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| Smash 4 (joke) tier list 3.0 is here! 3 more veterans added to the list, and a lot of changes. Next version coming out whenever I feel like a good amount of characters got confirmed. | | Smash 4 (joke) tier list 3.0 is here! 3 more veterans added to the list, and a lot of changes. Next version coming out whenever I feel like a good amount of characters got confirmed. |
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| '''Super Smash Bros. 4 Tier List (V. 3.1)''' | | '''Super Smash Bros. 4 Tier List (V. 3.0)''' |
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| '''S (God)''': | | '''S (God)''': |
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| 4. {{SSB4|Rosalina}} | | 4. {{SSB4|Rosalina}} |
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| 5. {{SSB4|Lucario}} | | 5. {{SSB4|Sonic}} |
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| '''B (Good)''': | | '''B (Good)''': |
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| 6. {{SSB4|Sonic}} | | 6. {{SSB4|Marth}} |
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| 7. {{SSB4|Marth}} | | 7. {{SSB4|Lucario}} |
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| 8. {{SSB4|Fox}} | | 8. {{SSB4|Fox}} |
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| 12. {{SSB4|Pikachu}} | | 12. {{SSB4|Pikachu}} |
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| 13. {{SSB4|Little Mac}} | | 13. {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}} |
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| 14. {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}} | | 14. {{SSB4|Pit}} |
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| 15. {{SSB4|Pit}} | | 15. {{SSB4|Donkey Kong}} |
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| '''D (Bad)''': | | '''D (Bad)''': |
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| 16. {{SSB4|Donkey Kong}} | | 16. {{SSB4|Link}} |
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| 17. {{SSB4|Link}} | | 17. {{SSB4|Bowser}} |
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| 18. {{SSB4|Bowser}} | | 18. {{SSB4|Kirby}} |
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| 19. {{SSB4|Kirby}}
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| '''F (Horrible)''' | | '''F (Horrible)''' |
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| 20. {{SSB4|Luigi}}
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| 21. {{SSB4|Samus}}
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| 22. {{SSB4|Mario}}
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| 23. {{SSB4|Zelda}}
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| Thanks to NutsBazooka stating Bowser will be faster and more powerful, Bowser's placement got a little bit higher to 17, and Link got up to 16 because his buffed dair. I think Lucario will get into a high place because the aura concept will be better and that could be a real game changer. Villager got moved up to 2 because a lot of his moves seem really good, and his grab may do well (he may be the next Mr. Game & Watch). Also, Mega Man is still 1 because he's badass like that and Zelda is last because, well, she's Zelda. [[Special:Contributions/70.15.29.127|70.15.29.127]] 17:47, 1 February 2014 (EST) | | Thanks to NutsBazooka stating Bowser will be faster and more powerful, Bowser's placement got a little bit higher to 17, and Link got up to 16 because his buffed dair. I think Lucario will get into a high place because the aura concept will be better and that could be a real game changer. Villager got moved up to 2 because a lot of his moves seem really good, and his grab may do well (he may be the next Mr. Game & Watch). Also, Mega Man is still 1 because he's badass like that and Zelda is last because, well, she's Zelda. [[Special:Contributions/70.15.29.127|70.15.29.127]] 17:47, 1 February 2014 (EST) |
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| Smash 4 tier list 3.1 because Little Mac. Nothing big, just added Mac and Lucario gained up to 5 because he seems to be buffed a lot for this game. Mac is Average because although his moves are very strong (Heck his neutral special is an OHKO!), but his aerial attacks and recovery looks awful. <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<font color="grey">Terrible</font>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<font color="green">is</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<font color="pink">a Valentine</font>]]</span> 19:42, 13 February 2014 (EST)
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| I don't think that Rosalina should be as high on the tier list as she is. Screenshots say she is very tall and floaty, and some gameplay shows that lots of her moves(especially her bair) are slow. But don't make her too low, as she does have that Luma to help her out. [[User:ViciousViridian|VICIOUS VIRIDIAN!!!!!!]] ([[User talk:ViciousViridian|talk]]) 22:37, 3 March 2014 (EST)
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| :Actually, from what I see, her edge-guarding seems unsurpassed, as she seems to possess a few great gimping moves and a fast meteor smash. [[User:Requiem of Ice|Requiem of Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem of Ice|talk]]) 01:45, 4 March 2014 (EST)
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| Here's my joke tier list 'w':
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| '''S+ (Broken Tier)'''
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| 1. Rosalina (With that Luma and fast meteor, she's gonna be edgeguarding queen.)
