in their home series, then they’re not human in Smash. Actually, not counting WFT or the Miis, Olimar and Alph can be considered not “humans” due to coming to a planet other then Earth, being Hocotate and Koppai respectively. In fact, their wiki doesn’t state what race they are, unlike Link, Pit, Bayonetta, Cloud, and Wario who do get classified on their wikis. So does Rosalina who is a human. Heroes 4 & 8 from Dragon Quest are Half-human, half-Zenithian, and Half-human, half-Dragovian respectively, but still human. Other non-playable Heroes of Dragon Quest are either half-human or become human by their game’s end. The main trivia point is that both Yoshi and Samus don’t fight any humans, of which is true. I would suggest going to a character’s respective wiki to see what race they are to see if any other characters don’t face any humans. [[Special:Contributions/172.58.169.219|172.58.169.219]] 13:27, October 4, 2019 (EDT)
+By reading about him more on the Pikmin Wiki, I guess now Olimar also isn't human, but rather (like Dark Samus) a humanoid alien... so by examination, Pichu is the only other character besides Yoshi and Samus that has no humans for opponents. [[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 02:39, November 9, 2019 (EST)
+I also now confirm that angels like Pit and Dark Pit don't count as humans as well, but goddesses like Palutena don't count either, right? [[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 18:31, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+:If she's a Goddess, she's not human.
+:If you are asking these questions, chances are your trivia point is too complicated. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:32, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+Cause if that's the case than Bayonetta is the FOURTH character who doesn't face humans after Samus, Yoshi, and (based on Olimar being alien and not human despite his similar characteristics) Pichu! [[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 18:43, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+:If that's the case, then I don't believe this trivia's that unique anymore. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:46, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+If it's FIVE characters or more, then no, it's not unique. But there's only FOUR who's all human, and four who are all anything but. Cause Hylians are a human species in ''Zelda'', Corrin, although he/she has draconic transformation abilities, is human most of the time, Ganondorf, although he has demonic transformation abilities, is human by default (much like Corrin), and Luma is non-playable sidekick of Rosalina (for Bowser Jr.'s route). [[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 18:49, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+:Look, trivia isn't supposed to be this complicated. It's simply details and tidbits that people find interesting. If trivia is this complicated I recommend <s>either thinking it out thoroughly before implementing or</s> not adding it at all. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:52, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+I’ll just end this by saying that settles it. But if another future DLC character will eventually get a route that’s either all humans or anything but, then that’s when the trivial point I listed weeks, if not months, ago deserves to be taken down. [[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 18:59, November 10, 2019 (EST)
 == DK's Dab not allowed in the Super Mario Wiki ==
-Hello! It looks DK's Dab is not allowed to be mentioned in the Super Mario Wiki. Behold! I shall use my powers to take you to the Super Mario Wiki! [https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Donkey_Kong#DK.27s_Dab|Here it is!]
+Hello! It looks DK's Dab is not allowed to be mentioned in the Super Mario Wiki. Behold! I shall use my powers to take you to the Super Mario Wiki! [https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Donkey_Kong#DK.27s_Dab| Here it is!]
 It's the reason why it should be mentioned in the SmashWiki instead.
 :First, sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>
 :Second, just because it's allowed in Super Mario Wiki doesn't mean it's allowed on SmashWiki. We are two different wikis, and we only list ''Smash'' facts, not ''Mario Kart'' facts. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:26, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
+::Third, I just looked at the talk page on Super Mario Wiki, and there has been no consensus reached whether it's allowed on Super Mario Wiki, so that point itself is invalid. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:28, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
+Try adding DK's dab in the Donkey Kong article in the Super Mario Wiki.
+:No. Drop this nonsense about DK's dab already, it's not allowed here nor Super Mario Wiki. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:33, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
+Okay! Nonsense dropped.
+Yup! I guess it's a nonsense to both wikis.
+Okay... but there's this animation for DK's neutral air that looks like he is "doing the dab". Take a look at this [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/b/bc/DonkeyKongNAir.gif]. Maybe it's only that DK's Dab ''FROM MARIO KART 8'' is not allowed on either wiki.
+HELLO! Are you here? Come on!
+:Don't rush me, I have a life outside this wiki.
