Editing Template talk:WikiStatusValue

==To elaborate on my last change==
While traffic on the wiki is not out of hand, I find it equally false to say "no new information needs to be added". As a result, the Wiki is in a state between Green and Yellow, where more traffic is desired (through the poor Smasherspace) but traffic has not actually happened. However, if the solution to our out-of-date competitive scope is to try and get more competitive players on this wiki, then we will have to be prepared for greater traffic. That is why I want to keep the status at 5%. This signals that the wiki is out of date, but traffic is not enough to completely shift the status color. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  19:53, 3 September 2012 (EDT)
:I'd also like to note that as low traffic as the wiki may seem, one of the main reasons Omega Tyrant and (to a lesser extent) Korobeniki seem to be around is to help improve the Wiki's competitive scope, and I postulate that they would be much less active if the wiki were completely up-to-date. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  19:55, 3 September 2012 (EDT)
:Ok here is an issue: as OT said, we have little information on the Smasher community as only about three people on this wiki have decent knowledge of the competitive scene. There is no need to be alarmed but if you want to keep it at 5% then I wont oppose. <font style="font-family:arial narrow">[[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Lightning'''</font>]][[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]]</font>[[File:405MS.png|link=Special:Contributions/LightningBlue]] 23:42, 3 September 2012 (EDT)
::While it is true that there aren't many experts on competitive smash on this wiki, I'm sure a fair amount of the lacking knowledge can be completed by any user who just spends a little effort doing the research. For example, I intend to revamp many of the SSB 64 (and hopefully Melee if I get the chance) character articles by looking through smash boards tier and matchup discussions, as well as reliable guides and tournament videos. While the result won't be as high quality as what Omega Tyrant has done with the Brawl articles, it is a start. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  00:06, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

Where is the sign of any increased traffic? Where are the competitive players you speak of coming in? Where is the Wiki actually ''trying'' to get people that are involved in the competitive scene (or actually know something about it)? Your "we will have to prepare for greater traffic" completely lacks any basis. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:49, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
:You both need to start obeying [[SW:1RV]]. That rule exists for a reason. Especially OT, I could care less if you're and admin or think you're above the rules; you aren't. Obey them. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 19:23, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
::The status value is supposed to be immune to 1RV. I will clarify this. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Da Bomb 19:56, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
::Actually look up the page history and don't be an ass, I only made one revert here (which was sufficiently explained).  <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:01, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
:::Funny that the person who tells me to look up the page history is telling me not to be an ass; I did so, and know what went on. You changed the value from 5% to 0%, Anon reverted, and you reverted it back. Before Toomai decided to make this "immune" to 1RV, that violated 1RV. So ''you'' don't be an ass and try to claim I don't know what I'm talking about; this type of thing is precisely why you have lost favor with much of the community. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 22:05, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
::::Yeah, reverting Anon was the first revert I made, which was back to the neutral state, and with sufficient explanation. And you are being an ass, as:

::::1.) No edit warring was going on, and there is a clear talk page discussion going on here, where my point on the revert was never attempted to be refuted by Anon. Going after users for SW:1RV when no real violation was going on is just creating unnecessary drama here.

::::2.) You directly target me in a rude manner, for no real reason other then what I can see to be a personal vendetta. And your statement that I "lost favor with much of the community" is quite ridiculous and is pretty much slander; read my full responses to Emmett on his baseless claims regarding that issue. Some users not liking me for not putting up with their shit and/or calling them out on it does not equal "losing favor with much of the community". <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:35, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
:::To clarify my original revert, the stats page implied that SW:1RV did not apply here, as it gave specific guidelines for reverting reverts. I have conceded this issue to Omega Tyrant and Toomai in any case, and I have no problem with OT's second revert. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  17:51, 5 September 2012 (EDT)
I'm kinda neutral on this one; While some parts of the smasherspace do need to be fixed, I agree with OT; There is no need to increase the value at all. As for the 1RV argument: There isn't any need to continue the argument, since Toomai made this an exception to the rule. [[User:Bandit|<font style='font-family:myriad pro;font-size:13pt;color:hsl(347.75,100%,50%)'>Bandit</font>]] 23:11, 4 September 2012 (EDT)
==Uh==

