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:::::::Just so you know, Warwick, Semi wasn't talking about Randall being his friend, he was talking about me. And as for the bans that Randall gave, if you didn't notice, I've commuted them (if I missed one, let me know). The only one I didn't commute was Blue Ninjakoppa and he ''repeatedly'' made vulgar personal attacks against multiple users, and then, after reciveing a short ban, continued to use his talk page to rant and attack other users. If that ''isn't'' ban-worthy on your wiki, then I don't know what is (what follows is sarcasm) and will be contacting Willy on Wheels so he can find a place for his work that doesn't get him banned. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 21:11, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | :::::::Just so you know, Warwick, Semi wasn't talking about Randall being his friend, he was talking about me. And as for the bans that Randall gave, if you didn't notice, I've commuted them (if I missed one, let me know). The only one I didn't commute was Blue Ninjakoppa and he ''repeatedly'' made vulgar personal attacks against multiple users, and then, after reciveing a short ban, continued to use his talk page to rant and attack other users. If that ''isn't'' ban-worthy on your wiki, then I don't know what is (what follows is sarcasm) and will be contacting Willy on Wheels so he can find a place for his work that doesn't get him banned. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 21:11, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::That's not a bad idea actually. Part of my frustration lies in the utter lack of a venue for reconfirmation and no-confidence voting. As to Randall, what worries me is less that he lost his temper (that much I can forgive anyone), but, rather, that his talk page, when taken as a whole, demonstrates a ''modus operandi'' that ill-befits a Sysop, i.e. an isolated incident is one thing, a pattern of behavior is quite another. And, unfortunately, commuting the bans, though admirable, does not address the pattern of behavior, which is what I've been trying to get at all along. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] 21:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | :::::::::That's not a bad idea actually. Part of my frustration lies in the utter lack of a venue for reconfirmation and no-confidence voting. As to Randall, what worries me is less that he lost his temper (that much I can forgive anyone), but, rather, that his talk page, when taken as a whole, demonstrates a ''modus operandi'' that ill-befits a Sysop, i.e. an isolated incident is one thing, a pattern of behavior is quite another. And, unfortunately, commuting the bans, though admirable, does not address the pattern of behavior, which is what I've been trying to get at all along. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] 21:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Honestly, DE, I responded to you several times in a polite manner. I've never broken calm. Perhaps my words were at times incendiary, but they never broke calm. Maybe you didn't like what I asked of you, but don't mistake it for impoliteness. I asked you what the problem was. You didn't state it. I don't even know if you can identify what really happened. In fact, I'd be surprised if you could even tell me what the problem was beyond what I said to 'Miles' and beyond a sysop banning people he shouldn't have banned the first time around. Do you understand his motivation? Do you know what they did to him? His reaction was wrong, to be sure, but their reaction to his action was worse, meritting ban. So please, surprise me. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 21:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC) |
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