Editing SmashWiki talk:Images

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==[[:Category:User images]]==
I think that the user images category should be used more often and more reliably. As such, I'm proposing a rule that all personal images must be in it. Failing to put a personal image into the category would result in a reminder to do so, possibly followed by deletion if the user doesn't comply in a reasonable length of time. Personal images would also not be allowed to be placed in any category used by non-personal images (presumably all the other categories). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Non-Toxic 21:41, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:I '''support''' this. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:05, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:Why exactly do we need a category for user images? [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  22:30, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
::We currently have over a thousand uncategorized images - at least twenty times more than uncategorized articles, templates, and categories combined. We need to start chopping that down, and I figured taking personal images out of that group would be as good a place as any to start. Having a category exclusively for personal images would also add an extra layer of division between them and other images. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Frivolous 23:06, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Fair enough. I '''Support''' this as well. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:09, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
::::'''Support''' as well. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 23:12, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::I '''Support'''. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|I don't got all day, sorry.]] [[File:WolfHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|well?]] 23:14, 3 October 2011 (EDT)
::::::Awesome. I '''Support'''. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dCol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''FALCON...'' 17:11, 4 October 2011 (EDT)

== Edited images ==

I've noticed [[User:Brandondorf9999]] has been blocked a fair amount of times for "uploading edited images". If this has been a block reason, shouldn't there be something in the policy that prohibits such images? [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  21:05, 8 February 2012 (EST)
:I noticed that too. He had tried to make some of the background of the images white or tried to make some of them all shiny or stuff like that. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The Morning]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Sun]] 22:10, 8 February 2012 (EST)

If I recall correctly, most of those blocks weren't necessarily for editing the images, but for editing them in a way that made them worse (e.g. enlarging images, adding shoddy transparency) and engaging in revert wars over them. That said however I will write here that we will not accept (in the mainspace) edited images. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Obfuscating 23:31, 8 February 2012 (EST)

:If you're including a guideline on edited images, I would also suggest including a guideline about avoiding the use of images from hacks; I know the Teetering article had an image of a moveswapped Mario, and Brandondorf got into trouble for uploading images of a "widescreen" hack. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 23:37, 8 February 2012 (EST)
:I was aware that many of his blocks were due to his images actually being lower quality, or for him image edit warring. However, the recent notice you added to the talk page seemed like it would be more meaningful if it had policy to back it up. Anyways, thank you for adding that note. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:52, 8 February 2012 (EST)

== Image amendment ==

Fine with me, I usually add spaces in my pic names. [[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 19:47, 28 July 2013 (EDT)

Why do you think the amendment is extreme? [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 21:27, 28 July 2013 (EDT)
:Because it flies in the face of probably more than half of the images we have, and implementing your "must have spaces and avoid abbreviations" amendment would require us to rename them all without bot support (and then find and fix the affected templates).
:In addition I'm not convinced that making images easier to search for is necessary (why search for an image when you can just look in the articles where it would be, and if it's not there there's no reason for it to exist), nor that this rule would actually help (spaced/unabbreviated or not, search's dropdown bar acts the same). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Hammer 23:56, 28 July 2013 (EDT)

== Fan translation MOTHER 3 images ==

Would images from the fan-translated MOTHER 3 break the "no fanart" rule listed here? {{s|user|Red}} ([[User talk:Red|talk]]) [[File:RedSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/Red|Red]] 13:04, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
:Images from fan translations of games are acceptable if the game in question has no official English release. This includes the Mother 3 fan translation, and would also apply to things like older Fire Emblem games. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:18, 27 May 2014 (EDT)
::Thanks for that answer. {{s|user|Red}} ([[User talk:Red|talk]]) [[File:RedSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/Red|Red]] 13:21, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

== Stage hazards? ==

We currently have some inconsistencies with pages on stage hazards. [[Flying Man]], [[Kamek]], [[Charmander]], [[Cresselia]], [[Dark Emperor]], [[Dialga]], [[Fish]], [[King Bulblin]], [[Klaptrap]], [[Meta Ridley]], [[Palkia]], [[Porygon]], [[Rayquaza]], [[Registeel]], [[Reshiram]], [[Ridley]], [[Ultimate Chimera]], [[Yellow Devil]], and [[Zekrom]] all use images from their appearance in Super Smash Bros. for their infobox. However, [[Shellcreeper]], [[Shy Guy]], [[Sidestepper]], [[Whispy Woods]], [[Wolfen]], [[Peckish Aristocrab]], [[Piranha Plant]], [[Metal Face]], [[Great Fox]], [[Banzai Bill]], [[Birdo]], [[Nabbit]], and [[5-Volt]] use artwork from their source games. And then we have [[Arwing]], [[F-Zero Racers]], and [[Pidgit]], which don't have infoboxes at all. I excluded the stage hazards who fill other roles in other games (such as [[Chansey]]) since they seem to at least be consistent with other characters in their group, but we need to define whether or not stage hazards get their own artwork in infoboxes or not. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 15:03, 18 May 2018 (EDT)

