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==Sin & Punishment== | |||
I heard that the "Sin & Punishment" AT was actually the main character, and a male. I think his name was Saki or something? We need to get proof of this. | I heard that the "Sin & Punishment" AT was actually the main character, and a male. I think his name was Saki or something? We need to get proof of this. | ||
==Little Mac== | |||
Since Little Mac has been confirmed, shouldn't we delete the link of 1up.com? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Infested Terran|Infested Terran]] ([[User talk:Infested Terran|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Infested Terran|contribs]]) </small> | Since Little Mac has been confirmed, shouldn't we delete the link of 1up.com? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Infested Terran|Infested Terran]] ([[User talk:Infested Terran|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Infested Terran|contribs]]) </small> | ||
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Yes we only need to change it to Little Mac page at dojo. also sing your post with four tildes (~ ~ ~ ~ ). --[[User:Fandangox|Fandangox]] 12:19, October 28, 2007 (EDT) | Yes we only need to change it to Little Mac page at dojo. also sing your post with four tildes (~ ~ ~ ~ ). --[[User:Fandangox|Fandangox]] 12:19, October 28, 2007 (EDT) | ||
==Assist Trophy Tier List== | |||
More of an idea than anything else, but wouldn't an assist trophy tier list be interesting? | More of an idea than anything else, but wouldn't an assist trophy tier list be interesting? | ||
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:No, because he's [http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/items/assist/assist14.html clearly labeled as Mario universe] in Brawl. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:33, 16 May 2014 (EDT) | :No, because he's [http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/items/assist/assist14.html clearly labeled as Mario universe] in Brawl. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:33, 16 May 2014 (EDT) | ||
m****a now I find that uv remains mario is a pity that did not change to uv wario which has more good future I think, it is also a shame that it is discarded as a fighter would have similar attacks to luigi and wario some own attacks. [[Special:Contributions/37.14.119.249|37.14.119.249]] 20:09, 13 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Chunky? == | == Chunky? == | ||
Seen a rumor going around saying Chunky Kong from DK64 is an Assist Trophy in the demo, but I haven't been able to find any footage to confirm it. Anyone else seen any? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:50, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | Seen a rumor going around saying Chunky Kong from DK64 is an Assist Trophy in the demo, but I haven't been able to find any footage to confirm it. Anyone else seen any? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:50, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | ||
Very interesting. Where did you hear this rumor? --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 19:38, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
:I don't remember which sites in particular, but I remember it being on at least two plus I heard about it from several of my friends over Skype, too. Sounds like it was more widespread than just one person claiming it. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:01, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
::That's incredible! However, we need photographic evidence of it. For now, let's put this in the rumor section if this is so widespread. --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 20:08, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::We can't. Unfortunately (and no offense to Miles), Skype conversations [that aren't recorded] aren't credible and Miles doesn't have any links to said "rumors." Like Rudy the Clown, Chunky Kong lost his relevance in 2000 (every other character from DK64 has appeared in some capacity in later games), so I doubt he's going to appear anyway. <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 20:14, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
::::Didn't say it should be on the rumors page, nor that my conversations were a credible source. I just was asking if anybody had spotted him in footage, was all. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:16, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::::Hopefully, someone did. If so many people were talking about it, chances are there is plenty of room for credibility. --[[User:EpicWendigo|EpicWendigo]] ([[User talk:EpicWendigo|talk]]) 21:17, 16 June 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Duster, Rosalina and Muddy Mole == | |||
On Smashboards I saw a bunch of guys suggesting that maybe there is some extra data on the second layer of the Brawl disc. No one has ever cracked that layer, which may hold some insight into more scrapped elements of Brawl, and may even have evidence of the three rumored ATs. Something to think about perhaps. [[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 12:02, 3 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
