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::Ok, I kind of see what you are saying, but I strongly disagree with your mentality. That statement is highly unreliable. It is impossible to measure the number of people who would benefit from a new help desk, as you cannot count the number of people who need help but don't ask, since they don't know how. Many new users and IPs may not think to/realize that they can use admin talk pages to ask questions as well. Finally, effectively saying "our system isn't very good, but let's not fix it because users can find a way around it", does not really seem like a great argument against this change. If there is something on our site that needs improving, I feel it should be improved, even if there is a workaround that users can figure out, as we should never require users to find workarounds for features on our site that simply don't work very well. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 17:38, 12 January 2018 (EST) | ::Ok, I kind of see what you are saying, but I strongly disagree with your mentality. That statement is highly unreliable. It is impossible to measure the number of people who would benefit from a new help desk, as you cannot count the number of people who need help but don't ask, since they don't know how. Many new users and IPs may not think to/realize that they can use admin talk pages to ask questions as well. Finally, effectively saying "our system isn't very good, but let's not fix it because users can find a way around it", does not really seem like a great argument against this change. If there is something on our site that needs improving, I feel it should be improved, even if there is a workaround that users can figure out, as we should never require users to find workarounds for features on our site that simply don't work very well. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 17:38, 12 January 2018 (EST) | ||
:::I would think that we have to make decisions based on current trends. In the 8 months I’ve been here, I’ve only seen 3 of these kind of forums being created, including the one you just linked. Many new users do seem to realise that they can ask an admin for help, and given how little time anyone spends in the forums, I see little need to fix a system that hardly ever gets used. “But Black,” you may ask me, “I literally just said that creating an entirely new page can be daunting for a new user. That will contribute to the lack of activity on this forum, won’t it?” Yes, it probably does. However, it’s precisely because of that that I would rather just go leave messages on an admin’s talk page, and in fact, this new system that you propose is really no different to that. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3''']]</span> 18:28, 12 January 2018 (EST) | :::I would think that we have to make decisions based on current trends. In the 8 months I’ve been here, I’ve only seen 3 of these kind of forums being created, including the one you just linked. Many new users do seem to realise that they can ask an admin for help, and given how little time anyone spends in the forums, I see little need to fix a system that hardly ever gets used. “But Black,” you may ask me, “I literally just said that creating an entirely new page can be daunting for a new user. That will contribute to the lack of activity on this forum, won’t it?” Yes, it probably does. However, it’s precisely because of that that I would rather just go leave messages on an admin’s talk page, and in fact, this new system that you propose is really no different to that. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3''']]</span> 18:28, 12 January 2018 (EST) | ||
==Inclusion of ssf2 pages== | |||
This is just me, but I think there should be some pages on ssf2. All I think there really needs to be on the wiki is: | |||
*A main page for the game | |||
*A page for each character | |||
*A page for each item and stage that doesn't appear in an official smash game | |||
*A page based on the competitive scene and a few top players | |||
The idea for this is from the inclusion of Project M in the wiki. I don't think any games like ssbc (smash bros crusade) or rivals of aether should be included because they aren't well known and don't have any direct relation with any smash bros characters, respectively. | |||