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Due to its perceived overpowering potential, Wobbling has been a controversial technique within the ''Melee'' community, and there is debate over whether or not the technique should be banned. [[Stalling]] is universally banned when done to explicitly delay tournaments, and as such, wobbling performed past a [[percent]] which guarantees a kill (usually 300 percent) is always forbidden.
Due to its perceived overpowering potential, Wobbling has been a controversial technique within the ''Melee'' community, and there is debate over whether or not the technique should be banned. [[Stalling]] is universally banned when done to explicitly delay tournaments, and as such, wobbling performed past a [[percent]] which guarantees a kill (usually 300 percent) is always forbidden.


Supporters of a full ban claim that the technique is too powerful, as it is inescapable and almost always leads to a KO. They argue that wobbling's guaranteed stock loss punishes opponents too severely for making small mistakes, and forces opponents into a playstyle of avoiding the grab at all costs, which creates frustrating and overcentralizing gameplay. Supporters of a ban also note that there are other ways for the Ice Climbers to punish off a grab, such as their hand-off [[chain grab]]s, which are only a true infinite when done near the edge of the stage (due to the CPU AI's throw behavior); they are more difficult to perform and have a higher chance of being dropped due to a misinput by the performer. They also claim that Wobbling is an uninteresting technique to watch in matches, potentially deterring spectators from wanting to view streamed matches where wobbling is taking place.  
Supporters of a full ban claim that the technique is too powerful, as it is inescapable and almost always leads to a KO. They argue that wobbling's guaranteed stock loss punishes opponents too severely for making small mistakes, and forces opponents into a playstyle of avoiding the grab at all costs, which creates frustrating and overcentralizing gameplay. Supporters of a ban also note that there are other ways for the Ice Climbers to punish off a grab, such as their hand-off [[chain grab]]s, which are more difficult to perform and have a higher chance of being dropped due to a misinput by the performer. They also claim that Wobbling is an uninteresting technique to watch in matches, potentially deterring spectators from wanting to view streamed matches where wobbling is taking place.  


Opponents of a ban claim that Wobbling is a legitimate tactic, acting no different from other zero-to-death combos, such as {{SSBM|Fox}}'s [[shine spike]] at the edge, {{SSBM|Marth}}'s {{Mvsub|Marth|SSBM|back throw}} to {{Mvsub|Marth|SSBM|down tilt}} edgeguard on the space animals, and {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}'s {{Mvsub|Jigglypuff|SSBM|up throw}} to [[Rest]] combo on the space animals. As Wobbling itself requires falling into the Ice Climbers' below-average grab range, they argue that consistently being Wobbled or losing matches solely to Wobbling also reflects poor fundamental play and [[matchup]] experience. Opponents of the ban also argue that Wobbling compensates for the many weaknesses that the Ice Climbers have at top-level play, such as their poor aerial combat, and that all characters,  Ice Climbers included, should be allowed to have as many advantages as possible to succeed. They point out that Wobbling can allow for upsets to occur in tournaments, and improves character diversity at top-level play (for example, by improving {{SSBM|Peach}}'s tournament viability, as she is considered the hardest [[counter (matchup)|counter]] to the Ice Climbers). At {{Trn|EVO 2013}}, for instance, Wobbles defeated several top-level players en route to a second-place finish, including {{sm|Lord}}, {{sm|Shroomed}}, {{sm|PPMD}}, {{sm|Hungrybox}}, and {{Sm|Mango}}.
Opponents of a ban claim that Wobbling is a legitimate tactic, acting no different from other zero-to-death combos, such as {{SSBM|Fox}}'s [[shine spike]] at the edge, {{SSBM|Marth}}'s {{Mvsub|Marth|SSBM|back throw}} to {{Mvsub|Marth|SSBM|down tilt}} edgeguard on the space animals, and {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}'s {{Mvsub|Jigglypuff|SSBM|up throw}} to [[Rest]] combo on the space animals. As Wobbling itself requires falling into the Ice Climbers' below-average grab range, they argue that consistently being Wobbled or losing matches solely to Wobbling also reflects poor fundamental play and [[matchup]] experience. Opponents of the ban also argue that Wobbling compensates for the many weaknesses that the Ice Climbers have at top-level play, such as their poor aerial combat, and that all characters,  Ice Climbers included, should be allowed to have as many advantages as possible to succeed. They point out that Wobbling can allow for upsets to occur in tournaments, and improves character diversity at top-level play (for example, by improving {{SSBM|Peach}}'s tournament viability, as she is considered the hardest [[counter (matchup)|counter]] to the Ice Climbers). At {{Trn|EVO 2013}}, for instance, Wobbles defeated several top-level players en route to a second-place finish, including {{sm|Lord}}, {{sm|Shroomed}}, {{sm|PPMD}}, {{sm|Hungrybox}}, and {{Sm|Mango}}.
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In early 2019, the pro-ban movement gradually began to take off as local and regional tournament scenes began banning wobbling at their events. On February 8th, 2019, the Tennessee Smash Community made a reddit post announcing that wobbling would be banned at tournaments in several Tennessee cities. The official ruleset limited the Ice Climbers, upon grabbing the opponent, to eight separate attacks before regrabbing; violating these rules would result in a warning, game loss, or set loss at the tournament organizer's discretion.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/aohjcq/tennessee_wobbling_ban_official_post/|title=Tennessee Wobbling Ban: Official Post}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/anz3xs/wobbling_has_been_banned_in_tennessee_we_hope/|title=Wobbling has been banned in Tennessee. We hope many more will follow suit}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://tempostorm.com/articles/wobbling-issue-recap|title=The Wobbling Issue: A Recap}}</ref> As news of the ban spread around the ''Melee'' community, other regions began announcing their own bans of various degrees, including Georgia,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/dow3qt/georgia_bans_wobbling/|title=Georgia Bans Wobbling}}</ref> [[Maryland/Virginia]],<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/aug2fu/mdva_votes_on_wobbling_ban_implementation/|title=MD/VA Votes on Wobbling Ban Implementation}}</ref> Mississippi,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/av7r8m/mississippi_partially_bans_wobbling/|title=Mississippi partially bans wobbling}}</ref> Chicago,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/cyxike/chicago_has_banned_wobbling_explanation_in/|title=Chicago has banned wobbling (Explanation in comments)}}</ref> and the United Kingdom.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/fej41p/wobbling_has_been_banned_in_the_united_kingdom/|title=Wobbling has been banned in the United Kingdom}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/aq38wo/usa_wobble_map/|title=USA Wobble Map}}</ref>  
In early 2019, the pro-ban movement gradually began to take off as local and regional tournament scenes began banning wobbling at their events. On February 8th, 2019, the Tennessee Smash Community made a reddit post announcing that wobbling would be banned at tournaments in several Tennessee cities. The official ruleset limited the Ice Climbers, upon grabbing the opponent, to eight separate attacks before regrabbing; violating these rules would result in a warning, game loss, or set loss at the tournament organizer's discretion.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/aohjcq/tennessee_wobbling_ban_official_post/|title=Tennessee Wobbling Ban: Official Post}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/anz3xs/wobbling_has_been_banned_in_tennessee_we_hope/|title=Wobbling has been banned in Tennessee. We hope many more will follow suit}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://tempostorm.com/articles/wobbling-issue-recap|title=The Wobbling Issue: A Recap}}</ref> As news of the ban spread around the ''Melee'' community, other regions began announcing their own bans of various degrees, including Georgia,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/dow3qt/georgia_bans_wobbling/|title=Georgia Bans Wobbling}}</ref> [[Maryland/Virginia]],<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/aug2fu/mdva_votes_on_wobbling_ban_implementation/|title=MD/VA Votes on Wobbling Ban Implementation}}</ref> Mississippi,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/av7r8m/mississippi_partially_bans_wobbling/|title=Mississippi partially bans wobbling}}</ref> Chicago,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/cyxike/chicago_has_banned_wobbling_explanation_in/|title=Chicago has banned wobbling (Explanation in comments)}}</ref> and the United Kingdom.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/fej41p/wobbling_has_been_banned_in_the_united_kingdom/|title=Wobbling has been banned in the United Kingdom}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBM/comments/aq38wo/usa_wobble_map/|title=USA Wobble Map}}</ref>  