I tried to categorize this, but I think I broke it somehow. Can someone fix it? I'm not sure how. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#1EA6D4">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#18C4C1">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] -.-- -.-- --..! 10:58, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
:You broke it because the newline between the value and the noinclude beginning was being included. The only way to fix this would be to have the noinclude right up against the number, which would make it harder and riskier to edit. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Spectrum 11:48, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

==To elaborate on my last change (Oh crap, I reused a title, didn't I?)==

I said it ''may'' bring increased traffic; active proposals tend to bring traffic from mostly inactive users so they can vote on it. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:red">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:green">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] Something strange is going on... 15:07, 22 December 2012 (EST)
:So a few not so active users may post something once, which is "increased traffic" how? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:32, 22 December 2012 (EST)
::I thought we were supposed to increase it slightly when a new proposal or something came up. I guess I was wrong. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:red">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:green">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] --.- --.- --..! 17:40, 22 December 2012 (EST)
:::It's supposed to be increased when activity on the Wiki increases and is higher than the listed status amount, and/or a deluge of new Smash information becoming available. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:31, 23 December 2012 (EST)

== Current status ==

People seem to have this conception that higher and higher values while at Red means higher and higher traffic and/or out-of-dateness. This is not supposed to be the case. Red by itself means "high traffic and/or high out-of-dateness". The value only exists to capture a community sentiment to whether the status should be moved down to Yellow - there's no status above Red to raise to, so having any number at all above 0 has no practical purpose except making it more difficult to move back to lower levels. Having these high Red statuses like +100 is basically overhyping and overblowing things, and desensitizing people to what the system is supposed to convey. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Quiet 17:01, 17 November 2014 (EST)
:I disagree. I think a higher red should mean that we're even more out of date than red already implies. As of right now we really aren't out of date (except on Project M) so it's kinda unreasonable that people were still trying to raise it. But previously we've been extremely out of date, and as long as its high people know that they need to get to work on editing. Even with the red, 20% implies that we're actually close to being okay, which we really aren't. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 12:35, 18 November 2014 (EST)
::You misunderstand. Any red, regardless of its number, is not "close to being okay". [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 12:46, 18 November 2014 (EST)
:::Low numbers always give that impression, at least for me. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 14:49, 18 November 2014 (EST)
::::Please remember, Nutta, that the color is red. Red usually means "bad" for statuses. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 16:33, 19 November 2014 (EST)
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 :::Low numbers always give that impression, at least for me. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 14:49, 18 November 2014 (EST)
 ::::Please remember, Nutta, that the color is red. Red usually means "bad" for statuses. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 16:33, 19 November 2014 (EST)
-== Forgot to add my reason but... ==
-it's the same as the last few. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  20:31, 19 July 2015 (EDT)
-== My last change... ==
-didn't finish. It ends with "though the info was revealed somewhat,so..." [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px|Dark Pit]] and [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px|ZSS]] main.  16:25, 3 February 2016 (EST)
-== More detailed reasoning on my insistent lowering of the percentage ==
-Besides the fact that we've already known about these characters for two months and have had footage of them for several days, we also had no problems when Lucas, Roy, and Ryu came out, which was '''three''' characters that needed frame data and such, and of the three two of them we had only known about for a few hours. These three characters were also heavily hyped, whereas there are more people disappointed with Corrinetta than excited for, so we can't expect as much traffic either. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:55, 3 February 2016 (EST)
-:Yeah, it doesn't need to be 80%. It's not like a new game is coming out. 1.0.8 was bigger than this. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 17:05, 3 February 2016 (EST)
