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{{cquote|The Knee Smash, used in midair on foes in front of you, is slow and has a short reach, but if it connects, it'll send foes flying a long way on a low trajectory.|cite=[[List of SSBM trophies (F-Zero series)|Captain Falcon's "Smash Red" Trophy]]|source=''Super Smash Bros. Melee''}}{{ | {{cquote|The Knee Smash, used in midair on foes in front of you, is slow and has a short reach, but if it connects, it'll send foes flying a long way on a low trajectory.|cite=[[List of SSBM trophies (F-Zero series)|Captain Falcon's "Smash Red" Trophy]]|source=''Super Smash Bros. Melee''}}{{clear}} | ||
[[File:FalconKneeSSB4.png|thumb|350px|The Knee Smash in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''.]] | [[File:FalconKneeSSB4.png|thumb|350px|The Knee Smash in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''.]] | ||
The '''Knee Smash''' ({{ja|ストライキングニー|Sutoraikingu Nī}}, ''Striking Knee''), also well-known in the fan community as '''The Knee''' and '''Knee of Justice''' (and a variety of other nicknames involving the term "knee"), is [[Captain Falcon]]'s [[forward aerial]] | The '''Knee Smash''' ({{ja|ストライキングニー|Sutoraikingu Nī}}, ''Striking Knee''), also well-known in the fan community as '''The Knee''' and '''Knee of Justice''' (and a variety of other nicknames involving the term "knee"), is [[Captain Falcon]]'s [[forward aerial]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'', and ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''. It is an extremely powerful low-trajectory KO move often used at the end of Falcon's combos and for edge-guarding. It deals up to 18% [[damage]] in ''Melee'', 19% in ''Brawl'' and ''SSB4'' and 22% in ''Ultimate'', and has [[electric]]al properties when [[sweetspot]]ted. The name of the move is confirmed from his "Red" Smash trophy description in ''Melee'', as well as that game's strategy guide. | ||
The name of the move is confirmed from his "Red" Smash trophy description in ''Melee'', that game's strategy guide | |||
==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
===In '' | ===In ''Super Smash Bros. Melee''=== | ||
[[File:T3h Knee.jpg|thumb|The Knee Smash in ''Melee''.]] | [[File:T3h Knee.jpg|thumb|The Knee Smash in ''Melee''.]] | ||
The Knee Smash is considered among the best moves in the game due to its powerful horizontal knockback, where it can reliably KO under 100% in most stages. Many combos and strategies for Captain Falcon end with a Knee Smash. When the Knee Smash is at [[stale-move negation|full power]], it makes an excellent [[wall of pain]], and can be accompanied by Captain Falcon's [[down aerial]] for a pseudo-[[Ken Combo]]. | The Knee Smash is considered among the best moves in the game due to its low start-up lag and very powerful horizontal knockback, where it can reliably KO under 100% in most stages. Many combos and strategies for Captain Falcon end with a Knee Smash. When the Knee Smash is at [[stale-move negation|full power]], it makes an excellent [[wall of pain]], and can be accompanied by Captain Falcon's [[down aerial]] for a pseudo-[[Ken Combo]]. | ||
The Knee Smash acts as a [[sex kick]], with two main [[hitbox]]es. The initial hitbox (often called the "hard knee"), which lasts only a few frames, is Captain Falcon's primary KO move and is accompanied by an electric effect. The second hitbox (nicknamed the "soft knee" or "weak knee") lasts much longer but lacks the damage and knockback of the initial hitbox. The attack acts as a semi-spike, albeit a weak one. Despite how seemingly weak it is, it has its uses. The player can use weak knee in comboing the entire cast with the most common combos being: weak knee into | The Knee Smash acts as a [[sex kick]], with two main [[hitbox]]es. The initial hitbox (often called the "hard knee"), which lasts only a few frames, is Captain Falcon's primary KO move and is accompanied by an electric effect. The second hitbox (nicknamed the "soft knee" or "weak knee") lasts much longer, but lacks the damage and knockback of the initial hitbox. The attack acts as a semi-spike, albeit a weak one. Despite how seemingly weak it is, it has its uses. The player can use weak knee in comboing the entire cast with the most common combos being: weak knee into hard knee and weak knee into up air. Weak knee can also be used in [[edge guarding]]. By using his speed Captain Falcon can reach extremely far offstage and cover large areas with his knee. While sometimes the weak knee may not be enough to kill, it sets the player up to continue the edge guard. | ||
