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== Monkey Flip == | == Monkey Flip == | ||
Monkey Flip was shown several times during the direct. Whether the kick or grab accompany it I am not sure, but he very clearly does the flip animation. I'll watch it again to see if I catch him kicking or grabbing an opponent. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; font-size:10pt">[[User:Johnnywellens|<span style="color:forestgreen">JohnnyWellens</span>]]</span> [[Image: SonicHeadSSB4- | Monkey Flip was shown several times during the direct. Whether the kick or grab accompany it I am not sure, but he very clearly does the flip animation. I'll watch it again to see if I catch him kicking or grabbing an opponent. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS; font-size:10pt">[[User:Johnnywellens|<span style="color:forestgreen">JohnnyWellens</span>]]</span> [[Image: SonicHeadSSB4-3.png ]] 20:56, 13 May 2014 (EDT) | ||
== Overall nerf? == | |||
Initially, Diddy Kong was considered to be well buffed from Brawl due to his powerful combo abilities and racking up damage. However, being an Diddy Kong player myself, it is sad to see him get significantly nerfed in patch 1.0.8 after another heavy (but not as bad) nerf from the previous patch 1.0.6, which basically means that he was weakened so badly that his viability may not be dominate as he used to be in Brawl and before patch 1.0.8 (or patch 1.0.6; depends on how you look at it), where he could drop from top tier ranking somwhere in the top 4 to now middle tier at the very least 28th. I feel like that this now considers him as a nerfed character from Brawl. What would you guys say? [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Reaper 02:37, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:As a Diddy player myself, I think saying he's middle tier is a bit of an overreaction, and claiming he's 28th is even more ludicrous. I'm pretty certain that he's still Top 15 at worst (at least high tier), but yes, 1.0.8 Diddy could be considered to be nerfed in comparison to his ''Brawl'' form. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 03:02, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:At least tournaments won't be as much of a Diddypocalypse as usual [[User:73MPL4R|'''<span style="color:#857363">73MPL4R</span>''']][[User talk:73MPL4R|'''<span style="color:#505050"> Only the dead have seen the end of war</span>''']] 08:56, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
::I remember a friend telling me his friend was complaining because he actually had to work to win with Diddy <s><small>(whiny little bitch)</small></s> so there's definitely some nerfing going around... [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 08:59, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::And to make me really sad, Diddy Kong is pretty much the nerfing traget of Sakurai as of right now if ZeRo keeps on winning with him, every other character got massive buffs for the weaker character or didn't change for the ones considered top tier as of right now. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Gangnum Style 10:55, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Something needs to be straightened out. == | |||
I feel like putting <nowiki>{{tone}}</nowiki> up top of everything (especially without a summary on the tag) makes it seem vague and may confuse editors. This page, in particular, confuses me for its tag. Explanation? [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: black;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: orange;">'''The TERRIFYING Evil Clone'''</span>]] 17:16, 30 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
:"surprisingly decent", references to "tiers" in SSB4 (see [[SW:TONE]]), and inconsistent presentation of Diddy's status regarding popularity and buffs/nerfs. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:29, 30 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Well, "surprisingly decent" is supposed to represent how Diddy's reach is surprising for a character of his size. I'll get on the case anyway. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: black;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: orange;">'''The TERRIFYING Evil Clone'''</span>]] 18:01, 30 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Was Diddy really nerfed THAT much? == | |||
I think these nerfs may be a little overstated. Obviously, he was nerfed a lot, but other than uair and d-throw, was anything really nerfed that bad? 1.0.6 and 1.0.8 are really the only updates that nerfed him. Does anyone here think he wasn't nerfed overall from ''Brawl'' to ''SSB4'', and would be better to use "heavily" instead of "significantly" for the patch changes? Also, what should we say about Sheik? I guess we will see her results. Diddy still has great results. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 12:41, 24 March 2016 (EDT) | |||
:I think he wasn't significantly nerfed overall between Brawl and Sm4sh, too. However, isn't the connotation of "heavily" more heavy-handed (pun unintended) than that of "significantly"? [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:21, 24 March 2016 (EDT) | |||
::I always though when we use "heavily", it means it isn't as buffed as "significantly". He definitely wasn't significantly nerf from ''Brawl'' to ''SSB4''. I am wondering if anyone here thinks he wasn't nerfed overall. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:22, 24 March 2016 (EDT) | |||
=="One of the best combo abilities in the game"== | |||
The "Attributes" section of the articles claims that diddy kong has "one of the best combo abilities in the game", which is just patently false. I've played a lot of diddy, and his longest true combos end after 3 or so hits. He doesn't have anything close to mario, ryu or bayo combos. In fact his comboing ability is soundly in the mediocre category. [[Special:Contributions/75.80.150.109|75.80.150.109]] 15:44, 28 August 2017 (EDT) | |||
== Ally == | |||
<s>I feel like Ally can be here. Because he has good wins over player like Nairo , 6wx , Nakat etc. [[User:NaughtyPigMario|[[User:Example|<span style="color: red;">'''GRAND DAD'''</span>]] [[User talk:Example|''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>'']]]] ([[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|talk]]) 01:49, 2 July 2018 (EDT)</s> | |||