Editing Talk:Launch rate

== Rename article to "Launch rate" ==

This article was created in 2009 when Melee and Brawl, the latest two Smash games, had a rule option with this name. Now, in 2018, the breakdown looks like this:
* {{GameIcon|SSB}} Damage %
* {{GameIcon|SSBM}} Damage Ratio
* {{GameIcon|SSBB}} Damage Ratio
* {{GameIcon|SSB4}} Launch Rate
* {{GameIcon|SSBU}} Launch Rate

Since the name "launch rate" is actually accurate to the option's effect, and since the two most recent Smash games use this name, we should rename the article accordingly. We will delete the existing [[launch rate]] redirect, do the rename, and leave a redirect from "damage ratio" to "launch rate." [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 14:18, 11 September 2018 (EDT)
:If nobody is opposed enough to reply here, I'm going to go ahead and do this. I'll fix page occurrences too. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 10:27, 14 September 2018 (EDT)
While I '''Support''' the proposal, I'd like to point out that lack of interaction does not allow you to circumvent the consensus process. Please see the response I left you on your post on Serpent King's talk page. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:16, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
It has been made clear to me that rather than inviting discussion on the deletion tag for the redirect, I should ensure consensus is reached on this page instead. So any other comments of support or opposition are welcomed. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 01:48, 16 September 2018 (EDT)
:'''Support'''. [[User:Ponyshment|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 1px 1px 6px purple">'''Ponyshment'''</span>]]  [[File:PonyshmentSignature.png|20px|link=User_talk:Ponyshment]]  04:36, 16 September 2018 (EDT)
:'''Support''' We will need to move it to keep it up to date. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 18:10, 16 September 2018 (EDT)
:One more bump for comment. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 12:29, 18 September 2018 (EDT)

'''Support''' the accurate terminology point is good enough for me. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 18:11, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

'''Support'''  This is a great idea! I like it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:16, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

== Capitalization redirect ==

'''''"For misspellings and capitalization redirects: Redirects are not for idiot-proofing. [...] Additionally, capitalization redirects are generally pointless because the search feature will automatically fix any capitalization mistake made if a match is found."'''''

There is absolutely no need to have both [[Damage Ratio]] and Damage ratio as redirects. If the official spelling has both words capitalized, then that one should be kept, and the other deleted, as it serves 0 purpose whatsoever. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:28, 21 September 2018 (EDT)
:"Damage Ratio" is the way it's spelled in Melee. "Damage ratio" is the title we had originally. There's your reasons. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:29, 21 September 2018 (EDT)
::In that case, "Damage ratio" was an erroneous title, and thus should not have been the title used in the first place. Having both redirects both contradicts this policy, and serves no purpose, as I stated before.''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:31, 21 September 2018 (EDT)
:The capitalization of options is pretty inconsistent across the board. It's true that "Damage Ratio," "Launch Rate", and "[[Team Attack]]" all follow the way they're capitalized in the game options, as does the list of [[rules]], but personally I think [[handicap]] does it properly by not capitalizing (except in sentence case, obviously). Anyway, point being, this issue isn't unique to this redirect. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 17:41, 21 September 2018 (EDT)
:Note: Damage ratio has since been deleted as an unnecessary capitalisation redirect. &ndash; [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 17:55, 29 September 2018 (EDT)

== Merging with Knockback ==

I tagged this article to be merged because, as the tag says, almost all important info here is already covered there. I'm not a fan of just merging an article rather than expanding it if possible, but I don't really think that's the case here. I feel that this article is already somewhat dead-on, stating the only thing launch rate really is: a factor by which knockback is multiplied by. Even the x0.5 to x2.0 range is mentioned on the article, where launch rate is presented as a factor in the Knockback equation - representing its main purpose as written here. Despite being an unseen component of gameplay, launch rate is a largely important one: I agree with that through and through. However, there may be ''only so much'' info we can use to support a whole article about it. So why not just take the base of this article and make it a subsection of "Basic Physics" on Knockback? If seen fit by the majority of others (although I disagree) the competitive info can even be merged as well. '''Discuss.''' [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer'''</span>]][[User talk:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:red">'''28'''</span>]][[File:Acgamer28SignatureHead.png|20px]] 20:54, May 18, 2020 (EDT)

'''Support'''. The page feels largely unnecessary. Acgamer's reasoning makes a lot of sense as well. While it's a setting, I don't think there needs to be pages for settings; just add a section to the Knockback article and slap on a redirect for good measure. -[[File:King K. Rool SSBU.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:King K. Rool SSBU.png|20px]] 23:22, June 7, 2020 (EDT)
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