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==Greninja's Alts may have origins==
==Greninja's alts==
Greninja's pink costume resembles Lickitung.
Greninja's pink costume resembles Lickitung.
Greninja's black costume somewhat resembles a shiny Greninja, but with a yellow underside of the face and stomach, and an orange tongue.
Greninja's black costume somewhat resembles a shiny Greninja, but with a yellow underside of the face and stomach, and an orange tongue.
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::::Yeah, but they were both introduced in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', when the characters were better differentiated physically and mechanically. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:46, 24 December 2018 (EST)
::::Yeah, but they were both introduced in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', when the characters were better differentiated physically and mechanically. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 12:46, 24 December 2018 (EST)


==Dark Samus's Black costume==
==Dark Samus's black costume==


I believe there is an inconsistency with the current "Origin" of Dark Samus's Black Alt Color. Currently, the description of the Black suit is listed as "Resembles Orange Phazon from Metroid Prime." Although the original editor of this fact may have been on to something, they needed to go just a little bit further into the Lore of Metroid Prime to find the real origin.
I believe there is an inconsistency with the current "Origin" of Dark Samus's Black Alt Color. Currently, the description of the Black suit is listed as "Resembles Orange Phazon from Metroid Prime." Although the original editor of this fact may have been on to something, they needed to go just a little bit further into the Lore of Metroid Prime to find the real origin.
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:However, I will point out that this specific black/orange color palette is never actually used in-game. The Metroid Prime's "default" color scheme appears to be black/silver, as seen in the Metroid Prime's intro cutscene and in its ''Brawl'' trophy. During the battle, it switches to yellow, white, red, and/or purple, but never orange. As I said, we are already citing concept art for the silver costume, so it doesn't hurt your argument too much, but it does mean that this color scheme (existing only in artwork, not in-game) is a little more obscure than the in-game Orange Phazon. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 11:30, 24 December 2018 (EST)
:However, I will point out that this specific black/orange color palette is never actually used in-game. The Metroid Prime's "default" color scheme appears to be black/silver, as seen in the Metroid Prime's intro cutscene and in its ''Brawl'' trophy. During the battle, it switches to yellow, white, red, and/or purple, but never orange. As I said, we are already citing concept art for the silver costume, so it doesn't hurt your argument too much, but it does mean that this color scheme (existing only in artwork, not in-game) is a little more obscure than the in-game Orange Phazon. --[[User:PeabodySam|PeabodySam]] ([[User talk:PeabodySam|talk]]) 11:30, 24 December 2018 (EST)


== Incineroar, Sheik, Marth, and other costumes ==
==Other alts==


I know the page currently lists Big the Cat as the inspiration for Incineroar's purple alt, but I'm seeing some edit reverting previous claims. Many costumes in Smash Ultimate have major value changes, and they're almost always based on something. Not only are Incineroar and Big both felines, but The Big the Cat spirit fight uses this alt as well. Also, if some comments are disputing the Infernape connection due to the grey fur, shouldn't we do the same for its shiny alt? I mean, both greys are much darker than the actual shiny coloration.
I know the page currently lists Big the Cat as the inspiration for Incineroar's purple alt, but I'm seeing some edit reverting previous claims. Many costumes in Smash Ultimate have major value changes, and they're almost always based on something. Not only are Incineroar and Big both felines, but The Big the Cat spirit fight uses this alt as well. Also, if some comments are disputing the Infernape connection due to the grey fur, shouldn't we do the same for its shiny alt? I mean, both greys are much darker than the actual shiny coloration.
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Also in my opinion,  Incineroar’s black and Grey is Mightyena, especially since hyena’s are apparently closer to cats than dogs [[User:Shawksta|Shawksta]] ([[User talk:Shawksta|talk]]) 04:28, 25 December 2018 (EST)
Also in my opinion,  Incineroar’s black and Grey is Mightyena, especially since hyena’s are apparently closer to cats than dogs [[User:Shawksta|Shawksta]] ([[User talk:Shawksta|talk]]) 04:28, 25 December 2018 (EST)
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Bowser's pink alt is almost certainly based off of Bowletta from Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga.
Captain Falcon's green alt resembles the Wild Goose, his gold alt the Golden Fox. His cyan alt resembles Rick Wheeler, his successor.
Dr. Mario's red, blue, green, and yellow alts represent the 4 viruses in his games; the first three being the colors of real nurses, doctors, and surgeons could simply be coincidental.
Falco's pink alt references Katt Monroe, his implied romantic interest.
Fox's orange alt is based on Falco's earlier outfits.
Ganondorf's violet alt could represent Yuga from A Link Between Worlds, his white skin possibly representing Ganon.
Ice Climbers's green/yellow alt resembles some of the vegetables from their game.
Luigi's blue alt seems to resemble his appearance in an obscure Japanese-only TV show, his yellow art representing his Atari XE model.
Marth's red and green alts reference Cain and Abel.
Mewtwo's brown alt could reference its original in-game appearance due to the Game Boy's limited colors, with its pink alt referencing early art.
Mr. Game & Watch's red, green, and blue alts could reference later Game & Watch models that could represent these three colors along with purple (which is obviously not an alt).
Peach's gold alt represents the rather aptly named Gold Peach, and the black alt could represent the Shadow Queen from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, with some creative liberties for each of course.
Samus's black alt could reference Kanden from Metroid Prime: Hunters.
Sheik's white alt is almost certainly based on Impa.
Young Link's pink, blue, and orange alts could simply represent Breath of the Wild's dye system, although this is a loose connection. --[[User:Grapevine|Grapevine]] ([[User talk:Grapevine|talk]]) 19:36, 25 December 2018 (EST)
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