+:As for the animation, it's somewhat of a stretch, plus even if it can be interpreted as a dab it's very minute. Finally, we rarely ever add memes onto the wiki unless it has gained significant traction, which this one hasn't. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 20:25, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
+:Lemme put it bluntly: None of us wikis care about the dab so we ain't adding it in. <span style="font-family:Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #2091ff">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;">SupαToαd64,</span>]] [[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:lime;">the Best</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 20:29, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
+<nowiki>:/</nowiki> [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 20:30, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
+:#You asked a question, and you were told no, so that should've told you to stop. You also came here, in spite of the fact that someone told you no on MarioWiki.
+:#Frankly, you shouldn't have brought this issue here to begin with, because [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not for off-wiki business|we're not to be used for off-wiki business]].
+:[[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:40, October 7, 2019 (EDT)
+Sorry for disrupting you guys! You guys, just go back to editing the articles on the SmashWiki.
+Y'know it's like this annoying ambidextrous thing I used to do when I was 15.
+Anyways, sorry for adding conflicts about DK doing this One Thing but good night anyways!
+== Real name ==
+Why does your real name say "Jebaited". Maybe your real name's a secret.
+:It is ;) [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 06:51, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+== Swimming speeds. ==
+In case you didn't know Sonic is slower than Squitle when swimming. Speeking of swimming speeds, it's supposed to mean how fast the characters swim. [[Special:Contributions/63.143.194.34|63.143.194.34]] 19:07, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+:Think about it, if swimming speed exists, wouldn't it have been put onto the wiki already? Plus, that may be because of Sonic's weakness in water. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:15, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+I think some characters might have different speeds when swimming.
+Can't somebody put actual datas for every character when swimming.
+[[Special:Contributions/172.58.230.225|172.58.230.225]] 19:43, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+:"Think" =/= "Exists." You can help out by trying to find data for speed, but from my experience playing the game plus looking it up online, there isn't any difference in speed in swimming. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:48, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+If anybody can hack those games to find out the swim vaules for those characters, that would be great! [[Special:Contributions/172.58.230.225|172.58.230.225]] 19:58, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+:Say hello to dataminers. Maybe you can ask one if there are values for swimming. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:59, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+Which user in this wiki is a dataminer?
+:I'm not sure about that, but you can search for them online, like [https://twitter.com/drhypercake?lang=en this person]. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 20:21, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+== Tournament Characters ==
+Very recently, you reverted an edit because Zackray did not win a set at The Big House 9 with Corrin or Sonic. I understand that this idea has been followed for a while, but why? What's the purpose of excluding characters that the player did use? The only circumstance I can imagine it would be unnecessary to add a character is if the player only used them in one game for fun. I don't want to make a proposal to change this as it isn't a policy, I just thought I'd ask about it. [[User:KungFuLakitu|KungFuLakitu]], [[User talk:KungFuLakitu|Spiny Overlord]] 19:31, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+:If you want my most honest answer, it's that me and other users have only recorded wins with characters on this wiki. My reasoning is that, most of the time, they're characters that are only used once during a match; if we record all character wins, [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Tournament:Sumabato_SP_6&oldid=1262328 we would have cases like this one], where it unnecessarily stretch out the table. Of course, there are still examples where players have won sets with like 8 characters ([[Tournament:Ascension V|trust me]]) but those are very rare cases. To be consistent with all tournaments, however, that's why we generally don't include characters that they lost sets with. Either that, or we only list wins on this wiki. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:47, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+::Another (potentially erroneous) reasoning is that listing characters that didn't help them win a set shows that they aren't truly skilled with playing said character. For example, Stroder lost to ESAM playing Dr. Mario at Ultimate Nimbus. Should this character be recorded, showcasing that Stroder is a competent Dr. Mario main in that situation? Similarly, Nairo won game 4 with Robin against Marss a while ago, but then lost game 5 using Dark Pit. We didn't record Robin since, if he truly was a competent Robin main in that situation, he would've stuck with that character and defeated Marss instead. Again, this may be severely flawed, but it's another reason. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:54, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+:::I guess that makes sense, but I feel like there could be another way to deal with these situations. I'll drop it for now though and leave the problem-solving to bigger minds than mine. Thanks. [[User:KungFuLakitu|KungFuLakitu]], [[User talk:KungFuLakitu|Spiny Overlord]] 19:57, October 8, 2019 (EDT)
