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[[File:MarioGuard Cape.jpg|thumb|right|Mario uses his [[Cape]] against Fox trying to use [[Fox Illusion]] as recovery.]] | |||
[[File:MarioGuard Cape.jpg|thumb|Mario uses his [[Cape]] against Fox trying to use [[Fox Illusion]] as recovery.]] | [[File:Wallofpain.gif|thumb|[[Jigglypuff]]'s [[Wall of Pain]] is a well-known edgeguarding technique.]] | ||
[[File:Wallofpain.gif|thumb|[[Jigglypuff]]'s [[ | '''Edge-guarding''' or '''edgeguarding''', also known as '''intercepting''' in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', is the attempt to prevent an off-stage [[recovery|recovering]] opponent from reaching the stage, thus causing them to be [[KO]]'d. Players can achieve this in many ways, and the struggle between an edge-guarder and their recovering opponent often leads to many strategies and [[mindgame]]s. The anti-strategy to this is the [[guard break]]. | ||
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==Execution== | ==Execution== | ||
There are two main methods of edge-guarding. One is to run or jump off the stage and attack; this is often done by characters with great [[jump]]ing ability, which includes multiple jumps and good recoveries such as the [[Robo Burner]]. The other is to stay on the stage and attack the opponent when they recover should they fail to [[edge sweet spot|sweetspot the ledge]]. This is mostly done with down- smashes and tilts, and even some projectiles. | |||
Certain characters are worse at defending themselves from | Any character can edge-guard, although some are better at it than others. A character's ability to edgeguard offstage is determined by two factors: the length and safety of their recovery, and the utility of their aerial attacks. The most prominent example is Meta Knight, as his recovery is effectively immune to edgeguarding, and because his aerials are quick and send opponents on favorable trajectories. However, some characters are strong edgeguarders despite having sub-par recoveries; Ganondorf is the best example. His recovery is slow and short, but all of his aerials are deadly offstage. | ||
Certain characters are worse at defending themselves from edge-guards. These are generally characters with predictable recoveries (like [[Captain Falcon]] or {{SSBB|Ike}}), slow recoveries (like [[Ness]] or {{SSBB|Lucas}}), characters reliant on tether recoveries (like {{SSBB|Olimar}} in ''Brawl'' or {{SSBB|Ivysaur}}), or characters without a damaging recovery move (like {{SSBB|Lucario}} in ''Brawl'' or {{SSB4|Olimar}} in ''SSB4''). | |||
In general, the recoveries of the cast have improved across the games. In ''Smash 64,'' aside from {{SSB|Pikachu}} and, to a smaller extent, {{SSB|Mario}}, all characters have predictable recoveries, leaving them vulnerable to edgeguards, which is further compounded by the game's high [[hitstun]]. | In general, the recoveries of the cast have improved across the games. In ''Smash 64,'' aside from {{SSB|Pikachu}} and, to a smaller extent, {{SSB|Mario}}, all characters have predictable recoveries, leaving them vulnerable to edgeguards, which is further compounded by the game's high [[hitstun]]. | ||
''Melee'' recoveries, while still rather predictable, are benefited by ledge teching. {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} and {{SSBM|Samus}} are well-known for their recovery ability, with the former having arguably the strongest edgeguarding ability in the game. ''Melee'' introduces meteor cancelling, which makes meteor smashes much less potent at securing offstage KO's. However, the increased falling speeds and gravity make | ''Melee'' recoveries, while still rather predictable, are benefited by ledge-teching. {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} and {{SSBM|Samus}} are well-known for their recovery ability, with the former having arguably the strongest edgeguarding ability in the game. ''Melee'' introduces meteor cancelling, which makes meteor smashes much less potent at securing offstage KO's. However, the increased falling speeds and gravity make semi-spikes more effective. Certain attacks, known as spikes, have downwards knockback that are not recognized as meteor smashes, and characters who posses these moves often utilize them in their edgeguarding, most notably {{SSBM|Marth}}. | ||
In ''Brawl,'' recoveries are overall longer, and the larger ledge sweetspots, as well as the auto-sweetspot mechanic, make edgeguarding less effective. The meteor smash recognition window has been expanded, removing the spikes of the previous game. Meta Knight is infamous for his immunity to being edgeguarded, due to his plethora of recovery options, with his recovery being the best not only in ''Brawl,'' but arguably the entire series, and this grants him his powerful offstage game. ''Brawl'' | In ''Brawl,'' recoveries are overall longer, and the larger ledge sweetspots, as well as the auto-sweetspot mechanic, make edgeguarding less effective. The meteor smash recognition window has been expanded, removing the spikes of the previous game. Meta Knight is infamous for his immunity to being edgeguarded, due to the his plethora of recovery options, with his recovery being the best not only in ''Brawl,'' but arguably the entire series, and this grants him his powerful offstage game. ''Brawl'''s floatier physics, low hitstun, meteor cancelling and the aforementioned changes to ledge sweetspots arguably make edge-guarding in this game the least effective out of all four iterations. In these three games, edgehogging is a commonly used tactic to stop opponents who aim their recoveries to the ledge. | ||