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| 2. Little Mac (One hit KO anyone?)
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| 3. Link (Regain of his Melee stats and an additional Meteor...dat meteor.)
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| 4. Marth (Already fabulous enough)
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| '''S (HADOKEN Tier)'''
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| 5. Lucario
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| '''A (Astroid Tier)'''
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| 6. Toon Link
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| 7. Diddy Kong
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| 8. Fox
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| 9. Pikachu
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| 10. Peach
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| '''B (Weegee Tier)'''
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| 11. Luigi
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| 12. King Dedede
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| 13. Mario
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| 14. Olimar
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| 15. Bowser
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| 16. Pit
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| '''C (Bad Tier)'''
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| 17. Kirby
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| 18. Samus
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| 19. Mega Man
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| '''D ("Probably Gonna Fail The Real One" Tier)'''
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| 20. Villager
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| 21. Donkey Kong
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| 22. Wii Fit Trainer
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| 23. Zelda
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| Derp! Here it is, in all it's joking glory XD [[User:Requiem of Ice|Requiem of Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem of Ice|talk]]) 01:45, 4 March 2014 (EST)
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| == SageOfMuzzyness' Smash 4 silly but probable tier list ==
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| Here it is.
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| '''S (Broken Gods)'''
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| 1. {{SSB4|Little Mac}}
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| 2. {{SSB4|Mega Man}}
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| '''A (Lesser Greater Gods)'''
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| 3. {{SSB4|Rosalina}}
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| 4. {{SSB4|Olimar}}
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| 5. {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}
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| 6. {{SSB4|Marth}}
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| 7. {{SSB4|Villager}}
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| '''B (Powerful)'''
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| 8. {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}}
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| 9. {{SSB4|Pikachu}}
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| 10. {{SSB4|Lucario}}
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| '''C (Good)'''
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| 11. {{SSB4|King Dedede}}
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| 12. {{SSB4|Toon Link}}
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| 13. {{SSB4|Pit}}
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| 14. {{SSB4|Fox}}
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| '''D (Mediocre)'''
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| 15. {{SSB4|Donkey Kong}}
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| 16. {{SSB4|Sonic}}
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| 17. {{SSB4|Kirby}}
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| 18. {{SSB4|Peach}}
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| 19. {{SSB4|Zelda}}
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| '''E (Bad)'''
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| 20. {{SSB4|Luigi}}
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| 21. {{SSB4|Bowser}}
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| '''F (POOP)'''
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| 22. {{SSB4|Samus}}
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| 23. {{SSB4|Link}}
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| 24. {{SSB4|Mario}}
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| --<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SageOfMuzzyness|SageOfMuzzyness]] ([[User talk:SageOfMuzzyness|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SageOfMuzzyness|contribs]]) {{{2}}}</small>
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| :Why has Mario been on the bottom of nearly every list? Sure, there hasn't been anything new or interesting revealed about Mario yet, but I wouldn't count him down for the count. It seems he's going to get some major buffs, and judging by the patterns at which these lists are ordered (buffed characters in Brawl have seen drops, and characters that have always been bad or mediocre are still on the bottom while newcomers and personal favorites/top tiers from Brawl populate the top), most of you have ignored the fact that Sakurai intends to take SSB4 in a new direction rather than "fixing" the previous game (basically, he's not going to just buff bad characters and nerf good ones). <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 16:13, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
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| The [[fish]] has been [http://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzR1WD6QguxHTtf confirmed to return]. All of these supposed "tier lists" are fraudulent when they do not have the fish alone in the Omega God tier. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:54, 22 April 2014 (EDT)
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| :No word on the Cucco's status (we don't know if it's a regular item or an assist trophy), so on the off chance that it's actually playable, I think the Cucco would surpass The Fish in the Ultra SSS Tier. The Cucco will undoubtedly have a superior aerial game and stronger attacks, and its greatest attribute will be its gimmick similar to Lucario's; the more damage it takes, the more CPU-controlled Cucco's appear (all Level 10), which means you'll be able to do loads of damage with just one attack. <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 15:45, 22 April 2014 (EDT)
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| :At least make Mega Man at first. :P [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Portal 18:22, 22 April 2014 (EDT)
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| == First three months tier list ==
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| Being this early within the metagame, I can't give an exact fix on what the ''[[Smash 4]]'' tier list will actually look like but this is how it goes so far in my opinion.