+== Donkey Kong, Bowser, Diddy Kong and King K. Rool ==
+This makes no sense. Why would [[Donkey Kong]], [[Bowser]], [[Diddy Kong]] and [[King K. Rool]] use animal noises in the ''Super Smash Bros.'' games, instead of being voiced by their current canon voice actors? [[Special:Contributions/74.89.234.53|74.89.234.53]] 17:45, October 11, 2019 (EDT)
+:I have no idea, that's Sakurai's decision. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:15, October 11, 2019 (EDT)
+::(@74.89.234.53) For future reference [[SW:TALK|this isn't proper use of talk pages]]. That said I don't get it either, especially for Bowser since in Melee they used his canon voice (at the time from MK64). <span style="font-family:Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #2091ff">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;">SupαToαd64,</span>]] [[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:lime;">the Best</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 21:38, October 11, 2019 (EDT)
+== [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:35.136.185.103&diff=1303919&oldid=1303918 A quick note about this edit] ==
+It somewhat counts as [[SW:BTALK|block talk]] when you said to "expect consequences" as even though you didn't specifically say they'll get blocked, it still counts as threatening them with a ban. (Yeah we both got carried a way a bit today) <span style="font-family:Algerian;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #2091ff">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;">SupαToαd64,</span>]] [[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:lime;">the Best</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 00:51, October 12, 2019 (EDT)
+:By "expect consequences," I was going more for a "admin intervention" rather than blocking. I got to admit, though, not the best use of words, since it is pretty hard to tell someone without block talking. Anyways, you are right, I'll be more careful myself as well. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 09:13, October 12, 2019 (EDT)
+== King Dedede's in-game custom taunt. ==
+[[File:SSBUWebsiteKingDedede4.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]
+Just to be clear, it's no longer possible for [[King Dedede]] to have this look when he's crouching in ''Ultimate''. He now squints when crouching. I think this should also go to [[Unused content (SSBU)]]. [[Special:Contributions/63.143.205.12|63.143.205.12]] 08:34, October 20, 2019 (EDT)
+:Actually I think I can handle this. [[Special:Contributions/63.143.205.12|63.143.205.12]] 08:34, October 20, 2019 (EDT)
+== Oops my B ==
+To answer your edit summary, that revert on the Sharkz page was indeed an accident. I don't even remember doing it so it was probably me clicking to wake my monitor up after it went to sleep. [[User:Jaydyn|Jaydyn]] ([[User talk:Jaydyn|talk]]) 14:52, November 3, 2019 (EST)
+:It's fine, I've done that before as well. If I came off as angry, that was not my intention. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 14:59, November 3, 2019 (EST)
+== End date takes priority over start date ==
+If a tournament finishes a day before another tournament, it should be listed first (which is the case with smasher results sections, the national tournaments page, and all of the PGR pages for Smash 4). [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 18:19, November 6, 2019 (EST)
+:Isn't that what I did? [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:21, November 6, 2019 (EST)
+::You moved DreamHack Atlanta (November 15th-17th) before Umebura SP7/Smash Out 2019 (November 16th). Umebura and Smash Out should be listed first in this instance, as they both conclude a day before DreamHack Atlanta, even if DreamHack's start date was earlier. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 18:29, November 6, 2019 (EST)
+:::I may have messed up the dates, I thought DHATL Was November 15th-16th. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:30, November 6, 2019 (EST)
+== Adding pictures to smasher pages ==
+How do you implement them? Never knew how to on a mobile device. [[User:MemeDedede|MemeDedede]] ([[User talk:MemeDedede|talk]]) 10:30, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+:I upload all of my images on my computer, so I'm not sure how to do it on a mobile device.
+:I believe if you can, go to desktop mode on your phone (at the very bottom of the page) and go to "upload files". There, you can upload a file and add it to a Smasher page. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 10:33, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+::I use mobile all the time and adding pictures is honestly pretty easy. Just upload your pictures in [[Special:Upload]] and then add them to the ''image parameter'' on smasher pages. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]]  [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 10:35, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+== Hey ==
+Would you like to continue the Pokémon spirit battle origins and by the way, Miltank’s spirit battle is a reference to Whitney’s Miltank spamming rollout from Gen 2 themed games? I am a big Pokémon and SSB fan hyped for Sword and Shield. [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 17:54, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+:No worries! I'm trying to do that right now, although it's taking up a lot of time and I have other stuff to do afterwards. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 17:56, November 10, 2019 (EST)
+== Protagonist Opponents ==
+So Dark Samus and Ganondorf fight heroes for opponents... wouldn't most of Mewtwo's opponents count as well? [[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 19:43, November 17, 2019 (EST)
+:Yes, but how is that unique? [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:46, November 17, 2019 (EST)
+Oh, just asking... [[User:NinTylo|NinTylo]] ([[User talk:NinTylo|talk]]) 19:51, November 17, 2019 (EST)