Editing Talk:Robin

==Uh, Miles==
<s>The joint artwork isn't on this page, and when I added said artwork, you reverted it citing that it's "redundant." What's so wrong with the female Robin image that you have to keep it removed from here? </s> <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 17:27, 16 July 2014 (EDT)
:Nevermind, I had to do a hard refresh to see the image. Carry on. <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 17:28, 16 July 2014 (EDT)

== Reflet ==

Should we have something in the article specifying how "Reflet" is pronounced? I've heard many people pronounce it '"Ref-let" as opposed to "Ref-lay".

:[[User:MintyGuy700|MintyGuy700]] ([[User talk:MintyGuy700|talk]]) 18:43, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:Enter the kana into Google Translate and click on the speak button. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 18:47, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::I put it in Google Translate.
::It said "''REE-flet''".
::Carry on. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 19:00, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::Are you certain that you put ルフレ? {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 19:08, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::::I also did that. It came out as a different word: "Rufure" (pronounced the same as ''roofer'') in English. However, putting "Reflet" in (you can convert English into English), it came out pronounced "''REE-flet''". <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 19:12, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::::Rufure should be pronounced Rufray or Ruflay. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 19:14, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::::::Well, Google Translate says "''ROO-fer''", so… I don't know Japanese. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 19:16, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::::::It sounds like "Roofooray" to me, so maybe it's just the accent messing you up? <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ Contract? 19:31, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::::::::I don't know, I hear "roofer". Probably just my preference or something with Google Translate. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 19:37, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::http://youtu.be/hGdOGAs-KSI Watch this and skip to 9:31. The announcer pronounces it "Ref-lay" [[User:MintyGuy700|MintyGuy700]] ([[User talk:MintyGuy700|talk]]) 19:42, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::Yes, but the announcer can sometimes be unclear in pronunciation. "SUMUS," "ALF," "SHOKE," etc. <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] MONOKUMA DID NOTHING WRONG 19:48, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::::It's spelled like ricochet, ballet, or Chevrolet. But pronounced like Ricoshay, bally, and shevrolay. [[User:MintyGuy700|MintyGuy700]] ([[User talk:MintyGuy700|talk]]) 19:53, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:(resetting indent to one colon) Since the Japanese kana has the last part as "ay", it's Reflay. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 19:54, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
::Plus, "SUMUS" is [[Samus]], which is usually pronounced "SAM-us" or "SAY-mus", but not "SU-mus". So, we shouldn't use the announcer's official pronunciation, but rather, the [[SW:OFFICIAL|most used pronunciation]]. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 19:58, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

::(Edit conflict) If I may add, [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reflet Reflet is French/Italian in origin]; in the former language, terms that end with "et" rhyme with the English "ay", such as in "[http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/buffet#Pronunciation_3 buffet]". Its appropriate English pronunciation is also given as "ref-lay".

::--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  20:00, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:::(edit conflict) In Japan, where most of the people who call the character Reflet come from, it's impossible to read the katakana as Ref-lett, due to the fact that kana is based on pronunciation. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 20:04, 28 October 2014 (EDT)

== Is this worthy of a trivia point? ==

"''*In [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf_ATdaA4H8#t=323 an interview] in November 2014, David Vincent, the default male voice actor for Robin, was asked (and proceeded) to say [[Shulk (SSB4)|"I'm really feeling it!"]] in Robin's voice.''"

[[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 21:50, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
:I don't see why not. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 22:29, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
::I'll wait for more support (or opposition) until I add it back. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 22:30, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
:I thought it was worth keeping. Firstly, "I'm really feeling it!" is probably more famous for being in Smash than for being in Xenoblade. The only reason Robin's voice actor was asked to say "I'm really feeling it!" is because Shulk and Robin both appear in Smash 4. So I'd say it's notable. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[Image:{{NameToIcon|Ness}}Head{{#if:|{{{cl}}}}}{{#if:SSBB|{{#ifeq:SSBB|SSB4|SSB4-U|SSBB}}}}.png{{#if:16px|{{!}}16px}}|link={{#if:|{{{l}}}|Ness{{#if:SSBB|&#32;({{#switch:SSBB|SSB4-U|SSB4-3=SSB4|#default=SSBB}})}}}}]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 22:41, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
::In my opinion, I feel it's unnecessary and kind of irrelevant. In other words, at least to me, I don't think it's noteworthy as trivia. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:goldenrod;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:limegreen;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 23:15, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
:It's way too stupidly trivial to be a trivia point. Any VA can quote anything from any character via any means (Twitter, YouTube, interviews, conventions, etc.) but is that really trivia-worthy? It's just unnecessary in my eyes. Like, cool, they quoted someone, it was funny/cool, but not wiki-worthy by any means. Things like "such and such also voice such and such in Smash" or "this VA is also has this relation to this VA in Smash" would be a little more trivia-worthy because they have more significance; moreso than just a VA in a random interview quoting something from the game.

