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For too long, we have gone without a standard for what's considered an accepted source (outside of direct mentions by the Smash series) for naming characters' moves. That's about to change here. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 23:38, 22 January 2018 (EST) | For too long, we have gone without a standard for what's considered an accepted source (outside of direct mentions by the Smash series) for naming characters' moves. That's about to change here. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 23:38, 22 January 2018 (EST) | ||
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'''Support'''. At least it is associated with Nintendo of America. That's something unlike the below option. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 12:32, 23 January 2018 (EST) | '''Support'''. At least it is associated with Nintendo of America. That's something unlike the below option. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 12:32, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
==Prima== | ==Prima== | ||
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'''Complete and utter oppose.''' Prima guides have never been that reliable at giving out information to begin with. I'm completely siding with Miles on this one. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:Beep|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:Beep|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 23:54, 22 January 2018 (EST) | '''Complete and utter oppose.''' Prima guides have never been that reliable at giving out information to begin with. I'm completely siding with Miles on this one. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:Beep|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:Beep|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 23:54, 22 January 2018 (EST) | ||
'''Oppose''' per others. | '''Oppose''' per others. {{unsigned|Nyargleblargle|07:06, January 23, 2018}} | ||
'''No.''' [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 10:15, 23 January 2018 (EST) | '''No.''' [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 10:15, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
'''Lol oppose'''. Prima has been know for their errors and bias in strategy | '''Lol oppose'''. Prima has been know for their errors and bias in strategy guide games. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 12:32, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
==Comparable moves from each characters' source games== | ==Comparable moves from each characters' source games== | ||
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'''Oppose''' because it's inconsistent. Not every SSBM move comes from a native game. For example, Ganandorf in SSBM is nothing at all like Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, etc. There will be too many unnamed moves. [[User:SeraphStar|SeraphStar]] ([[User talk:SeraphStar|talk]]) 01:37, 23 January 2018 (EST) | '''Oppose''' because it's inconsistent. Not every SSBM move comes from a native game. For example, Ganandorf in SSBM is nothing at all like Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, etc. There will be too many unnamed moves. [[User:SeraphStar|SeraphStar]] ([[User talk:SeraphStar|talk]]) 01:37, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
:I fail to see what relevancy this opposition has. Original moves aren't an unusual thing to Smash. This isn't about whether every single move has a name; this is about moves that are clearly based on attacks from a character's home series being named here, even if they aren't named officially as such by Nintendo. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 08:17, 23 January 2018 (EST) | :I fail to see what relevancy this opposition has. Original moves aren't an unusual thing to Smash. This isn't about whether every single move has a name; this is about moves that are clearly based on attacks from a character's home series being named here, even if they aren't named officially as such by Nintendo. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 08:17, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
:: | ::And most attacks in SSBM aren't based on moves in home series and/or don't have names in home series, so how was my point not relevant? [[User:SeraphStar|SeraphStar]] ([[User talk:SeraphStar|talk]]) 15:12, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
'''Oppose''' per SK, plus where do we consider the line to be drawn with "comparable"? [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 08:06, 23 January 2018 (EST) | '''Oppose''' per SK, plus where do we consider the line to be drawn with "comparable"? [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 08:06, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
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'''Support'''. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 12:32, 23 January 2018 (EST) | '''Support'''. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 12:32, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
==Whatever matches the Japanese names, regardless of source== | ==Whatever matches the Japanese names, regardless of source== | ||
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'''Support''', since this is a reasonable thing to do if we don't agree on using source material. Though, as a side note, what would this mean for [[Mario (SSB4)/Up aerial|moves that are named in Japanese, but not in English]]? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 10:15, 23 January 2018 (EST) | '''Support''', since this is a reasonable thing to do if we don't agree on using source material. Though, as a side note, what would this mean for [[Mario (SSB4)/Up aerial|moves that are named in Japanese, but not in English]]? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 10:15, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
'''Support'''. Easy and simple to follow this way. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 12:32, 23 January 2018 (EST) | '''Support'''. Easy and simple to follow this way. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 12:32, 23 January 2018 (EST) | ||