:I find this highly unlikely, especially the claim that the second layer is uncracked (I thought that's were all the SSE files were). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Wacko 12:26, 3 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Unlisted SSB4 (3DS) Assist Trophy == | |||
This is mentioned in the tips section of the European demo: | |||
:Assist Trophy: Ghosts | |||
:"Pinky will try to catch her target out by getting in front and ambushing them. Clyde doesn't have a target - he just does whatever he likes." [[User:Torchickens|Torchickens]] ([[User talk:Torchickens|talk]]) 20:06, 12 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
Update: I got another hint with the same title but with different text: | |||
:"Blinky will take the shortest route possible to reach his target. Inky comes in from the opposite side and moves much more randomly." [[User:Torchickens|Torchickens]] ([[User talk:Torchickens|talk]]) 20:09, 12 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
And another.. | |||
:"Blinky, Inky, Pinky and Clyde will all appear on the stage! They each have their own movement patterns and will hurt opponents who touch them." [[User:Torchickens|Torchickens]] ([[User talk:Torchickens|talk]]) 20:16, 12 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::That's listed on the page as [[Ghosts]]. What exactly is the problem? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:15, 13 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::No problem. I wrote that comment in September before the game was released and before it was added to the page. [[User:Torchickens|Torchickens]] ([[User talk:Torchickens|talk]]) 17:10, 15 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
==Wii U exclusives?== | |||
Anyone know what they are yet? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 16:13, 21 November 2014 (EST) | |||
:Apparently, there aren't any. :/ [[Special:Contributions/68.119.28.72|68.119.28.72]] 21:13, 22 November 2014 (EST) | |||
== So artistic. == | |||
So...does anyone know if there's official art for Smash 4 assist trophies (like there was for Brawl)? [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 14:41, 28 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
:There doesn't appear to be any. One of the downsides of the format of the current site is that not a lot besides characters get their own pages, and no art is the result. The Wii U trophies are the closest we have, even though some are obviously recycled official artwork poses like other trophies sometimes are (e.g. Dark Samus). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:19, 28 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
::That's a shame. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 16:04, 28 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Regarding updating the page for Ultimate == | |||
I was thinking to give the more technical people assistance with redeveloping this page to accommodate the ATs that have been confirmed via the Nintendo Direct at E3 on 12 June 2018 and the subsequent invitational tournament and Nintendo Treehouse discussions on the same day. | |||
New Assist Trophies (confirmed) | |||
*Bomberman (Bomberman) | |||
*Sukapon (Joy Mech Fight) | |||
*Rodin (Bayonetta) | |||
*Burrowing Snagret (Pikmin) | |||
*Krystal (Star Fox) | |||
*Arcade Bunny (Nintendo Badge Arcade) | |||
*Squid Sisters (Splatoon) | |||
New Assist Trophies (speculated) | |||
*Knuckles the Echidna | |||
Returning Assist Trophies | |||
*Waluigi (Super Mario) | |||
*Metroid (Metroid) | |||
*Lyn (Fire Emblem) | |||
*Samurai Goroh (F-Zero) | |||
*Nintendog (Nintendogs) (NOTE: French Poodle version this time) | |||
*Andross (Star Fox) | |||
*Jeff (EarthBound) | |||
*Starman (EarthBound) | |||
*Starfy (The Legend of Starfy) | |||
*Ghosts (PAC-MAN) | |||
*Hammer Bro (Super Mario) | |||
*Color TV Game 15 | |||
*Knuckle Joe (Kirby) | |||
*Midna (The Legend of Zelda) | |||
*Mother Brain (Metroid) | |||
*Riki (Xenoblade Chronicles) | |||
*Takamaru (The Mysterious Murasame Castle) | |||
Credit actually belongs to the Mario Wiki: https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Smash_Bros._Ultimate#Assist_Trophies | |||
[[User:JDogindy|JDogindy]] ([[User talk:JDogindy|talk]]) 14:29, 13 June 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Completely consolidating the tables == | |||
So any of y'all who've been watching this page over the past few weeks will have noticed I've been making a cross-game table and have just copied the descriptions into it. | |||
My ultimate plan for all of this is to make it so that this article only ''has'' one table , because there's a lot of repeated information that I think is really unnecessary. | |||
