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'''Ivysaur''' ({{ja|フシギソウ|Fushigisō}}, ''Fushigisou''), stylized as '''IVYSAUR''' in Europe, is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' in a sense; it is one of three Pokémon that are played through {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}}, the other two being {{SSBB|Squirtle}} and {{SSBB|Charizard}}. Ivysaur originated from the original ''Pokémon'' game for Game Boy as the first evolved form of {{pkmn|Bulbasaur}}, one of the initial Pokémon the player can start out with at the beginning of the adventure.
'''Ivysaur''' ({{ja|フシギソウ|Fushigisō}}, ''Fushigisou''), stylized as '''IVYSAUR''' in Europe, is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' in a sense; it is one of three Pokémon that are played through {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}}, the other two being {{SSBB|Squirtle}} and {{SSBB|Charizard}}. Ivysaur originated from the original ''Pokémon'' game for Game Boy as the first evolved form of [[Bulbapedia:Bulbasaur|Bulbasaur]], one of the initial Pokémon the player can start out with at the beginning of the adventure.


Unlike a majority of the characters, Ivysaur has different voice actors, which depend on the region and language. The voice actors respectively are as follows:
Unlike a majority of the characters, Ivysaur has different voice actors, which depend on the region and language. The voice actors respectively are as follows:
*In English: Craig Blair
*In English: Craig Blair
*In French: Unknown
*In French: Jean-Marc Delhausse
*In German: Achim Barrenstein
*In German: Achim Barrenstein
*In Japanese: Tomoko Kawakami
*In Japanese: Tomoko Kawakami
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==Attributes==
==Attributes==
Ivysaur is perhaps the most difficult Pokémon to play out of the three. It cannot overpower its foes with deadly force like Charizard can, nor can it overwhelm foes with a high rate of attack like the nimble Squirtle. Furthermore, Ivysaur's major flaws prevent it from applying the same amount of pressure in a matchup as Pokémon Trainer's other Pokémon.
Ivysaur is perhaps the most difficult Pokémon to play out of the three. It cannot overpower its foes with deadly force like Charizard can, nor can it overwhelm foes with a high rate of attack like the nimble Squirtle. Furthermore, Ivysaur's major flaws prevent it from applying the same amount of pressure in a matchup as Pokémon Trainer's other Pokémon.
 
KOing is one of Ivysaur's big problems. Ivysaur's two most KO-capable smashes are powerful but slow. Its forward smash deals high knockback, but has rather high startup and ending lag, while its up smash, despite being the strongest up smash in the game, suffers from high startup lag and a difficult-to-land hitbox that doesn't cover much horizontal distance. Ivysaur's forward aerial, its other vertical finisher, only begins to KO at around 130%. A sweetspotted [[Vine Whip]] can make for a superb surprise KO, but its diagonal trajectory makes it difficult to land, and leaves it [[helpless]] and vulnerable to punishment in midair. Ivysaur can pop off a dash attack for a quick and rather powerful headbutt KO, but the dashing animation makes the attack highly predictable and is easily blocked by shielding. Getting KOs is worsened by the Pokémon Trainer stamina trait, should Ivysaur get tired, decreasing the knockback on all of its attacks.
KOing is one of Ivysaur's big problems. Ivysaur's two most KO-capable smashes are powerful but slow. Its forward smash deals high knockback, but has rather high startup and ending lag, while its up smash, despite being the strongest up smash in the game, suffers from high startup lag and a difficult-to-land hitbox that doesn't cover much horizontal distance. Ivysaur's forward aerial, its other vertical finisher, only begins to KO at around 130%. A sweetspotted [[Vine Whip]] can make for a superb surprise KO, but its diagonal trajectory makes it difficult to land, and leaves it [[helpless]] and vulnerable to punishment in midair. Ivysaur can pop off a dash attack for a quick and rather powerful headbutt KO, but the dashing animation makes the attack highly predictable and is easily blocked by shielding. Getting KOs is worsened by the Pokémon Trainer stamina trait, should Ivysaur get tired, decreasing the knockback on all of its attacks.