== Replacing "inferior" images? ==

What's the approach to replacing an image that isn't exactly in "poor quality" but I have a better one?
''Example:'' 

[[Image:SSBU-Great_Plateau_TowerBattlefield.png|350px|]]

This is generally a good image of the Battlefield Form of the stage, but I think a zoomed out picture would be better fitting:

[[Image:SSBU-Great_Plateau_TowerBattlefield_ZoomOut.png|350px|]]

I don't want to just remove something claiming "my image is better" out of the blue.
What are the rulings on this kind of situation?
[[User:Boogs|Boogs]] ([[User talk:Boogs|talk]]) 08:22, 20 November 2018 (EST)
:You click on the image you want to replace. Under "File history" there will be a blue link that reads: "Upload a new version of this file". Click on that and then follow the usual procedure. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 08:58, 20 November 2018 (EST)
::Thanks for the help! [[User:Boogs|Boogs]] ([[User talk:Boogs|talk]]) 09:14, 20 November 2018 (EST)
:::No problem. I also already went ahear and replaced it and placed a deletion tag on the duplicate image you uploaded. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 09:23, 20 November 2018 (EST)
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 ''Example:''
-<nowiki>[[Image:SSBU-Great_Plateau_TowerBattlefield.png|350px|]]</nowiki>
+[[Image:SSBU-Great_Plateau_TowerBattlefield.png|350px|]]
 This is generally a good image of the Battlefield Form of the stage, but I think a zoomed out picture would be better fitting:
-<nowiki>[[Image:SSBU-Great_Plateau_TowerBattlefield_ZoomOut.png|350px|]]</nowiki>
+[[Image:SSBU-Great_Plateau_TowerBattlefield_ZoomOut.png|350px|]]
 I don't want to just remove something claiming "my image is better" out of the blue.
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 :You click on the image you want to replace. Under "File history" there will be a blue link that reads: "Upload a new version of this file". Click on that and then follow the usual procedure. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 08:58, 20 November 2018 (EST)
 ::Thanks for the help! [[User:Boogs|Boogs]] ([[User talk:Boogs|talk]]) 09:14, 20 November 2018 (EST)
-:::No problem. I also already went ahead and replaced it and placed a deletion tag on the duplicate image you uploaded. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 09:23, 20 November 2018 (EST)
+:::No problem. I also already went ahear and replaced it and placed a deletion tag on the duplicate image you uploaded. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 09:23, 20 November 2018 (EST)
-== Native resolution ==
-It is currently an unwritten rule that images should be taken at native resolution, having overlap with the "represent the subject as "natural" as possible" and no "hacks or codes" policy as that is the primary means of non-native resolutions. Since that policy's addition in 2012, various means of capturing non-native resolutions have become much more common:
-*Emulators are much more widespread and accessible, many of which allow for higher output resolutions either through built-in cheats or built into the emulator itself
-*Gameplay capture has also become more prevalent, with companies engaging in the practice themselves. Recorded video can be saved and uploaded at whatever resolution the uploader desires
-*Along with the above, said videos can be viewed at whatever resolution depending on their display device and then taking a screenshot; get a "4k image" of a 3DS game by watching a video in fullscreen on a 4k monitor
-As previously mentioned, these (and probably other) methods ''can'' be covered by the aforementioned policy, however it is easily up to interpretation. As such, it should be codified that images should not be at a higher resolution than the parent hardware is capable of producing under normal circumstances along with listing said resolutions: N64 = 320x240 (640x480 with Expansion Pack RAM, don't think Smash 64 makes use of it), GCN/Wii = 640x480; 3DS = 400x240 (top), 320x240 (bottom); Wii U = 1280x720 or 1920x1080 (Smash Wii U uses 1080p); Switch 1920x1080 (docked), 1280x720 (handheld); other consoles too if we extend to non-Smash titles. The primary exception to this would be images from official sources&mdash;they have direct means of producing higher resolutions as well as to preserve history.
-Lastly, in the event that upscaled media is allowed, I think a policy similar to WiKirby's should be employed. Specifically the [[wikirby:WiKirby:Image_standards#Upscaled images|upscaled image policy]] in that uspcaled images take lower precedence to native resolution images and that the upscaled images must explicitly mention that they are upscaled (the means of upscaling and by how much should also be listed on the image page). I'd also suggest restrict what means of uspcaling can be used to "nearest-neighbor" (namely for sprites) and hardware upscaling (primarily emulators)&mdash;various other interpolation methods can add pixels that don't exist (running into the no edited images policy) and AI upscaling does the same but can wrongly assume what the subject is and insert pixels that shouldn't exist.
---[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:11, December 11, 2022 (EST)
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