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:IPs match. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:18, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
:IPs match. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:18, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
::OK, ya got me! But  can you blame me? I was unjustly banned because a stalker was given admin rights! It's not my fault your'e such a fucking cunt, is it! You know what, I'm through with acting all innocent here. You deserve to die! Stalkers should not be free to live life as they are! You should either be dead or in pain right now! And, I'm out of SmashWiki for good now, see ya guys! ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:20, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
::OK, ya got me! But  can you blame me? I was unjustly banned because a stalker was given admin rights! It's not my fault your'e such a fucking cu<!---->nt, is it! You know what, I'm through with acting all innocent here. You deserve to die! Stalkers should not be free to live life as they are! You should either be dead or in pain right now! And, I'm out of SmashWiki for good now, see ya guys! ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 13:20, 21 September 2011 (EDT)


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Regardless, the rules need to be changed, period - too many of them are left up to simple arbitration. --[[User:Quilt|Quilt]] ([[User talk:Quilt|talk]]) 19:38, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
Regardless, the rules need to be changed, period - too many of them are left up to simple arbitration. --[[User:Quilt|Quilt]] ([[User talk:Quilt|talk]]) 19:38, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
:The rules are fine. And it would benefit you because if the rules were less "lenient" we couldn't be "negative" toward you, even though you were doing things that warranted it. Again, I'm cool with new users like the one who came on last night, but not if they say ridiculous bullshit even when told not to. So you're the one strawmanning, saying we are antagonistic toward new users. We aren't, just toward you. All you're doing here is making yourself look worse and wasting everyone's time. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 19:43, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
:The rules are fine. And it would benefit you because if the rules were less "lenient" we couldn't be "negative" toward you, even though you were doing things that warranted it. Again, I'm cool with new users like the one who came on last night, but not if they say ridiculous bullshit even when told not to. So you're the one strawmanning, saying we are antagonistic toward new users. We aren't, just toward you. All you're doing here is making yourself look worse and wasting everyone's time. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 19:43, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
::I'm an interested in seeing more leniency in the rules, not less, DoctorPain. How exactly would having rules that are more lenient protect me or anyone else from poor treatment? There is little preventing anyone from actually abusing someone in the chat - moderators can only help control the extent at which it is done. Not much would actually change, but the rules would still reflect common norms and values. There is a reason pages about communities and tournament rules are updated even though they may not actually affect any external decisions. I am aware it is not strictly the same, but there is a certain level of knowledge and expectation to be gained. --[[User:Quilt|Quilt]] ([[User talk:Quilt|talk]]) 19:57, 5 September 2013 (EDT)
:::We are not adding more leniency to the rules. This discussion is over, as it is wasting everyone's time. Archiving. There's no reason to "make the rules lenient" to "reflect norms". Like I've said many times, you don't change good rules to fit the bad enforcement of them, you change the bad enforcement to fit the good rules. If you wish to actually talk about improving the enforcement of the rules, then do so in a different discussion, but what you're doing here is ridiculous.<span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 20:02, 5 September 2013 (EDT)