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I am still highly uncertain whether we should have this sort of page. While it's currently pretty well-written and generally contains only the facts, having it around will attract more rumours and such than not having it (since making a page takes a lot more effort then editing one), and since the game isn't expected to have anything worth Nintendo telling us about until 2013 or something, the page'll just sit here attracting dust and garbage. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Le Grand Fromage 20:09, 5 October 2011 (EDT)
:How about protecting it so only Autoconfirmed users can edit it? <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''FALCON...'' 20:17, 5 October 2011 (EDT)
::If we do just allow this page, I think we should have full protection, and have a note on the article telling people to bring suggested changes to the talk page for verification. Plus we should move the title to Super Smash Bros. 4. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:34, 5 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Nintendo Power and MarioWiki call it this, so I'll just make a redirect. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''FALCON...'' 21:43, 5 October 2011 (EDT)
::::Smash Bros. 4 is a more accurate title. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:53, 5 October 2011 (EDT)
You forgot the thing about the custom character. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]][[File:RoyHeadSSBM.png|20px]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 08:16, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

[http://www.ssbwiki.com/File:Universe_Document.jpg]

Add this to the rumours section. As well as the customisation thing. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font><font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]] [[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|27px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">'''Complaints Box'''</span>'']] 09:19, 6 October 2011 (EDT)
:Can you provide a source for the customisation thing? Also remember to link to images on talk page, rather than placing the image directly on the talk page. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:34, 6 October 2011 (EDT)
::Can we also get verifiable sources for this whole article? Claims should be thoroughly cited. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:52, 6 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Information about Sakurai possibly including a Capcom character can be found [http://nintendoeverything.com/67219/sakurai-capcom-character-could-appear-in-next-smash-bros/ here], while information about the release date and development can be found [http://andriasang.com/comw79/ here]. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 21:02, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

== Link ==

Here's a link to the whole Universe rumor can it be added to the page http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/27912 <font face="Algerian">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''...PUNCH!!!'' 14:31, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
:That is unlikely to be true, as Sakurai's signature on that document is not his regular signature with a Kirby face. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  15:05, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
::Did you read the first post? Quote: ''Here's a link to the whole Universe '''rumor''' ''. Of course it's fake, I'm asking if we can add the link seeing as it provides more info on the rumor. <font face="Algerian">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''...PUNCH!!!'' 15:18, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

Not to get all speculatory on things, but if Square is indeed involved in Smash 4, who other than a certain character from an SNES game (which is very unlikely) is likely to appear? Some FF person? --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]][[File:RoyHeadSSBM.png|20px]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 15:25, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

== "Current Information" paragraph/section ==

I can't edit this article, so I'd like to make a prose-like section for the "Current Information" section.

"As development on ''Super Smash Bros. 4'' has not officially started yet, little information is presently available on the game.

Presently, only information about the development date has been officially confirmed: Sakurai has said that development will potentially begin in October, or at the very least, after he has finished development for the game ''Kid Icarus: Uprising''.

Sakurai has stated, in response to a fan asking him about whether a "child Link" would appear in the game, that he has not currently decided on who would appear in the game. Sakurai, however, has also said that he "can't say that it's entirely out of the realm of possibility that some Capcom character could appear in the next Smash Bros."  Capcom's Yoshinori Ono also has stated he has an interest in creating a ''Nintendo vs. Capcom'' game, in a vein similar to [[wikipedia:Marvel vs. Capcom (series)|the Marvel vs. Capcom series]]. [http://vidthru.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=544:capcoms-yoshinori-ono-wants-to-make-a-nintendo-vs-capcom-fighting-game&catid=3:news&Itemid=87]"

Incidentally, is it possible to semi-protect this page instead of giving it full protection? It seems kinda extreme at this point... ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 15:41, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
:Registered users are just as likely as IP to add speculation to this article. Once development begins and actual information is released, I think we can downgrade the protection. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:50, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

== Customisation and Level-Ups ==

[http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/27806/smash-bros-wii-u/3ds-how-theyll-work-together/] Here's a link, extract all the information you can. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font><font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]] [[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|27px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">'''Complaints Box'''</span>'']] 07:14, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
:Also, this needs adding.
{{SSBSeries}} 

[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font><font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]] [[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|27px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">'''Complaints Box'''</span>'']] 07:16, 9 October 2011 (EDT)

Here's the important parts of the article;

"Sakurai wants players with the 3DS version of Smash Bros to build up their character through battle and rewards. Then they could take their custom character over to the Wii U version to face off against everyone."

He also said that he's "aiming for the 3DS version to offer players a slightly different experience from conventional Smash Bros. games."

Sakurai said they "wouldn't be a mere extension of Super Smash Bros. Melee and Super Smash Bros. Brawl." He "did not feel that it would be right to just increase the volume, adding 50 characters or doubling the stages for instance."

"Wii U is an HD system and this version could offer 60 frames per second visuals, high quality graphics, dynamic effects, and smooth character movements." 

He believes that "there is merit in having skilled and unskilled players play together, so one emphasis will be on elements of players helping one-another."

Copied directly from http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk with a few speech marks added, so if it looks untidy, sorry.