Ivysaur's special moves are generally mediocre. [[Bullet Seed]] has the potential to deal upwards of 30% to an enemy, but to be knocked into the seeds, the opponent must be hit by a tiny hitbox on Ivysaur's sides at the start of the move, making it difficult to set up. The seeds are also easily [[SDI]]'ed out of, and the high ending lag leaves Ivysaur vulnerable to punishment if the move misses. [[Razor Leaf]] is Ivysaur's only ranged projectile, but its unpredictable flight path, low knockback, high startup and ending lag, and slow speed render it ineffective for purposes such as [[camping]] and harassing.
Ivysaur's special moves are generally mediocre. [[Bullet Seed]] has the potential to deal upwards of 30% to an enemy, but to be knocked into the seeds, the opponent must be hit by a tiny hitbox on Ivysaur's sides at the start of the move, making it difficult to set up. The seeds are also easily [[SDI]]'ed out of, and the high ending lag leaves Ivysaur vulnerable to punishment if the move misses. [[Razor Leaf]] is Ivysaur's only ranged projectile, but its unpredictable flight path, low knockback, high startup and ending lag, and slow speed render it ineffective for purposes such as [[camping]] and harassing.  


Ivysaur is burdened with its weakness to fire-based knockback. While Squirtle is the only character in the game to do water-based knockback (discounting Mario with his [[F.L.U.D.D.]]), there are many more characters than just Charizard who utilize fire-based knockback in their more powerful moves ({{SSBB|R.O.B.}}, {{SSBB|Ike}}, {{SSBB|Luigi}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, {{SSBB|Mario}}, {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}, {{SSBB|Mr. Game & Watch}}, etc.), and have an easier time KO'ing Ivysaur as a result (one of the most notorious examples of this is Luigi with his [[Fire Jump Punch]], who can KO Ivysaur at as low as 40%. Snake can also KO Ivysaur with a fully-charged side smash at 5% at the ledge.) It also has quite a long rolling dodge animation, making it vulnerable to punishment by an opponent.
Ivysaur is burdened with its weakness to fire-based knockback. While Squirtle is the only character in the game to do water-based knockback (discounting Mario with his [[F.L.U.D.D.]]), there are many more characters than just Charizard who utilize fire-based knockback in their more powerful moves ({{SSBB|R.O.B.}}, {{SSBB|Ike}}, {{SSBB|Luigi}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, {{SSBB|Mario}}, {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}, {{SSBB|Mr. Game & Watch}}, etc.), and have an easier time KO'ing Ivysaur as a result (one of the most notorious examples of this is Luigi with his [[Fire Jump Punch]], who can KO Ivysaur at as low as 40%. Snake can also KO Ivysaur with a fully-charged side smash at 5% at the ledge.) It also has quite a long rolling dodge animation, making it vulnerable to punishment by an opponent.


Ivysaur's worst weaknesses, though, are its atrocious air game and recovery. Ivysaur has a tough time using aerials against opponents offensively, and is frequently at risk to being pushed to the edge while airborne. Its back aerial deals extremely low damage and poor knockback, and its neutral aerial has very short range and can easily be SDI'ed out of. His up and down aerial have small vertical hitboxes; combined with the fact that using these moves midair causes a change in Ivysaur's momentum, these moves are very difficult to land. While his up aerial delivers powerful vertical knockback, his down aerial is an extremely weak [[meteor smash]] that doesn't deal meaningful knockback until very high percents, making it generally ineffective as an edgeguarding tool. Ivysaur's best aerial, his forward aerial, only covers the area directly in front of it, leaving it with few meaningful options while in the air. Its poor aerials, combined with its very slow air speed, severely cripple its aerial game. Furthermore, Ivysaur's recovery is considered among the worst in ''Brawl''. While its midair jump is decent, Ivysaur relies on its [[tether recovery]], [[Vine Whip]] to return to the stage and this move can easily be [[edgehog]]ged by opponents simply grabbing the ledge. This leaves Ivysaur with perhaps the shortest recovery in the game, and completely devastates its ability to recover safely from offstage, often dying to quick [[gimp]]s; A launch offstage is usually enough to nearly guarantee a successful edgeguard on the Pokémon.
Ivysaur's worst weaknesses, though, are its atrocious air game and recovery. Ivysaur has a tough time using aerials against opponents offensively, and is frequently at risk to being pushed to the edge while airborne. Its back aerial deals extremely low damage and poor knockback, and its neutral aerial has very short range and can easily be SDI'ed out of. His up and down aerial have small vertical hitboxes; combined with the fact that using these moves midair causes a change in Ivysaur's momentum, these moves are very difficult to land. While his up aerial delivers powerful vertical knockback, his down aerial is an extremely weak [[meteor smash]] that doesn't deal meaningful knockback until very high percents, making it generally ineffective as an edgeguarding tool. Ivysaur's best aerial, his forward aerial, only covers the area directly in front of it, leaving it with few meaningful options while in the air. Its poor aerials, combined with its very slow air speed, severely cripple its aerial game. Furthermore, Ivysaur's recovery is considered among the worst in ''Brawl''. While its midair jump is decent, Ivysaur relies on its [[tether recovery]], [[Vine Whip]] to return to the stage and this move can easily be [[edgehog]]ged by opponents simply grabbing the ledge. This leaves Ivysaur with perhaps the shortest recovery in the game, and completely devastates its ability to recover safely from offstage, often dying to quick [[gimp]]s; A launch offstage is usually enough to nearly guarantee a successful edgeguard on the Pokémon.