What I'd like your opinion on is how to proceed with the rest of the consolidation. Right now, the only thing that the individual tables have that the cross-game table doesn't are the relative frequencies and whether an AT can be defeated or not. I'm not entirely certain how we could fit this information into the main table, so I'd be willing to listen to every suggestion y'all got. [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 23:34, 11 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Attacking Assist Trophies == | |||
I'm curious, was there any proof that Color TV Game-15 could be defeated and vice versa with Sheriff? [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">Mario</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="green">is</font>]]<span style="font-family":KristenITC font size:10pt>[[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="indigo">awesome</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="iceblue">118</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 15:42, 18 July 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Attacking Assists isn't new in Ultimate == | |||
I don't know how many people actually know this, but a good amount of Assist Trophies could actually be attacked in Smash 4. | |||
So we should add the "Defeatable" ascension to the Smash 4 section, as well. | |||
Since there are some that can't be defeated, but can be stunned (Such as Ghirahim and Phosphora), I think there should be a separate ascension called "Attackable". | |||
Unfortunately, because this fact is so poorly known, there's next-to-no videos about the Assist Trophies being defeated in Smash 4, so it's gonna be hard to find out who's defeatable or not. [[User:SuperSmashTurtles|SuperSmashTurtles]] ([[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|talk]]) 18:09, 1 August 2018 (EDT) | |||
:: Never mind. It actually says that Ghirahim and Phosphora CAN be defeated. I still think we should add the "Defeatable" ascension to the Smash 4 section, though. [[User:SuperSmashTurtles|SuperSmashTurtles]] ([[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|talk]]) 18:19, 1 August 2018 (EDT) | |||
==Direct revealed a few more== | |||
The list was updated to include Shovel Knight, but we still need stuff for Alucard, Nikki, and Rathalos. And I am not the person to do that.[[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 11:57, 8 August 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 | |||
== Render Rip y/n? == | |||
Comparing the two renders side by side, they appear to be very similar but with a small couple of changes. Not sure if this is just ingame or just the website having a better quality render. Should we just merge it off as "from Super Smash Bros. 4 and Super Smash Bros. Ultimate" or should we push to rip it from the website? | |||
[[File:SSB4AssistTrophyComparison.png|thumb|Ingame from SSB4 compared to the website render from SSBU, they look similar.]] [[User:Vespacito|Vespacito]] ([[User talk:Vespacito|talk]]) 06:33, 3 November 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Those Compilation Images.... == | |||
They look like they're fan made. Should they even be allowed to be on this page? [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">Mario</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="green">is</font>]]<span style="font-family":KristenITC font size:10pt>[[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="indigo">awesome</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="iceblue">118</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 23:18, July 8, 2019 (EDT) | |||
Even if they ''are'' official, they're still just collected and repurposed official art. If their legitimacy is even remotely in question, I don't see why they should be on the page. [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 00:47, July 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:My problem with the images is that, no offense, but they're not really "aesthetically-pleasing" to look at. I definitely prefer the one used for ''Brawl's'' Assists: Just a white background, none of the characters overlap each other, and they're artwork is completely unchanged. [[User:SuperSmashTurtles|SuperSmashTurtles]] ([[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|talk]]) 01:05, July 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::Images are now removed, for obvious reasons. [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">Mario</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="green">is</font>]]<span style="font-family":KristenITC font size:10pt>[[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="indigo">awesome</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="iceblue">118</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 21:11, July 11, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Hammer Bro Info Sheet == | |||
I know he is also an enemy, but other enemy assist trophies like Chain Chomp and Lakitu have an info sheet and Ridley and Ganon only have info sheets because Ridley’s playable and Ganon’s A Final Smash, so why not give Hammer Bro a character sheet because he’s an assist trophy? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 16:33, August 20, 2019 (EDT) | |||