And also, <nowiki>{{SSBSeries}}</nowiki> should be placed at the bottom of the page. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font><font color="maroon">'''Ultimatum'''</font>]] [[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">'''Complaints Box'''</span>'']] 10:57, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== Um ==

"Sakurai has confirmed that development will potentially begin in October '''2010''' " Can that be fixed, please? <font face="Algerian">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''...PUNCH!!!'' 14:21, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

I can help. Marioisawesome118[[File:MarioHeadSSBM.png]]''Bye Bye'' [[User:Marioisawesome118|zaer]] ([[User talk:Marioisawesome118|talk]]) 17:53, 11 November 2011 (EST)
:
*That was nearly a month ago.
*It's already been fixed.
*It's protected so you can't edit it.
:So no, you can't help. <font face="Showcard Gothic">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FF0000">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#5f5f5f">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">ours</font>]]</font>[[File:Boing.png|50px]]  18:02, 11 November 2011 (EST)
::Perhaps ask what they can help, before assuming they are replying to you and responding rudely? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 03:23, 12 November 2011 (EST)
But I can get rid of it. Marioisawesome118[[File:MarioHeadSSBM.png]]''Bye Bye'[[User:Marioisawesome118|zaer]] ([[User talk:Marioisawesome118|talk]]) 07:42, 13 November 2011 (EST)
:But you can't. Only admins can edit this page. Meaning only Omega Tyrant, Toomai, Miles, PenguinofDeath or Emmett can 'get rid of it'. But they wouldn't need to, as it has already been 'gotten rid of'. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 07:48, 13 November 2011 (EST)
But I still see October, that has to begone.[[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="blue">'''Marioisawesome118'''</font>]][[File:MarioHeadSSBM.png]] [[User:Marioisawesome118|zaer]] ([[User talk:Marioisawesome118|talk]]) 15:42, 15 November 2011 (EST)
:No, it does not. <font face="Showcard Gothic">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FF0000">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#5f5f5f">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">ours</font>]]</font>[[File:Boing.png|50px]]  16:10, 15 November 2011 (EST)
::Just because it's past October doesn't make it false that he said production may begin in October. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Eggster 17:21, 15 November 2011 (EST)

== Hey ==

Shouldn't we add links to [[Nintendo 3DS]] and [[Wii U]], since Toast made pages for them? <font face="Showcard Gothic">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FF0000">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#5f5f5f">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">ours</font>]]</font>[[File:Boing.png|50px]]  10:26, 13 November 2011 (EST)

== A parody ==
A recent episode of The Simpsons had Homer, Bart and Lisa go to "E4" and see a lot of parodies of upcoming games. Including "Ultra Smash Sisters Quad" which change Ultra to Super, make the opposite of Sister and Quad to it's numerical translation,4. Just a reference, I suppose.[[User:Drakon64|Drakon64]] ([[User talk:Drakon64|talk]]) 20:57, 27 November 2011 (EST)
:I suppose that could be worth a trivia mention. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:54, 27 November 2011 (EST)

==Capcom==
:Sakurai is really stupid. Capcom characters shouldn't even BE in the next game. This blows. - [[User:Drilly Dilly|Drilly Dilly]] ([[User talk:Drilly Dilly|talk]]) 20:31, 18 January 2012 (EST)
::This kind of discussion does not belong in a talk page. See [[SW:TALK]]. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  20:38, 18 January 2012 (EST)
::There quite clearly is going to be, but I'm not really getting my hopes up for it being Megaman...if you know what I mean. [[Special:Contributions/81.141.68.50|81.141.68.50]] 02:55, 21 May 2012 (EDT)

== Game is now under development ==

[http://www.cubed3.com/news/16506? Source] [[User:Magiciandude|Magiciandude]] ([[User talk:Magiciandude|talk]]) 13:09, 21 February 2012 (EST)
:Though there is no information no characters, no game modes, so we should still keep the article protected cause we can only remove the protection once "development begins and actual information is revealed." [[User:Marioisawesome118|<font color="red">Mario</font>]][[User talk:Marioisawesome118|<font color="green">is</font>]]<span style="font-family":KristenITC font size:10pt>[[Special:Contributions/Marioisawesome118|<font color="indigo">awesome</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Marioisawesome118|<font color="iceblue">118</font>]] [[File:Marioisawesome118.png|19px]] 18:53, 22 February 2012 (EST)

== Contacting Sakurai ==

Is there any way to contact Sakurai to submit character ideas, like it was made for [[SSBB|Brawl]] ? I want to ask him for [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=Victini Victini] (Pokémon Series), Tails (Sonic Series), [[Shadow]] (Sonic Series), Princess Daisy (Mario Series) and the Mii ! --[[User:Wolfy76700|Wolfy76700]] ([[User talk:Wolfy76700|talk]]) 13:04, 27 February 2012 (EST)
:If Sakurai wanted to listen to people's ideas, he would have given out a form of contact for that purpose. Neither appears to be true, and chances are it would be in Japanese only anyway.
:In addition, this is not [[SW:TALK|appropriate use]] of this talkpage. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Eggster 13:19, 27 February 2012 (EST)

== April 2012 news update ==

Here's an [http://ds.ign.com/articles/122/1223789p1.html update] from the article on IGN on an e-mail interview with Sakurai. [[User:Magiciandude|Magiciandude]] ([[User talk:Magiciandude|talk]]) 00:12, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
:Meh, doesn't particularly tell us anything we didn't know before. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:13, 26 April 2012 (EDT)

== Since it's protected... ==

Could an admin please add [[:Category:Super Smash Bros. 4]]? [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 23:10, 28 May 2012 (EDT)
:And [[:Category:Games]] [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 04:56, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

==June 2012 update==

I'm not sure if this would be a good addition to the article, but Sakurai has stated, "We’ve just taken what you could call the first step of the process. This is the first time I’ve ever had my next project announced before it’s even entered development, and because of that, I fear that players will be forced to wait even longer than they expect to. Please be patient." [http://nintendoeverything.com/91807/next-smash-bros-in-first-step-of-the-process-sakurai-worried-about-long-wait/ Here's] the link. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 02:46, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
:As a progress update it seems legit to add. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Golden 22:53, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
::As it turns out, this is old news, it's just found itself cycling through the internet again. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 02:37, 19 June 2012 (EDT)