Due to the Knee Smash's low ending lag, players can use it as a launcher into another aerial attack, often another Knee Smash. In addition, if a hard Knee Smash lands at 60% or so, players can occasionally follow it up with an aerial [[Falcon Punch]] in the deadly "[[Sacred Combo]]". | Due to the Knee Smash's low ending lag, players can use it as a launcher into another aerial attack, often another Knee Smash. In addition, if a hard Knee Smash lands at 60% or so, players can occasionally follow it up with an aerial [[Falcon Punch]] in the deadly "[[Sacred Combo]]". | ||
Assuming the move is properly timed and [[L-canceling|L-cancelled]], the knee is one of the few moves that puts the attacker at a frame advantage when blocked. In other words, by the time the knee's landing animation is over and Falcon can act again, the blocking opponent will still be stuck in [[shieldstun]], unable to act. This gives the knee immense utility in shield pressure scenarios, requiring the opponent to commit to a risky option should they wish to get out of their shield unharmed. The knee also supplements its utility in shield pressure with high shield damage, removing nearly a quarter of the opponent's remaining shield upon being blocked. | Assuming the move is properly timed and [[L-canceling|L-cancelled]], the knee is one of the few moves that puts the attacker at a frame advantage when blocked. In other words, by the time the knee's landing animation is over and Falcon can act again, the blocking opponent will still be stuck in [[shieldstun]], unable to act. This gives the knee immense utility in shield pressure scenarios, requiring the opponent to commit to a risky option should they wish to get out of their shield unharmed. The knee also supplements its utility in shield pressure with a high shield damage, removing nearly a quarter of the opponent's remaining shield upon being blocked. | ||
In the [[PAL]] version of ''Melee'', the late hit of the attack is weakened, dealing less knockback and halved damage. This nerf prevents Captain Falcon from following up with another hard knee, forcing him to follow up with an up aerial instead. | In the [[PAL]] version of ''Melee'', the late hit of the attack is weakened, dealing less knockback and halved damage. This nerf prevents Captain Falcon from following up with another hard knee, forcing him to follow up with an up aerial instead. | ||
===In '' | ===In ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''=== | ||
In ''Brawl'', the Knee Smash was [[nerf]]ed. The initial hitbox was nerfed such that it needs to actually | In ''Brawl'', the Knee Smash was [[nerf]]ed. The initial hitbox was nerfed such that it needs to actually sweetspot on the knee itself for the familiar electric hit to occur, as the back hitbox simply has similar properties of [[NTSC]] ''Melee''{{'}}s late hit, while the late hit in ''Brawl'' acts like the [[PAL]] late hit in ''Melee'', being even weaker than the clean hit's sourspot. In addition, the initial hitbox as a whole now only lasts one frame (instead of three) and its hitbox is significantly smaller (5.2 → 3); as a result, it is much harder to land a hard Knee Smash, especially on smaller characters. Its [[hitlag]] has also been significantly increased, allowing for more [[DI]] and [[SDI]] from the opponent. On the upside, it can [[autocancel]] from a short hop, though on smaller characters, this trait can only be taken full advantage of if they aren't on the ground. Nonetheless, the Knee Smash remains among Falcon's strongest finishers (stronger than all of his smash attacks), sometimes used in an aerial combo in place of his up aerial. | ||