:Otherwise this gets the foot in the door for even more irrelevant stuff like "such and such VA from this game had a conversation on Twitter about their characters" or "the president of this company referenced this character in this way." [[User:Smashedpotatoes|Smashedpotatoes]] ([[User talk:Smashedpotatoes|talk]]) 23:22, 12 August 2015 (EDT)
::I agree it's a pretty ridiculous trivia point. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  14:52, 13 August 2015 (EDT)
:::We currently stand 3-3...any other supporters/opposers? (I'll wait until 9 PM EST to make my final decision.) [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 14:55, 13 August 2015 (EDT)
::::Only a day of discussion seems pretty short, but I guess we're looking at six opinions, hopefully seven eventually which is a pretty good amount... <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  14:56, 13 August 2015 (EDT)
:::::Well, I did put it up yesterday, for the record...but yea, it's something that doesn't need much. If it was like [[Marth (SSB4)|how sucky a character is]], then it would need much more. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 14:59, 13 August 2015 (EDT)
::::::I say don't add it. It's irrelevant to Robin, so there's no point in adding it. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 16:51, 13 August 2015 (EDT)
<small>(Reset indent) </small> Well, it's 9 PM EST, and it's 3-4, in favor of opposition. That settles it. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 21:04, 13 August 2015 (EDT)

== Official artwork ==

Thoughts on using [http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/9/98/4Koma_Robin.png/revision/latest?cb=20161015043106 this art] of Robin in the infobox and bumping the ''Awakening'' portrait down to the gallery? The linked piece is from a [http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem_Fates_4koma_Comic_%26_Character_Guide_Book licensed ''Fates'' book] and is, so far as I can tell, the only full-body piece of official art of the character since the Avatar had none for ''Awakening''. There's no design differences involved, but it's a bit of an oddball source and I wanted to hear some other opinions on the subject before adding it. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 03:19, 14 November 2016 (EST)
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 == Official artwork ==
-Thoughts on using [http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/9/98/4Koma_Robin.png/revision/latest?cb=20161015043106 this art] of Robin in the infobox and bumping the ''Awakening'' portrait down to the gallery? The linked piece is from a [http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem_Fates_4koma_Comic_%26_Character_Guide_Book licensed ''Fates'' book] and is, so far as I can tell, the only full-body unobstructed piece of official art of the character since the Avatar had none for ''Awakening''. There's no design differences involved, but it's a bit of an oddball source and I wanted to hear some other opinions on the subject before adding it. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 03:19, 14 November 2016 (EST)
+Thoughts on using [http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/9/98/4Koma_Robin.png/revision/latest?cb=20161015043106 this art] of Robin in the infobox and bumping the ''Awakening'' portrait down to the gallery? The linked piece is from a [http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem_Fates_4koma_Comic_%26_Character_Guide_Book licensed ''Fates'' book] and is, so far as I can tell, the only full-body piece of official art of the character since the Avatar had none for ''Awakening''. There's no design differences involved, but it's a bit of an oddball source and I wanted to hear some other opinions on the subject before adding it. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 03:19, 14 November 2016 (EST)
-:Truth be told, I'd prefer it if it were a larger image. I dunno, I'd rather have a high quality cut image than a low quality full image, you know? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 10:17, 14 November 2016 (EST)
-::With that said, though, I ''could'' see if I can make it any larger than it is now, while still keeping its quality. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 10:17, 14 November 2016 (EST)
-:::The quality and size are already adequate, from my perspective. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:37, 14 November 2016 (EST)
-::::Saving it onto my computer shows that it is a mere 200 by 217 pixels. Wouldn't you say that's a bit small? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 15:41, 14 November 2016 (EST)
-:::::...That's weird, it should be 829x901. Try [http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/File:4Koma_Robin.png this link]. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:46, 14 November 2016 (EST)
-<small>(reset indent)</small> ...That is indeed weird. Even when clicking "full resolution", it still resorts to 200x217. ...Which, now that I think about it, explains why the doubled image I created, just in case you were going to ask for it, seemed a bit big. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 15:48, 14 November 2016 (EST)
-:Ok, after hitting ctrl + shift + R, it properly resized.
-:With that being said, I wouldn't mind the image being updated to that. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 16:57, 14 November 2016 (EST)
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