Editing Forum:Mario's FLUDD

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Okay, anybody likes the new Down B of Mario, the FLUDD?
Personally, i don't like it, i don't see any use for it, other for gimping recoveries.
For me, Mario should have the Spin Attack from Mario Galaxy as Down B. (It would stun enemy for a short time) or the ability to launch Starbits at the enemy.
What do you think?
:I think he should've just kept Mario Tornado. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:purple">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></small></font> 00:26, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Keep mario tornado and make fludd an item. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]])
:I like that idea [[User:Cree318|Cree318]] ([[User talk:Cree318|talk]]) 14:30, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::I kinda like Mario Tornado as a Dair.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 06:19, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I find the F.L.U.D.D. useful. Keep it limited to Mario, and to the person who doesn't like FLUDD, isn't it super useful that it DOES gimp recoveries? I'm not complaining, I'm just wondering on why you don't like it even with it's usefulness? [[User:Learner4|Learner4]] ([[User talk:Learner4|talk]]) 21:09, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
::::I've used FLUDD numerous times, and even though it does push foes back, they always recover anyway. It also needs to cause some damage. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:purple">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></small></font> 00:27, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

FLUDD works really well with ACE ([[aerial cape extension]]--don't even know if there's an article, actually) because the occasionally-fatal horizontal distance you can get caping off the edge can be somewhat recovered due to Mario's horizontal push-back from FLUDD. So, you can knock someone off the stage, cape off the edge as best you can to chase him while he recovers, FLUDD to push him past the blast line while simultaneously Mario's momentum shifts back towards the stage. From there, you still have two jumps with which to recover. It's a finesse KO, but one of Mario's finest in Brawl. --[[Special:Contributions/70.75.175.95|70.75.175.95]] 00:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
:It looks rather hard to pull off, and I'm unsure of its real usefulness. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:purple">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></small></font> 22:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Can someone check if this can block attacks like Ike's [[Quick Draw]]?  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 01:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:That would be an interesting experiment. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:purple">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></small></font> 22:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
::That and Fox and Falco's Front-B attacks.  That may be the true power of the FLUDD.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 02:17, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::IF it works. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:purple">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></small></font> 05:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I don`t know why Nintendo put this sucky move in Brawl. {{User:Windu223/sig}}(or Windu223)
:They're probably making it so little kids can feel good by beating they're NERFED mascot. [[User:Masterman|<font color="red">Mas</font><font color="Black">ter</font><font color="Blue">man</font>]] [[User talk: Masterman|<font color="Green">What's the matter?</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Brown">Scared?</font>]] 20:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Let me clear this whole thing up ==

FLUDD should've definately been an item. But come on, guys. FLUDD is not that bad. What if Sakurai replaced the Luigi Cyclone with the Poltergeist3000? That would suck, wouldn't it? Let's be glad Luigi kept his spinning attack. Btw, in my SSBR game, Mario gets his tornado back on. ;D <span style="border:2px outset #33cc00;background-color:#ff0000;-moz-border-radius:7px"> [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<font style="font-family:arial black;"><span style="color:#ffffff">Koopa</span>]] [[Image:Koopersshell.gif|19px]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ffffff">Klaus</span></font>]]</span> 20:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

YESH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Masterman|<font color="red">Mas</font><font color="Black">ter</font><font color="Blue">man</font>]] [[User talk: Masterman|<font color="Green">What's the matter?</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Brown">Scared?</font>]] 22:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

