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Seeing as how the [[Forum:Smash Remix content|prior proposal]] passed with option 3 (Mod page and character icons), I figured I'd start another proposal for further coverage on ''[[Smash Remix]]''. | Seeing as how the [[Forum:Smash Remix content|prior proposal]] passed with option 3 (Mod page and character icons), I figured I'd start another proposal for further coverage on ''[[Smash Remix]]''. | ||
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#For what it's worth, the Smash 64 community has never been that big/had much exposure aside from a couple of large tournaments such as Smash Con. The fact that Smash Remix often matches the size of Smash 64 entrants in tournaments and has top 64 players in attendance shows how popular the game is within the community, and in my opinion that's really enough for it to get full coverage. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 22:49, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | #For what it's worth, the Smash 64 community has never been that big/had much exposure aside from a couple of large tournaments such as Smash Con. The fact that Smash Remix often matches the size of Smash 64 entrants in tournaments and has top 64 players in attendance shows how popular the game is within the community, and in my opinion that's really enough for it to get full coverage. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 22:49, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | ||
#I have slight concern for "opening up the floodgates", in a sense, but I do simultaneously feel that Project M already opened the floodgates. I'm fine with covering the really popular ones, especially ones that add lots of new content and build on what made the original game fun (yes, I have my fingers crossed that Akaneia reaches this point as well). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Gamer'''</span>]] 00:57, April 18, 2023 (EDT) | #I have slight concern for "opening up the floodgates", in a sense, but I do simultaneously feel that Project M already opened the floodgates. I'm fine with covering the really popular ones, especially ones that add lots of new content and build on what made the original game fun (yes, I have my fingers crossed that Akaneia reaches this point as well). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Gamer'''</span>]] 00:57, April 18, 2023 (EDT) | ||
==Oppose== | ==Oppose== | ||
#The main reason I only kinda grudgingly accepted PM was that it got actual coverage from mainstream sources (e.g. IGN). I don't think Smash Remix has reached that point. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Frivolous 22:16, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | #The main reason I only kinda grudgingly accepted PM was that it got actual coverage from mainstream sources (e.g. IGN). I don't think Smash Remix has reached that point. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Frivolous 22:16, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | ||
#:I clarified this on the Discord, so I'll do the same here: There may be several articles on various sites of the form "hey this mod is cool you should check it out". This is not what I'm looking for. At its peak, PM had major gaming sites hosting guides and walkthroughs for it as if it were its own independent release. That's the sort of notoriety I think a mod needs to even try to deserve this status. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Keymaster 07:35, April 18, 2023 (EDT) | #:I clarified this on the Discord, so I'll do the same here: There may be several articles on various sites of the form "hey this mod is cool you should check it out". This is not what I'm looking for. At its peak, PM had major gaming sites hosting guides and walkthroughs for it as if it were its own independent release. That's the sort of notoriety I think a mod needs to even try to deserve this status. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Keymaster 07:35, April 18, 2023 (EDT) | ||
#'''Oppose''' as per Toomai. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:41, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | #'''Oppose''' as per Toomai. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:41, April 17, 2023 (EDT) | ||
==Comments== | ==Comments== | ||
Looking through the Smash 64 community, I've noticed that at least a sizable portion community members almost see Remix as an outright replacement to the original. Hell, they still use Remix for "vanilla" events where they'll only allow the vanilla cast, solely because of the QoL enhancements it brings. It seems that the only thing stopping it from actually being a replacement is that larger events are terrified of running modded Smash events due to what happened to P+ (and for all I know, they may still be run under the hood anyway). If we consider each Smash title as its own "thing", then I see even less reason to not cover Remix further than before. --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 02:40, May 6, 2023 (EDT) | Looking through the Smash 64 community, I've noticed that at least a sizable portion community members almost see Remix as an outright replacement to the original. Hell, they still use Remix for "vanilla" events where they'll only allow the vanilla cast, solely because of the QoL enhancements it brings. It seems that the only thing stopping it from actually being a replacement is that larger events are terrified of running modded Smash events due to what happened to P+ (and for all I know, they may still be run under the hood anyway). If we consider each Smash title as its own "thing", then I see even less reason to not cover Remix further than before. --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 02:40, May 6, 2023 (EDT) | ||