-::If I could move it more than 10% I'd put it back to 50. That's high enough that if we ''do'' get an unexpected amount of information (i.e. surprise DLC, or more traffic than usual) we can raise it, but not so ridiculously high for something that probably won't be a big deal. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:15, 3 February 2016 (EST)
-== Blue ==
-Has the wiki ever actually been on Blue before? [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 15:26, 21 July 2016 (EDT)
-: According to the edit history of {{tl|WikiStatus}}, it has not. —[[User:Fenhl|Fenhl]] 15:54, 21 July 2016 (EDT)
-== The NX reveal ==
-I feel like the summary was somewhat unclear and misunderstood, so I want to clarify: I do not believe a new Smash will be shown tomorrow, just that speculation is likely to be added by vandals as was the case for the Final Presentation. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:Black">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 22:01, 19 October 2016 (EDT)
-== Explanation ==
-the number of things to do is currently 2,927 and rising. A horrendous number of pages lack a results table, there are almost 50 outdated pages, a huge number of pages are simply incomplete. There is loads of serious work to be done, and for that reason I'm bumping up the value to -5. There may not be much traffic, but given how much needs doing, there certainly should be. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 11:08, 27 July 2017 (EDT)
-== Edit ==
-Accidentally hit the save button while I was typing the edit summary. Was going to talk about a deleted Tweet from [https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/8my9sd/looks_like_some_youtubers_may_have_been_sent/?st=JHS4OEUX&sh=1df5c03e this reddit post.] [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 13:55, 30 May 2018 (EDT)
-== It happened again ==
-Yes, I accidentally hit Enter while typing the edit summary. What I meant to say was, "Literally only 7 people online right now and we're pretty much in another info drought, like before E3" [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 03:08, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
-:Goddammit. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:26, May 14, 2019 (EDT)
-== Week ==
-It’s been almost a week since the Banjo and Sans DLC came out. [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 22:36, September 10, 2019 (EDT)
-== Protection ==
-On [[SW:SWSS|the SmashWiki Status System page]], it says that anyone can change the wiki status. However, when I tried to change the wiki status, it said the page is semi-protected. Can someone either edit [[SW:SWSS]] or, if an admin sees this, unprotect the page?
-Thanks,
-[[User:SSBU Boi|SSBU Boi]] ([[User talk:SSBU Boi|talk]]) 13:37, December 8, 2020 (EST)
-:By how much do you want it changed? And I agree, the System Page is a bit misleading in that way. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="font-family: Lithograph"><span style="color: #0123A8">'''BANjO-'''</span><span style="color: #FF1901">'''KAZOOiE'''</span></span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 16:35, December 8, 2020 (EST)
-== Sephiroth Reveal ==
-Sadly, I am not [[SW:AUTO|autoconfirmed]], so I cannot edit the status. Sephiroth was just revealed, and the wiki is somehow in Yellow still. Ummmmm... [[User:SSBU Boi|SSBU Boi]] ([[User talk:SSBU Boi|talk]]) 22:58, December 11, 2020 (EST)
-:The wiki didn't go red for Min Min, Byleth, or anyone else if I recall. It is only a handful of pages that are under load. I think red is more for dozens of pages need serious attention, however I've not been around to see it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 23:05, December 11, 2020 (EST)
-::Very good point. However, there is an entire moveset, a new stage coming soon, probably new music, new spirits, and a fighter ability. Keep in mind that each special needs 2 pages(hitboxes and move page), and that others still require a hitbox page. Mama mia... [[User:SSBU Boi|SSBU Boi]] ([[User talk:SSBU Boi|talk]]) 23:42, December 11, 2020 (EST)
-:::And the same happened with the other DLC fighters, the last to go red was Banjo & Kazooie. I remember it went up to +60 for Steve and it stayed yellow. I like to think that the admins have more trust in us to keep things from breaking and to limit our own userpage edits, as evidenced by several editors keeping up with the high traffic pages. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 23:59, December 11, 2020 (EST)
-It's not just the amount of new content but also the general activity of the wiki. Even though we're getting new releases edits are still able to be kept track of right now, so whether it goes to red or not doesn't matter much. '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">Omegɑ</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">Toɑd</font>]]''' [[File:Toad.png|20px]] 00:07, December 12, 2020 (EST)
-I just do not think I understand the status thing, thanks guys. [[User:SSBU Boi|SSBU Boi]] ([[User talk:SSBU Boi|talk]]) 00:35, December 12, 2020 (EST)
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