{{Trn|Get On My Level 2019}} was the first major to officially announce a wobbling ban.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/aqphih/goml_2019_becomes_first_major_tournament_to_ban/|title=GOML 2019 becomes first major tournament to ban wobbling.}}</ref> Throughout 2019 and 2020, various majors announced their own bans of the technique, including {{Trn|Low Tier City 7}},<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/brvvyg/wobbling_will_be_banned_at_ltc7/|title=Wobbling will be banned at LTC7!}}</ref> {{Trn|The Big House 9}},<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/cq1zvw/wobbling_banned_at_tbh9/|title=Wobbling banned at TBH9}}</ref> [[Tournament:Pound Online|Pound 2020]],<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/ew8p1w/wobbling_is_banned_at_pound_2020/|title=Wobbling is banned at Pound 2020}}</ref> and {{Trn|Smash World Tour}}.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/fcilar/smash_world_tour_bans_wobbling/|title=Smash World Tour Bans Wobbling}}</ref> Today, wobbling is banned at most tournaments, although some smaller events may choose to legalize the technique at their own discretion. Ice Climbers now rely on hand-off combos as their main grab punishes; while capable of racking up high amounts of damage, true infinites are only possible near the edge of the stage, nerfing their overall power.
{{Trn|Get On My Level 2019}} was the first major to officially announce a wobbling ban.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/aqphih/goml_2019_becomes_first_major_tournament_to_ban/|title=GOML 2019 becomes first major tournament to ban wobbling.}}</ref> Throughout 2019 and 2020, various majors announced their own bans of the technique, including {{Trn|Low Tier City 7}},<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/brvvyg/wobbling_will_be_banned_at_ltc7/|title=Wobbling will be banned at LTC7!}}</ref> {{Trn|The Big House 9}},<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/cq1zvw/wobbling_banned_at_tbh9/|title=Wobbling banned at TBH9}}</ref> [[Tournament:Pound Online|Pound 2020]],<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/ew8p1w/wobbling_is_banned_at_pound_2020/|title=Wobbling is banned at Pound 2020}}</ref> and {{Trn|Smash World Tour}}.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/fcilar/smash_world_tour_bans_wobbling/|title=Smash World Tour Bans Wobbling}}</ref> Today, wobbling is banned at most tournaments, although some smaller events may choose to legalize the technique at their own discretion.


"Wobbler" is a slang term used to refer to an Ice Climbers player who relies heavily on landing a grab to wobble their opponent.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/NintendudeSSB/status/1318601754662100993|title=Nintendude's "wobbler" tweet}}</ref>
"Wobbler" is a slang term used to refer to an Ice Climbers player who relies heavily on landing a grab to wobble their opponent.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/NintendudeSSB/status/1318601754662100993|title=Nintendude's "wobbler" tweet}}</ref>

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