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::It's been discussed to death because it's something that should be changed. I don't imagine it will stop being discussed until it is changed. You can't just ignore these discussions and arguments until they go away by saying it's already been discussed. Even other wikis, [https://www.mariowiki.com/Hero such as this one], have it labeled and worded correctly, so this is obviously something to do with the mods on this wiki either being too stubborn to change it or not actually having knowledge on Dragon Quest/being misinformed about it. The name of the DQ11 Hero is "Eleven" because that is his default name. And he is also broadly known by the title of "Luminary" because that is what the English localization team at Square Enix decided to translate "Hero" to in the West this time around unlike the previous games. He's still obviously known as the "Hero" in Japan instead of the "Luminary." The name of the DQ3 Hero is "Arusu" because that is what he is referred to in the opening of the DQ3 remake. And he is also broadly known by the title of "Erdrick" because that is the title he is given at the end of DQ3. The name of the DQ4 Hero is "Solo" and the name of the DQ8 Hero is "Eight" because those are their default names. The same as Eleven. So why is Eleven mainly referred to as the Luminary? Eleven should be called Eleven for the same reasons Solo and Eight are called Solo and Eight. It should say something like "Eleven, also referred to as the Luminary." And for Arusu, it should say something like "Arusu, also known by the title of Erdrick" or maybe just "Arusu, also known as Erdrick." The name "Arusu" is literally taken from the opening of the DQ3 remake after all. It's like no amount of proof and evidence would ever convince you guys. What more do you want? For it to literally come out of Sakurai's mouth and for it to literally be in the games? Oh wait.... --[[Special:Contributions/73.71.161.160|73.71.161.160]] 18:19, August 8, 2019 (EDT) | ::It's been discussed to death because it's something that should be changed. I don't imagine it will stop being discussed until it is changed. You can't just ignore these discussions and arguments until they go away by saying it's already been discussed. Even other wikis, [https://www.mariowiki.com/Hero such as this one], have it labeled and worded correctly, so this is obviously something to do with the mods on this wiki either being too stubborn to change it or not actually having knowledge on Dragon Quest/being misinformed about it. The name of the DQ11 Hero is "Eleven" because that is his default name. And he is also broadly known by the title of "Luminary" because that is what the English localization team at Square Enix decided to translate "Hero" to in the West this time around unlike the previous games. He's still obviously known as the "Hero" in Japan instead of the "Luminary." The name of the DQ3 Hero is "Arusu" because that is what he is referred to in the opening of the DQ3 remake. And he is also broadly known by the title of "Erdrick" because that is the title he is given at the end of DQ3. The name of the DQ4 Hero is "Solo" and the name of the DQ8 Hero is "Eight" because those are their default names. The same as Eleven. So why is Eleven mainly referred to as the Luminary? Eleven should be called Eleven for the same reasons Solo and Eight are called Solo and Eight. It should say something like "Eleven, also referred to as the Luminary." And for Arusu, it should say something like "Arusu, also known by the title of Erdrick" or maybe just "Arusu, also known as Erdrick." The name "Arusu" is literally taken from the opening of the DQ3 remake after all. It's like no amount of proof and evidence would ever convince you guys. What more do you want? For it to literally come out of Sakurai's mouth and for it to literally be in the games? Oh wait.... --[[Special:Contributions/73.71.161.160|73.71.161.160]] 18:19, August 8, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:We are different from other wikis, as other wikis do not cover the community aspect of their franchise as much as we do. Competitive Smash and the fans that have come out of both the competitive and casual side are an important part of the history of the franchise as a whole. As a result, we take into consideration how the fans know a term, and, should it be more popular than an official term, then we take priority over that rather than the official term. | |||
:In this regard, literally '''no one''' that I know (personally) who either knows what ''Dragon Quest'' is or is a fan of ''Dragon Quest'' calls III's Hero "Arusu". Eleven's a mixed bag, because he's called both (Japanese fans call heroes by their number to differentiate them, but he is called "Luminary" over here), but Arusu is such an obscure name (wasn't it only used in the drama CD? I don't know) that '''no one calls him by it'''. I don't know why Sakurai used it, but that may be related to the fact that Erdrick is a title, rather than a name, but Erdrick is still given to the player at the end of DQIII. And remakes can change anything they want to, so I don't see why you keep citing it. | |||
:Solo and Eight are called that because Solo matches the fan name, the official name, and the one given by Sakurai; Eight does as well, though "Eight" isn't as official since it's the same as fans calling each hero by number rather than a name. | |||
:Also, none of the Heroes are named in Smash. Not in the tips, not by Fighter Spirits, not by anything. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:37, August 8, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Edit what happens when Hero hits a ceiling when using Zoom == | == Edit what happens when Hero hits a ceiling when using Zoom == | ||