Editing Talk:List of Copy Abilities

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== Copy ability hat images ==

I found 5 unused images of the back of Kirby's Copy Ability hat. Along with the images of the front, what should we do with these. Here are the 5 images. 
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File:KirbyHat5-Back.png
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What do you think of these? Where should they be placed? [[User:DekZek|<font color="Black">'''DekZek, '''</font><font color="Orange">'''The creature of your nightmares'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig-Oct.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 21:43, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
:[[Talk:List of Copy Abilities/Archive 1#Need the back of the hat trophies?|Refer here]] [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:48, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
:Clarification: I didn't say we should delete these. I was pointing out a discussion that showed the pros and cons of keeping them. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:22, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
::'''Strong oppose deletion of above images''': If the backs of the trophies are hidden, then there should be a section for them on this page. [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 08:31, 14 October 2015 (EDT)

== Consistent size? ==

Should I get a consistent size for all of these images? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:28, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:If you want, although I am not sure how big an issue it is. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:32, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::It bothers me... :P <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  20:33, 21 December 2015 (EST)

== Kirby's copy resemblance... ==

Well, I just turned on the Amazing Mirror on my 3DS, and checked out Laser & Cupid Kirby. (Unfortunately, the miiverse doesn't support it, so I can't show pics). First, Laser Kirby has the thing above his eyes, while in Smash his eyes are covered. Also the shapes are different. Cupid Kirby has an actual halo, ''above'' his head while the Smash angels just have a crown of feathers, ''on'' his head. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 14:27, 19 February 2016 (EST)

:They resemble each other because they have certain characteristics in common? That's the definition of "resembles." There's a difference between that and something matching/looking exactly like/looking identically to something. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 14:33, 19 February 2016 (EST)

== Well, this table seems empty ==

I noticed there is a stunning lack of information on the table here. Just recently, I [[mariowiki:Kirby#Copy Abilities|redid the chart on the Mario Wiki]], so, um, feel free to plagiarize my work if it'll help fill the table. I'd do it myself, but I'm more occupied with the work I do over there and have other projects I'm working on. But I give you guys permission to steal my work :) ([[mariowiki:Talk:Kirby#Pics_for_the_Kirby_abilities|More info about it's creation]]) [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 19:38, 18 December 2016 (EST)

:That works for mariowiki because it doesn't go into great detail in the special moves' pages, hence it can get away with having a general idea listed in that table. But none of that is necessary here. It already takes a lot of text and space to cover a special move's function. That's what the individual special move pages that are linked to in this article are for...all a single click away. Nearly all that needs to be covered as far as the move functions are concerned are how they differ from the original characters' versions of the moves. The ending sentence in the first paragraph of this page states "Aside from the obvious range differences, copied attacks are functionally identical to the originals except where noted." So, the idea is to assume that the special moves are the same unless otherwise noted. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 20:06, 18 December 2016 (EST)
::Ah, I get you. Makes sense that the SmashWiki would cover everything related to special moves in greater detail. Still, it'd be nice to have at least a summary of the move and Kirby's changed appearance in one place. You know, convenience! [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 23:11, 18 December 2016 (EST)

== File for Incineroar copy ability ==

I saw the Incineroar copy image is extremely blurry. I can't tag it as low quality due to it having create on the file name. So I decided to bring it here. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 12:43, 12 November 2018 (EST)

== Grace period confirmed ==

According to Ultimate 3.0 patch notes, there is a "grace period" (my words, not theirs) between Kirby gaining a copy ability, and Kirby's opponents causing him to drop it by damaging him. The patch notes also imply that it has existed before, it's just that nobody mentions it &mdash; is this true? If so, I think either this article or [[Inhale (Kirby)]] should mention it. [[Special:Contributions/99.46.176.64|99.46.176.64]] 21:02, April 19, 2019 (EDT)

== Power of Copy Ability? ==

Most of the Copy Abilities have Kirby use a slightly stronger version of the characters Neutral special, but others don't have this power multiplier, while a few others are toned down, like Monado Arts. I think the information on the multiplier of Kirby's new neutral special would be useful. Also maybe how useful his copy abilities would be in one on one matches, like how useful Kirby's Fireball will help him fare against Mario {{unsigned|8.40.199.25|14:18, November 26, 2019}}
:The multiplier would be interesting information to have, but we don't usually give gameplay strategies on the wiki; we usually just note the raw mechanical functions (like how Kirby's fireball disappears faster than Mario's). ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 14:38, November 26, 2019 (EST)
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 == Power of Copy Ability? ==
-Most of the Copy Abilities have Kirby use a slightly stronger version of the characters Neutral special, but others don't have this power multiplier, while a few others are toned down, like Monado Arts. I think the information on the multiplier of Kirby's new neutral special would be useful. Also maybe how useful his copy abilities would be in one on one matches, like how useful Kirby's Fireball will help him fare against Mario <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:8.40.199.25|8.40.199.25]] ([[User talk:8.40.199.25|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/8.40.199.25|contribs]]) 14:18, November 26, 2019</small>
+Most of the Copy Abilities have Kirby use a slightly stronger version of the characters Neutral special, but others don't have this power multiplier, while a few others are toned down, like Monado Arts. I think the information on the multiplier of Kirby's new neutral special would be useful. Also maybe how useful his copy abilities would be in one on one matches, like how useful Kirby's Fireball will help him fare against Mario {{unsigned|8.40.199.25|14:18, November 26, 2019}}
 :The multiplier would be interesting information to have, but we don't usually give gameplay strategies on the wiki; we usually just note the raw mechanical functions (like how Kirby's fireball disappears faster than Mario's). ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 14:38, November 26, 2019 (EST)
-== Copy Ability Table image size ==
-I’m not the only person who thinks that the copy image size table looks a bit weird? You can barely see the images unless you zoom in (I tried on both mobile and desktop). Do you think we should just show the Ultimate hats for each character or are their tools to improve the display of the table? [[User:Adam2002|Adam2002]]<small>14:24, May 20, 2020 (EDT)</small>
-:I was able to get them to appear larger on mobile. I added <nowiki>"style=min-width: 40px"</nowiki> to each column so they aren't too small. They can be made larger if it is still needed. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 17:09, May 20, 2020 (EDT)
-== Steve Kirby hirtbox ==
-Since Kirby's model changes completely after copying Steve, does that alter his hurtbox and/or hitbox as well? [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 13:07, October 14, 2020 (EDT)
-:Other Kirby hats are complete model changes, they just aren't square. Hurtbox differences are extraordinarily unlikely. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Inconceivable 17:07, October 15, 2020 (EDT)
-== steve fact check ==
-On Steve's column it says he cannot craft due to not summoning a crafting table, but the Steve that he inhales automatically comes with one, so shouldn't that mean Kirby can craft as well? [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 16:40, October 15, 2020 (EDT)
-:I don't think he'd be able to use it, anyway; that'd require giving him a weapons system when all Kirby copies is being able to craft blocks. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 16:44, October 15, 2020 (EDT)
-::Kirby gets to mine and build, but he doesn't get a table and cannot craft. Kirby has weirder interactions than this. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Inconceivable 17:07, October 15, 2020 (EDT)
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