The Knee Smash had its knockback | The Knee Smash had its knockback altered (24 (base)/100 (growth) → 30/93), which would technically make it weaker than it was in ''Melee'', but due to it dealing 1% more damage (18% → 19%), it retains its strength overall. It also has 4 frames more ending lag (36 → 40 frames). The higher base knockback makes it safer on hit at lower percentages. However, the reduced scaling makes it slightly weaker at higher percentages. It also has higher landing lag (18 → 22 frames). | ||
A late Knee Smash can trip a grounded opponent often | A late Knee Smash can trip a grounded opponent often, and is still useful for [[gimp]]ing recoveries like {{SSBB|Falco}}'s, albeit less so than in ''Melee''. It can also be followed up with an up aerial or a sweet spotted Knee Smash if the opponent is read correctly. | ||
It is notable that Captain Falcon has a true setup for a | It is notable that Captain Falcon has a true setup for a sweetspotted Knee Smash if he uses it after a grab air release on Wario, and a grab ground release on Ness. | ||
===In '' | ===In ''Super Smash Bros. 4''=== | ||
The Knee Smash was nerfed once again, now | The Knee Smash was nerfed once again, now having a massive 30 frames (half a second) of landing lag and greater aerial cool-down (IASA frame 40 → 46), meaning it can no longer autocancel in a short hop. As a result, it is no longer a practical approach option, and is somewhat riskier to use offstage. | ||
Despite these nerfs, it | Despite these nerfs, it sees much more use and effectiveness than in ''Brawl'', largely due to the changes to [[hitstun canceling]], which is now only possible after frame 40 with an air dodge or frame 45 with an aerial, while both hitstun canceling windows scale in proportion to the knockback sustained, rather than the frame 13 or 25 regardless of knockback windows that were in ''Brawl''. These changes make combos into the Knee much more prevalent, such as the classic down aerial into Knee, especially in conjunction with Falcon's altered up aerial that now sends opponents vertically, and the significantly improved burst on his dash grab, that allows Falcon to carry a great deal of momentum into his down throw; the Knee as a fatal followup to these moves at mid-percentages is notably prevalent in competitive play, whether as part of a true combo or to punish an opponent air dodging out of those moves. The Knee's KO power also got buffed, by it sending opponents at a slightly lower trajectory, and the new [[rage]] mechanic that can allow it to KO up to around 20% sooner; it's not uncommon for Falcon to nab KOs below 50% from a combo into the Knee when he has a significant amount of Rage. At high damages however, about after 80-100% damage, even lower when he has significant Rage, it becomes difficult to land a Knee Smash again as the setups into it no longer work, requiring a [[Mindgame#Predicting|good read]] or a precise punish to land it. | ||
===In '' | ===In ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''=== | ||
==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||
*In-game parameters reveal that Captain Falcon's Knee Smash was planned to have the | *The Knee Smash is one of only eight knee-based attacks in the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series that are not [[pummel]]s. The other seven are the [[Gentleman|third hit of Captain Falcon's neutral combo]], the first hit of {{SSBU|Snake}}'s forward tilt, the second hit of {{SSBU|Wii Fit Trainer}}'s neutral combo, {{SSBU|Zero Suit Samus}}'s dash attack in ''SSB4'' and ''Ultimate'', {{SSBU|Ryu}}'s neutral aerial, the second hit of {{SSBU|Incineroar}}'s neutral combo, and Incineroar's dash attack. | ||
*In-game parameters reveal that Captain Falcon's Knee Smash was planned to have the Special Zoom effect, although it is not active in the final game. | |||
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== | ==See also== | ||
*[[Captain Falcon (SSBM)/Forward aerial|Captain Falcon's forward aerial in ''Melee'']] | *[[Captain Falcon (SSBM)/Forward aerial|Captain Falcon's forward aerial in ''Melee'']] | ||
*[[Captain Falcon ( | *[[Captain Falcon (SSB4)/Forward aerial|Captain Falcon's forward aerial in ''SSB4'']] | ||
*[[Lightning Kick]] | *[[Lightning Kick]] | ||