Editing Talk:Zero Suit Samus (SSB4)



== Bracelets ==

Probably augment her fist attacks? [[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 13:57, 21 September 2014 (EDT)

Bump. [[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 18:56, 11 October 2014 (EDT)
:<s>I wouldn't go into detail on it, probably just a model thing.</s> I noticed it's mentioned on the page that we don't know what their for, but I don't think we should mention them augmenting her punches because that's speculation-ish. I suppose we just wait until someone official says something about it. (Or until the next Metroid comes out and they copy things from Smash Bros. again >:P) [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 20:48, 11 October 2014 (EDT)

== Attack Damage ==

-I can't edit the damage page so i'll put in some numbers here. Some moves have strange hit boxes/multi hits so I'm not exactly sure on some of the percents (ie:up smash and up b)

Neutral attack - 6% [1/2/3] [first/second/third punch]
Forward tilt   - 7% / 8% (neutral vs angle up/down)
Up tilt        - 12% [5/7]
Down tilt      - 8%
Dash attack    - 10%
Forward smash  - 16% [5/11] ~ 22% [7/15]
Up smash       - 11% ~ 16% (depends on what you hit them with/when you hit them)
Down smash     - 8% ~ 11%
Neutral aerial - 10%
Forward aerial - 12% [5/7]
Back aerial    - 12%
Up aerial      - 8%
Down aerial    - 5% ~ 12% (this can also hit more than once. Hits on the way down and on the ground)
Grab aerial    - 3% ~ 6% (short extension vs full extension)
Grab           - 0%
Pummel         - 2%
Forward throw  - 9%
Back throw     - 6%
Up throw       - 10%
Down throw     - 7%
Edge attack    - 7%
Neutral special- 4% ~ 6%
Side special   - 1% ~ 11% (depends on where it hits)
Up special     - 17% (every hit*) Last kick of Up special - 5%
Down special   - 8% (root) / 14% (kick)
Final smash    - 17%


That's all I have. I'll keep trying to update the numbers (maybe i'm just doing it wrong)

== Boost kick ==

Her new uspecial is listed as "buff". Shouldn't this use the "change" graphic instead, since it's completely different?
In addition, I disagree that this is a buff. I found her Brawl uspecial far more useful.

I would change it myself, but I don't want to start an edit war.
--[[User:Iceweasel|Iceweasel]] ([[User talk:Iceweasel|talk]]) 20:12, 31 January 2015 (EST)

:I have to disagree with you. The new boost kick is a much better kill move than her Brawl up special as long as you connect each hit. It has more utility than her old up special. You can combo into it from throws and some aerials (such as uair, down smash and down throw) and use it as a out of shield option. I've seen professional ZSS players such as Nairo landing this move as a KO after combos and as a mind-games at high percent. As a recovery, it is a decent vertical recovery, but not the best though. [[Special:Contributions/98.220.74.197|98.220.74.197]] 20:37, 31 January 2015 (EST)
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 That's all I have. I'll keep trying to update the numbers (maybe i'm just doing it wrong)
-[[User:Icartwright|Icartwright]] ([[User talk:Icartwright|talk]]) 10:12, 2 December 2015 (EST)
-I may be wrong, but I have noticed a sourspot on her plasma whip that does not allow the whip to hit multiple times and does no damage on its own (0%). If this can be confirmed, please add this to the damage list.
 == Boost kick ==
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 :I have to disagree with you. The new boost kick is a much better kill move than her Brawl up special as long as you connect each hit. It has more utility than her old up special. You can combo into it from throws and some aerials (such as uair, down smash and down throw) and use it as a out of shield option. I've seen professional ZSS players such as Nairo landing this move as a KO after combos and as a mind-games at high percent. As a recovery, it is a decent vertical recovery, but not the best though. [[Special:Contributions/98.220.74.197|98.220.74.197]] 20:37, 31 January 2015 (EST)
-== Notable Players? ==
-Lucina's page includes Tanman (who I added) who played twice and mains her. I don't get the inconsistency. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Chliu|Chliu]] ([[User talk:Chliu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chliu|contribs]]) 15:34 12 December 2015</small>
-:Low tiers generally also aren't supposed to have multiple people listed to "fill the list"... so, Tanman shouldn't be on there, either. In any case, the "notable players" section isn't supposed to be for every good player, just the most notable ones. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 20:38, 12 December 2015 (EST)
-== Up air Up air Up b ==
-Yes, I've seen it happen, and I mean I think personal experience is more credible than some 5 minute research. Yeah, you can DI away, but that doesn't mean the combo can be done without it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpU6zwL3hu0 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Chliu|Chliu]] ([[User talk:Chliu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Chliu|contribs]]) 20:09 20 December 2015</small>
-== My summary. ==
-It didn't get finished. I meant to say,"Don't think these two have many notable results." [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 21:30, 17 March 2016 (EDT)
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