It would depend on what poltergust does. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]])
:The tornado is SUCH a crazy move, I wouldn't replace it.  Poltergust would probably bring foes nearer to you (kinda like what gale boomerang does, but without the boomerang).  It would be a very difficult move to use, I would think.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 07:17, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Trust me, I am glad Luigi kept his spinning attack because the Poltergeist3000 would, both like the FLUUD and how I met your mother, suck.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small>
:The problem with FLUDD is that Mario's Cape can do essentially everything it can do, and sometimes better.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 07:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::CH, I hope you're referencing the show and not PA'ing us. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:red">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <small>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:green">'''(Happy Holidays!)'''</span>]]</small></font> 20:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Uh, I think he's referring to the show.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 23:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
The F.L.U.D.D. is actually a lot better and far more useful than Mario's tornado was in Melee; honestly, I can't think of anything the tornado was used for besides recovery and Mario's recovery is actually decent enough now in Brawl to where he doesn't really need it. The F.L.U.D.D. is basically a multi-purpose setup move; F.L.U.D.D. can be used to setup the cape while edgeguarding or be used to help punish moves using FIHL. I think F.L.U.D.D. could have been better, but I'm not too disappointed. [[User:Mario, the classic man of Nintendo|Mario, the classic man of Nintendo]]
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 ::::I've used FLUDD numerous times, and even though it does push foes back, they always recover anyway. It also needs to cause some damage. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:purple">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></small></font> 00:27, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
-FLUDD works really well with ACE ([aerial cape extension]--don't even know if there's an article, actually) because the occasionally-fatal horizontal distance you can get caping off the edge can be somewhat recovered due to Mario's horizontal push-back from FLUDD. So, you can knock someone off the stage, cape off the edge as best you can to chase him while he recovers, FLUDD to push him past the blast line while simultaneously Mario's momentum shifts back towards the stage. From there, you still have two jumps with which to recover. It's a finesse KO, but one of Mario's finest in Brawl. --[[Special:Contributions/70.75.175.95|70.75.175.95]] 00:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
+FLUDD works really well with ACE ([[aerial cape extension]]--don't even know if there's an article, actually) because the occasionally-fatal horizontal distance you can get caping off the edge can be somewhat recovered due to Mario's horizontal push-back from FLUDD. So, you can knock someone off the stage, cape off the edge as best you can to chase him while he recovers, FLUDD to push him past the blast line while simultaneously Mario's momentum shifts back towards the stage. From there, you still have two jumps with which to recover. It's a finesse KO, but one of Mario's finest in Brawl. --[[Special:Contributions/70.75.175.95|70.75.175.95]] 00:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 :It looks rather hard to pull off, and I'm unsure of its real usefulness. - <font face="times new roman">[[User:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:purple">'''GalaxiaD'''</span>]]</font><font face="times new roman"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:GalaxiaD|<span style="color:black">'''Talk'''</span>]]</sup></small></font> 22:54, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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 I don`t know why Nintendo put this sucky move in Brawl. {{User:Windu223/sig}}(or Windu223)
 :They're probably making it so little kids can feel good by beating they're NERFED mascot. [[User:Masterman|<font color="red">Mas</font><font color="Black">ter</font><font color="Blue">man</font>]] [[User talk: Masterman|<font color="Green">What's the matter?</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Brown">Scared?</font>]] 20:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
-:IKR?? [[File:LuigiIcon(SSB4-U).png|40px]][[File:RosalinaIcon(SSB4-U).png|40px]] [[User:OrangeBooloon|<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;color:green">ORANGEBOOLOON</span>]]([[User talk:OrangeBooloon|<span style="color:lightblue">T</span>]]) 18:11, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
-::Don't bump posts/topics that are 5 years old [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 18:15, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
-:::Don't say that to people who were here later than that. [[File:LuigiIcon(SSB4-U).png|40px]][[File:RosalinaIcon(SSB4-U).png|40px]] [[User:OrangeBooloon|<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;color:green">ORANGEBOOLOON</span>]]([[User talk:OrangeBooloon|<span style="color:lightblue">T</span>]]) 18:38, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
-::::This shouldn't matter, per [[SW:TALK]] it's discouraged to bump things that were last responded to years ago. Especially with a pointless post that doesn't mean anything. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 19:00, 9 March 2014 (EDT)
-I will admit FLUDD is not a very good gimp tool, but Mario has other moves. It is more useful than that. [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Gladiator]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 22:35, 23 October 2017 (EDT)
 == Let me clear this whole thing up ==
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 :::Uh, I think he's referring to the show.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 23:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
 The F.L.U.D.D. is actually a lot better and far more useful than Mario's tornado was in Melee; honestly, I can't think of anything the tornado was used for besides recovery and Mario's recovery is actually decent enough now in Brawl to where he doesn't really need it. The F.L.U.D.D. is basically a multi-purpose setup move; F.L.U.D.D. can be used to setup the cape while edgeguarding or be used to help punish moves using FIHL. I think F.L.U.D.D. could have been better, but I'm not too disappointed. [[User:Mario, the classic man of Nintendo|Mario, the classic man of Nintendo]]
-FLUDD is useless. [[User:Jellybeanman|Jellybeanman]] ([[User talk:Jellybeanman|talk]]) 10:54, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
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