It does have a good grab game, however; Ivysaur's vines give it one of the best [[pivot grab]]s along with {{SSBB|Yoshi}}, and its running grab sports decent range as well (the standing grab, however, has surprisingly low range and a laggy "miss" animation). Once having grabbed, Ivysaur can use either a down or forward throw to maintain stage control.
It does have a good grab game, however; Ivysaur's vines give it one of the best [[pivot grab]]s along with {{SSBB|Yoshi}}, and its running grab sports decent range as well (the standing grab, however, has surprisingly low range and a laggy "miss" animation). Once having grabbed, Ivysaur can use either a down or forward throw to maintain stage control.  


In summary, Ivysaur's difficulties KO'ing opponents, poor air game, laggy attacks, short reach, and atrocious recovery leave it as the clear runt of the litter among the three Generation I starter Pokémon. Competitive players argue that if Ivysaur was a standalone fighter, due to its lack of prominent strengths and debilitating flaws, it would be a contender for the worst character in the game, competing with bottom-tier characters such as {{SSBB|Link}}, {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSBB|Zelda}}, and {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} with some players putting it as the single worst character in the game.
In summary, Ivysaur's difficulties KO'ing opponents, poor air game, laggy attacks, short reach, and atrocious recovery leave it as the clear runt of the litter among the three Generation I starter Pokémon. Competitive players argue that if Ivysaur was a standalone fighter, due to its lack of prominent strengths and debilitating flaws, it would be a contender for the worst character in the game, competing with bottom-tier characters such as {{SSBB|Link}}, {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSBB|Zelda}}, and {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} with some players putting it as the single worst character in the game.


==Moveset==
==Moveset==
''For a gallery of Ivysaur's hitboxes, see [[Ivysaur (SSBB)/Hitboxes|here]].''
{{MovesetTable
{{MovesetTable
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|fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|16}}
|fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|16}}
|fsmashdesc=Ivysaur plants its vines on the ground and launches its body forward. Can be angled.
|fsmashdesc=Ivysaur plants its vines on the ground and launches its body forward. Can be angled.
|usmashname=Exploding Flower ({{ja|ばくれつフラワー|Bakuretsu Furawā}})
|usmashname=Exploding Flower
|usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|17}}
|usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|17}}
|usmashdesc=Ivysaur launches a burst of spores from its bulb. It is the strongest up smash in terms of knockback and has decent range.
|usmashdesc=Ivysaur launches a burst of spores from its bulb. It is the strongest up smash in terms of knockback and has decent range.
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|fsdmg=1% (SolarBeam)
|fsdmg=1% (SolarBeam)
|fsdesc=The {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} sends out both {{SSBB|Charizard}} and {{SSBB|Squirtle}} and all three Pokémon perform a combination attack.
|fsdesc=The {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} sends out both {{SSBB|Charizard}} and {{SSBB|Squirtle}} and all three Pokémon perform a combination attack.
}}
===Stats===
{{technical data|Needs short hop and double jump heights}}
{{Attributes
|cast      = 39
|weight    = 100
|rweight    = 15-16
|dash      = 1.4
|rdash      = 22-27
|run        = 1.5
|rrun      = 17-20
|walk      = 1.05
|rwalk      = 21-22
|trac      = 0.0532
|rtrac      = 27
|airfric    = 0.014
|rairfric  = 13-14
|air        = 0.752
|rair      = 36-37
|baseaccel  = 0.01
|rbaseaccel = 7-36
|addaccel  = 0.085
|raddaccel  = 8-9
|gravity    = 0.07
|rgravity  = 28-29
|fall      = 1.35
|rfall      = 22-23
|ff        = 1.89
|rff        = 25-26
|jumpsquat  = 5
|rjumpsquat = 11-26
|jumpheight = 32.25446429
|rjumpheight= 23
|shorthop  = ?
|rshorthop  = ?
|djump      = ?
|rdjump    = ?
|ellag      = 3
|rellag    = 1-29
}}
}}


