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*{{SSB4|Roy}} was a high tier and best sword-fighter in the eyes of many players (including {{Sm|ZeRo}}) at his release. This was largely because players would often draw comparisons between Roy and Marth, who was surrounded by a negative stigma at the time, along with the notable buffs Roy received to his mobility, damage output, and power in the transition from ''Melee.'' However, Roy has so far failed to attain notable results, and opinions on him have steadily dropped. With stronger performances from other sword-fighters like Meta Knight, Ike, and Marth himself, and with the inclusion of Cloud and {{SSB4|Corrin}}, Roy is perceived as a low-tier character, as is evident with his rank at 32nd on the tier list (which is generally considered too high), and to some, he is among the worst characters in the game, with the most commonly mentioned reasons being his unsafe attacks, limited combos, difficulty KOing, lackluster recovery, and vulnerability to combos. He has fallen to 50th place in the second tier list. He currently sits at 44th on the third tier list. | *{{SSB4|Roy}} was a high tier and best sword-fighter in the eyes of many players (including {{Sm|ZeRo}}) at his release. This was largely because players would often draw comparisons between Roy and Marth, who was surrounded by a negative stigma at the time, along with the notable buffs Roy received to his mobility, damage output, and power in the transition from ''Melee.'' However, Roy has so far failed to attain notable results, and opinions on him have steadily dropped. With stronger performances from other sword-fighters like Meta Knight, Ike, and Marth himself, and with the inclusion of Cloud and {{SSB4|Corrin}}, Roy is perceived as a low-tier character, as is evident with his rank at 32nd on the tier list (which is generally considered too high), and to some, he is among the worst characters in the game, with the most commonly mentioned reasons being his unsafe attacks, limited combos, difficulty KOing, lackluster recovery, and vulnerability to combos. He has fallen to 50th place in the second tier list. He currently sits at 44th on the third tier list. | ||
*Though initially viewed as a mid-tier, opinions on {{SSB4|Mewtwo}} plummeted not long after its release, with many eventually regarding it as one of the worst characters in the game. Such negative opinions were generated mainly by its unusual combination of very low [[weight]] and large hurtbox, which made it highly susceptible to both combos and early KO's, its lack of a reliable combo throw, and its generally worsened frame data coming from ''Melee,'' along with Mewtwo being adversely affected by the loss of advanced techniques like [[wavedashing]] and [[L-cancelling]]. However, in updates [[1.1.3]] and 1.1.5, Mewtwo received a plethora of buffs to its mobility, frame data, range, and damage output, as well as a slight increase to its weight. Furthermore, it would gain strong results from its mains, with {{Sm|Abadango}} going as far as to win [[Pound 2016]] using mostly Mewtwo. Mewtwo's placement at 37th in the low tier of the tier list was partly a result of its previously poor status, and this is widely thought to be outdated in light of recent results. As of now, many players view Mewtwo as a high-tier character, with some believing it to be a top-tier, and with a few considering it as one of the best characters in the game. In retrospective, some players say Mewtwo's once poorly regarded status was too harsh, and that it was underrated as a whole. These players were eventually successful in their argument, as it is now 10th on the tier list. | *Though initially viewed as a mid-tier, opinions on {{SSB4|Mewtwo}} plummeted not long after its release, with many eventually regarding it as one of the worst characters in the game. Such negative opinions were generated mainly by its unusual combination of very low [[weight]] and large hurtbox, which made it highly susceptible to both combos and early KO's, its lack of a reliable combo throw, and its generally worsened frame data coming from ''Melee,'' along with Mewtwo being adversely affected by the loss of advanced techniques like [[wavedashing]] and [[L-cancelling]]. However, in updates [[1.1.3]] and 1.1.5, Mewtwo received a plethora of buffs to its mobility, frame data, range, and damage output, as well as a slight increase to its weight. Furthermore, it would gain strong results from its mains, with {{Sm|Abadango}} going as far as to win [[Pound 2016]] using mostly Mewtwo. Mewtwo's placement at 37th in the low tier of the tier list was partly a result of its previously poor status, and this is widely thought to be outdated in light of recent results. As of now, many players view Mewtwo as a high-tier character, with some believing it to be a top-tier, and with a few considering it as one of the best characters in the game. In retrospective, some players say Mewtwo's once poorly regarded status was too harsh, and that it was underrated as a whole. These players were eventually successful in their argument, as it is now 10th on the tier list. | ||
===[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]=== | ===''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''=== | ||
*At the very start of the metagame, {{SSBU|Mario}} was considered to be a mid tier character. While he was not necessarily a bad character, he looked worse as opposed to ''Smash 4 ''. Many swordfighters were also then considered to be top tiers or high tiers, especially {{SSBU|Chrom}}, {{SSBU|Ike}} and {{SSBU|Link}}. This gave Mario a difficult time faring with the cast. However, many players realized how strong Mario is. They saw how he has the combo potential, edgeguarding, punish game, kill power and speed he had from the last game. Many professionals were getting favorable results with Mario. {{Sm|Dark Wizzy}} in particular has gotten top 8 at Glitch 7 and Shine, both of which are supermajors. Dark Wizzy has also defeated other professionals like {{Sm|ESAM}}, {{Sm|MVD}}, {Sm|Dabuz}} and even {{Sm|Light}}. This in turn, makes Mario agreed to be a high tier. While there is not an official tier list, general consensus is Mario is a top 20 contender. | *At the very start of the metagame, {{SSBU|Mario}} was considered to be a mid tier character. While he was not necessarily a bad character, he looked worse as opposed to ''Smash 4 ''. Many swordfighters were also then considered to be top tiers or high tiers, especially {{SSBU|Chrom}}, {{SSBU|Ike}} and {{SSBU|Link}}. This gave Mario a difficult time faring with the cast. However, many players realized how strong Mario is. They saw how he has the combo potential, edgeguarding, punish game, kill power and speed he had from the last game. Many professionals were getting favorable results with Mario. {{Sm|Dark Wizzy}} in particular has gotten top 8 at Glitch 7 and Shine, both of which are supermajors. Dark Wizzy has also defeated other professionals like {{Sm|ESAM}}, {{Sm|MVD}}, {Sm|Dabuz}} and even {{Sm|Light}}. This in turn, makes Mario agreed to be a high tier. While there is not an official tier list, general consensus is Mario is a top 20 contender. | ||
*{{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}} was initally seen as potentially one of the worst characters in the game, due to his best tools being weakened or removed from ''Smash 4'', including his up aerial - removing his "Toot-Toot" KO confirm - up smash having less invincibility frames, and a new forward air that lacked priority and was heavily punishable. As a result, his representation initially was worse than his already sub-par representation in ''Smash 4''. However, dedicated mains such as {{Sm|Snickeldorf}}, {{Sm|Widget}}, and most notably {{Sm|Maister}} were able to slowly gain more recognizable results as time went on; Maister especially was able to consistently place highly at national-level tournaments, such as 3rd at {{Trn|Smash Factor 8}} and 5th at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2019}}. Furthermore, players realized that Mr. Game & Watch had more strengths than previously perceived: [[Fire]] is considered to be one of the best [[out of shield]] options in the game, and his disjointed down smash can now bury opponents when sweetspotted, allowing for a KO confirm at high percents. This allowed Mr. Game & Watch to be seen as a potential high-tier character in the current metagame. | |||
==See also== | ==See also== |