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| ===S===
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| 1. Diddy Kong
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| 2. Rosalina & Luma
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| 3. Sheik
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| ===A===
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| 4. Yoshi
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| 5. Zero Suit Samus
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| 6. Lucario
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| 7. Sonic
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| 8. Greninja
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| 9. Captain Falcon
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| ===B===
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| 10. Ness
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| 11. Pikachu
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| 12. Duck Hunt
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| 13. Fox
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| 14. Marth
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| 15. Robin
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| 16. Toon Link
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| ===C===
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| 18. R.O.B.
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| 19. Mario
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| 20. Peach
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| 21. Link
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| 22. Dark Pit
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| 23. Pit
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| 24. Shulk
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| 25. Little Mac
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| ===D===
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| 27. Samus
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| 28. Mega Man
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| 30. Kirby
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| 32. Dr. Mario
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| So what do you guys think? [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Pollyanna 09:53, 12 December 2014 (EST)
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| :If you want my honset opinion, Duck Hunt isn't that low, Sheik's not that high, Lucario should be a bit higher, Marth belongs at the bottom, and Robin is definitely top. But that's probably just me. I'd make my own, but I have yet to fully analyze every character. [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 11:01, 12 December 2014 (EST)
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| ::Duck Hunt seems to be high in my opinion while because of Sheik's great performance in tournaments, I personally think she should be top tier. Even though the Japanese tier list ranks Marth like 40 places below Fox, I still think he's still good. :P [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Doomguy 11:10, 12 December 2014 (EST)
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| ::Sheik is in the top 3 no doubt; only real problem is her extreme lack of KO'ing power compared to the other top tiers. She probably has the best neutral game by some margin, and her combos and edgeguards are very versatile to the point of her having a lot of options in pretty much any situation. I have a hard time determining who is better between Sheik and Rosalina, though they're definitely in the top 3 below Diddy. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 11:22, 12 December 2014 (EST)
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| :What exactly makes Wii Fit Trainer absolute bottom? Bad hitbox placement? She's definitely in the lower parts of the tier list, but I'd put Ganondorf, Zelda, or Palutena in the bottom spot instead of her.
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| :Also, between the top tier and the bottom tier, is there is more or less "balance" compared to the previous games in the series?
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| :--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>, 01:46, 15 December 2014 (EST)
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| ::I would probably say that Smash 4 is on par for most balance with Melee. About who should probably be at the very bottom, the ones you said are possible canadates although I personally don't think Ganondorf should be bottom again. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Gamer 10:13, 15 December 2014 (EST)
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| Question, do you guys also think Link, Fox, Shulk, Falco, and Meta Knight should be higher on this list? Just wondering. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Asian 10:09, 15 December 2014 (EST)
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| #Smash 4 is more balanced than Melee. While, yes, there are certain bad characters and certain good characters, the differences between the two sections are like Meta Knight vs the rest of the Brawl cast. That said, that's why my tier list has no specific order; rather, it just categorizes them by tiers.
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| #All of them should be higher. Link should not make as big a jump as the others, but all 5 are definitely higher up. [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 10:25, 15 December 2014 (EST)
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| == BlueStreak's Tier List ==
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| This is in no particular order. However, it is still sorted into sections. Let me know what you guys think.
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| ===Top Tier===
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| *Rosalina
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| *Robin
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| *Duck Hunt
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| *Lucario
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| *Zero Suit Samus
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| *Yoshi
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| *Shulk
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| ===High Tier===
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| *Sonic
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| *Greninja
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| *Captain Falcon
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| *Bowser Jr.
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| *Diddy Kong
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| *Toon Link
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| *Meta Knight
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| *Falco
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| *Pikachu
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| *Dark Pit
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| *King Dedede
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| ===Middle Tier===
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| *Ganondorf
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| *Charizard
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| *Fox
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| *Sheik
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| *Bowser
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| *Zelda
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| *Samus
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| *Pit
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| *Palutena
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| *Ike
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| *Kirby
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| *Little Mac
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| *Lucina
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| *Peach
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| ===Low Tier===
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| *Mario
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| *Luigi
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| *Wario
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| *Mr. Game & Watch
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| *Donkey Kong
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| *Link
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| *Jigglypuff
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| *R.O.B.
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| *Ness
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| *Dr. Mario
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| *Pac-Man
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| *Mega Man
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| ===Bottom Tier===
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| *Marth
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| *Olimar
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| *Villager
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| *Wii Fit Trainer
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| [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 11:26, 12 December 2014 (EST)
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