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|char=Ivysaur}}
|char=Ivysaur}}


==In Solo Modes==
==In [[competitive play]]==
==={{SSBB|Classic Mode}}===
===Matchups===
In Classic Mode, Pokémon Trainer can appear as an opponent or ally in Stage 3 along with {{SSBB|Pikachu}}, {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}, and {{SSBB|Lucario}} on [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] or [[Spear Pillar]] (with the latter available if it has been unlocked). Pokémon Trainer can also appear as an opponent in Stage 11, but only if he hasn't appeared in Stage 3.
{{SSBBMatchupTable|pokemontrainer=yes|ivysaur=yes}}


===[[All-Star Mode]]===
==Role in [[The Subspace Emissary]]==
In All-Star Mode, Pokémon Trainer is fought in Stage 18 alongside {{SSBB|Pikachu}}, {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}, and {{SSBB|Lucario}} on [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] or [[Spear Pillar]] (with the latter available if it has been unlocked). Uniquely, the player must KO Pokémon Trainer three times to progress.
[[File:Ivysaur Subspace Emissary.png|thumb|300px|Ivysaur as a trophy in The Subspace Emissary.]]
{{main|Pokémon Trainer (SSBB)#Role in The Subspace Emissary|l1=Pokémon Trainer}}
While in [[The Ruins]], {{SSBB|Lucas}} and Pokémon Trainer discover Ivysaur in [[trophy]] form at the end of a torch-lit hallway. Pokémon Trainer then throws a [[Poké Ball]] at the trophy to capture Ivysaur, adding it to his team alongside {{SSBB|Squirtle}}. It is unknown why Ivysaur is a trophy, and why it is in the ruins.


===[[Event Match]]es===
==In [[Event Matches]]==
''Note: Ivysaur is only featured in one event that does not include the Pokémon Trainer.''
''Note: Ivysaur is only featured in one event that does not include the Pokémon Trainer.''  


====Solo Events====
===Solo Events===
*'''[[Event 8: Go! Triple Finish!]]''': The player controls Pikachu, who must defeat {{SSBB|Squirtle}}, Ivysaur, and {{SSBB|Charizard}} on [[Pokémon Stadium]].
*'''[[Event 8: Go! Triple Finish!]]''': The player controls Pikachu, who must defeat {{SSBB|Squirtle}}, Ivysaur, and {{SSBB|Charizard}} on [[Pokémon Stadium]].


===[[Congratulations_screen#Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl|Congratulations Screens]]===
==[[Trophy]]==
Ivysaur's trophy is obtained by clearing {{SSBB|Classic Mode}} with the Pokémon Trainer and must deliver the final hit to {{SSBB|Master Hand}} with Ivysaur.
 
:'''Ivysaur'''
::''A Seed Pokémon that is the evolved form of Bulbasaur. It has a flower bulb on its back, the weight of which has made it develop strong legs and hips. If the blossom gets too big, the Pokémon can't stand on two legs alone. At a certain level, it evolves into Venusaur. When this happens, the bulb absorbs nutrients and blossoms into a large-petaled flower.''
 
{{Trophy games|console1=GB|game1={{iw|bulbapedia|Pokémon Red/Blue}}|console2=GBA|game2={{iw|bulbapedia|Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen}}}}
 
