Marth (SSB4): Difference between revisions

*{{change|Marth is slightly heavier than in ''Brawl'' (87 → 90), improving his endurance but making him easier to combo at early percentages from the changes to hitstun cancelling.}}

*{{buff|Almost all of Marth's attacks have slightly increased range compared to ''Brawl'' (apart from forward smash and Shield Breaker), ranging from a 0.25 increase to a 3.5 increase (2.5 before 1.1.4, as certain moves were increased further in said patch).}}  

*{{nerf|Despite this, his range is worse relative to the cast hindering his ability to wall out his opponents. This is further exacerbated by the nerfs some of his key spacing tools received such as his [[forward aerial]].}}  

*{{change|Marth's [[gravity]] is higher (0.06715 → 0.075), hindering his endurance and making him more susceptible to combos, but allowing him to reach his falling speed faster.}}

*{{nerf|Marth's [[grab]] more startup lag (frame 6 → 7) and has less range.}}

*{{buff|Dash grab has less startup lag (frame 9 → 8). Dash and pivot grab also have less ending lag (FAF 40 (dash), 36 (pivot) → 37/35).}}

**{{nerf|Forward throw has significantly higher knockback (70 (base), 45 (scaling) → 100/50). This removes many of his follow-up options after a forward throw unless at extremely low percentages, as he can now only lead into a neutral aerial or forward aerial until around 20%, as opposed to having multiple mix-ups right up until high percents. Due to the aforementioned change, Marth can also no longer [[chaingrab]] or tech chase opponents with his forward throw.}}  

**{{change|Back throw has much more base knockback (50 → 80). While this harms its follow-up ability, this makes it better at creating space and getting opponents off-stage and setting up for potential edge-guards.}}

**{{buff|Down throw sends foes at an upwards trajectory (135° → 100°), with more base knockback (65 → 95), which gives some new follow-up options with his aerials at low percents. This new trajectory also gives Marth a new throw for getting opponents above him without needing to stale his kill throw in up throw.}}

**{{nerf|Down throw's upwards trajectory and higher knockback removes its ability for tech-chases and it can no longer chain grab opponents.}}

**{{buff|Uncharged Shield Breaker now gives Marth a bigger horizontal boost when used in the air, aiding Marth's recovery. A fully charged Shield Breaker also deals more shield damage (40 → 50), and a tippered Shield Breaker has more base knockback (50 → 60) and has increased hitlag (1.5× (uncharged)/1× (fully charged) → 1.6×), combined with the aforementioned shield changes, this makes the fully charged variant even more effective at breaking shields (now completely guaranteeing a shield break).}}

**{{nerf|Uncharged Shield Breaker deals less [[shield damage]] (42 → 25) and less [[hitlag]] when uncharged and sourspotted (1.3× → 1×), making the move worse at breaking shields despite the significant increase in shield damage (having a 1.19x multiplier instead of a 0.7x multiplier) as well as the increase in [[shieldstun]]. Marth also no longer steps an extra distance forward when using Shield Breaker, making the move's range shorter. In addition, a sourspotted Shield Breaker deals less knockback (30 (uncharged base)/50 (fully charged base), 100 (scaling) → 30/90 (both)). Lastly, Shield Breaker has a shorter duration (frames 19-22 → 19-20).}}

**{{buff|The downward hits of Dancing Blade deal slightly more damage (down hit 3: 4%/5% → 4.5%/5.5%, down hit 4 final hit: 3%/5% → 4%/6%). The second (FAF 47 → 39) and third (FAF 51 → 44) hits also have less ending lag. The forward fourth hit also deals more knockback (50 (base), 125 (scaling) → 60/130).}}

**{{nerf|The first hit of Dancing Blade has more startup lag with a shorter duration (frame 4-7 → 6-8) and more ending lag (FAF 30 → 42) significantly hindering its followup potential. The downward fourth hit also has more ending lag (FAF 66 → 72), and the third hit downward no longer [[meteor smash]]es (270° → 44°). It is also harder to connect each hit together compared to ''Brawl'', due to the fact of each hit having slightly increased base knockback and transitioning into the next hit slower (though it still connects far better than it did in comparison to ''Melee'', and still connects together very well until just over 100%). Its hover effect in midair is also much weaker to the point it is almost negligible, hindering Marth's recovery.}}

**{{change|The third upward hit of grounded Dancing Blade has a new animation, where Marth twists around and swings up instead of downwards.}}

**{{nerf|Dolphin Slash has less intangibility frames when grounded (frame 1-5 → 4-5), making it less safe as an [[out of shield]] option. Sweetspotted Dolphin Slash also deals less damage (13% → 11%), making it slightly weaker despite its increased knockback scaling (68 → 74). Dolphin Slash's sweetspot hitbox is smaller (6.5u → 4u), which makes hitting with a reverse Dolphin Slash harder.}}  

**{{buff|Counter has increased base knockback (40 → 60) and has a slightly higher damage multiplier (1.1× → 1.2×), being able to KO reliably off of strong countered attacks at very low percentages.}}

**{{nerf|Counter has more start-up with a shorter duration (frame 4-27 → 6-27).}}