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Pokemon Trainer Congratulations Screen Classic Mode Brawl.png|Classic Mode
Ivysaur - Brawl Trophy.png|Classic
Pokemon Trainer Congratulations Screen All-Star Brawl.png|All-Star Mode
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</gallery>
</center>
</center>
==Role in [[The Subspace Emissary]]==
[[File:Ivysaur Subspace Emissary.png|thumb|300px|Ivysaur as a trophy in ''[[SSE]]''.]]
{{main|Pokémon Trainer (SSBB)#Role in The Subspace Emissary|l1=Pokémon Trainer}}
While in [[The Ruins]], {{SSBB|Lucas}} and {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} discover Ivysaur in [[trophy]] form at the end of a torch-lit hallway. Pokémon Trainer then throws a [[Poké Ball]] at the trophy to capture Ivysaur, adding it to his team alongside {{SSBB|Squirtle}}. It is unknown why Ivysaur is a trophy, and why it is in the ruins.
===Exclusive [[stickers]]===
These stickers can only be used by Pokémon Trainer or a select few including him.
*Akari Hayami: [Water] Attack +8
*Barkle: [Tail] Attack +32
*Bellossom: [Grass] Attack +8
*Blathers: [Tail] Attack +7
*Bone Dragon: [Bite] Attack +13
*Bowser Jr. (Super Mario Sunshine): [Tail] Attack +25
*Boxy: [Bite] Attack +24
*Bubble Baby Mario: [Bite] Attack +6
*Burt the Bashful: [Bite] Attack +6
*Celebi: [Grass] Attack +14
*Chain Chomp: [Bite] Attack +23
*Chaos: [Arm, Leg] Attack +10
*Chihuahua: [Tail] Attack +12
*Crazee Dayzee: [Grass] Attack +7
*Deoxys: [Slash] Attack +10
*Entei: [Fire] Attack +20
*Fairy: [Tail] Attack +7
*Goldeen: [Leg] Attack +4
*Groudon: [Flame] Resistance +14
*Gulpin: [Electric] Attack +16
*Ivysaur: [Grass] Attack +29
*Jigglypuff: [Body, Spin] Attack +31
*Jirachi: [Arm, Leg] Attack +7
*Latias & Latios: [Grass] Attack +22
*Lugia: [Grass] Attack +18
*Master Belch: [Bite] Attack +9
*Meowth: [Slash] Attack +5
*Metagross: Launch Resistance +23
*Mew: [Body, Spin] Attack +4
*Moltres: [Flame] Attack +20
*Petey Piranha (Super Mario Strikers): [Bite] Attack +32
*Piplup: [Water] Attack +26
*Pokémon Trainer: [Arm, Leg] Attack +13
*Rogue The Bat: [Tail] Attack +10
*Ryota Hayami: [Water] Attack +34
*Sable: [Bite] Attack +6
*Saharah: [Water] Attack +8
*Seiuchi-kun: [Water] Attack +18
*Spitz: [Tail] Attack +12
*Squirtle: [Water] Attack +41
*Stafy: [Tail] Attack +7
*Staryu: [Specials: Direct] Attack +3
*Suicune: [Grass] Attack +17
*Togepi: [Body, Spin] Attack +11
*Torchic: [Fire] Attack +8
*Weavile: [Slash] Attack +5
*Wario (Super Mario Strikers): [Bite] Attack +15
*Warrior Ing: [Bite] Attack +10
*Water Fairy Elias: [Water] Attack +30
===Using stickers===
All three of Pokémon Trainer's Pokémon share the same trophy base.
If the player wishes to power up Ivysaur specifically, [Grass] and [Body, Spin] will supply the greatest power boosts. [Flame] Resistance will also work to combat Ivysaur's fire weakness. The remaining relevant attacks are spread between [Leg] and [Head].
If the player wishes to balance between the three, the major attacks Ivysaur shares with Squirtle are [Leg] and [Spin] attacks, and shares [Leg] and [Head] attacks with Charizard.
==[[Trophy]]==
Ivysaur's trophy is obtained by clearing {{SSBB|Classic Mode}} with the Pokémon Trainer and must deliver the final hit to {{SSBB|Master Hand}} with Ivysaur.
{{Trophy/Fighter
|name=Ivysaur
|image=Ivysaur - Brawl Trophy.png
|mode=Classic
|desc=A Seed Pokémon that is the evolved form of Bulbasaur. It has a flower bulb on its back, the weight of which has made it develop strong legs and hips. If the bud gets too big, the Pokémon can't stand on two legs alone. At a certain level, it evolves into Venusaur. When this happens, the bulb absorbs nutrients and blossoms into a large-petaled flower.
|gamelist={{Trophy games|console1=GB|game1=Pokémon Red/Blue|console2=GBA|game2=Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen}}
|game=Brawl
}}
{{clrl}}


==[[Alternate costume (SSBB)#Pokémon Trainer|Alternate costumes]]==
==[[Alternate costume (SSBB)#Pokémon Trainer|Alternate costumes]]==
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|{{Head|Ivysaur|g=SSBB|s=25px|cl=White}}
|{{Head|Ivysaur|g=SSBB|s=25px|cl=White}}
|}
|}
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