In ''Smash 4,'' recoveries on their own were generally buffed, and ledges were reworked to remove [[edgehogging]], reducing the effectiveness of | In ''Smash 4,'' recoveries on their own were generally buffed, and ledges were reworked to remove [[edgehogging]], reducing the effectiveness of on-stage edge-guarding. However, [[meteor cancelling]] has been removed in ''Smash 4'', making meteor smashes as deadly as they were in ''Smash 64'', and [[planking]] is practically impossible. The new ledge-stealing mechanic can set-up recovering opponents for an attack, most commonly a back aerial. The longer recoveries enforce and encourage more aggressive offstage play, as offstage edge-guarding carries much less risk than before, since an edge-guarder can no longer be edge-hogged if their attempt is unsuccessful. Also, the improvements to recoveries are not consistent across the cast. {{SSB4|Marth}}'s recovery is largely unchanged from before; {{SSB4|Fox}}'s recovery is twice as long as in ''Brawl,'' as [[Fox Illusion]] and [[Fire Fox]] can now be used in tandem; and Ganondorf's recovery is even worse due to his lowered [[air speed]] and the removal of grab-armor, and {{SSB4|Charizard}} suffers severely with the loss of [[gliding]]. Most notably, ''Smash 4'' introduces {{SSB4|Little Mac}}, whose recovery is undoubtedly the worst in the entire series. | ||
Lastly, in ''Smash 4,'' [[teching]] cannot be performed during [[hitlag]], causing certain stage-spikes to be un-techable, and the new ledge mechanics make stage-spikes more common than in past games. All these changes have contributed to more offstage battles in competitive play, as edge-guarding is much safer while still rewarding if successful. As in ''Brawl,'' Meta Knight is noteworthy for his edge-guarding ability, along with characters who possess useful meteor smashes, particularly {{SSB4|Captain Falcon}} and {{SSB4|Ganondorf}}. | |||
== | == Edge-guarding strategies == | ||
=== | === On-stage guarding === | ||
The simplest and safest way to | |||
The simplest and safest way to edge-guard is to stand at the edge and throw attacks - often a powerful [[forward smash]], [[down smash]] or [[down tilt]] that can hit even an [[edge sweet spot]]ting enemy. While this method of edge-guarding requires the least set-up, it is often thwarted by sweet-spotting or ledge-teching. | |||
=== Using [[projectile]]s === | === Using [[projectile]]s === | ||
In a similar strategy to sitting on stage, a character with projectiles (especially projectiles affected by gravity, like [[Peach]]'s turnips or [[Mario]]'s fireballs) can stand by the edge and try to interrupt a faraway, recovering opponent. This strategy is very safe, in that players are very unlikely to be hit while | In a similar strategy to sitting on stage, a character with projectiles (especially projectiles affected by gravity, like [[Peach]]'s turnips or [[Mario]]'s fireballs) can stand by the edge and try to interrupt a faraway, recovering opponent. This strategy is very safe, in that players are very unlikely to be hit while edge-guarding in this fashion, and it can be combined with both edge-hogging and attacking from on-stage. | ||
=== | === Off-stage guarding === | ||
A risky, but deadly, way of edge-guarding is to jump off-stage and interrupt the opponent in mid-air. The recovering enemy has few options by which they can defend themself, such as using [[aerial attack]]s, [[air dodging]] or directing themself away from the edge-guarder. When using this style of edge-guarding, most characters put their own life in jeopardy, being so far off-stage. If, however, the edge-guarder is able to land a powerful aerial attack (like [[Captain Falcon]]'s [[Knee Smash]]) far off-stage, their enemy will almost certainly get KOed. Even if unsuccessful, the edge-guarder can often [[edge-hog]] the recovering opponent anyways, pre-''SSB4''. | |||
With most characters, it is best to avoid using the [[second jump]] before hitting the opponent. Many characters will not be able to make it back without it. Characters such as [[Jigglypuff]], [[Kirby]], and [[Meta Knight]] are very useful characters to use for this strategy. Their multiple jumps allow them to go far off stage and deliver an aerial attack. | |||
=== [[Edge-hogging]] === | |||
A common way to edge-guard is to edge-hog, or grab the ledge so that the opponent cannot. There are several ways to reach the ledge when standing on-stage. The two most common ways are to face away from the ledge and either [[short hop]] or [[wavedash]] backwards. Many players, when wavedashing backwards, make the mistake of standing too close to the edge before wavedashing, thereby [[air dodge|air dodging]] off-stage and self-destructing. Note also that with some characters, it is possible to fast-fall the wavedash off the stage and in effect grab the edge sooner. | |||
Usually, an edge-hogger rolls the moment the recovering enemy uses their [[third jump]], gaining invincibility frames and defending themself against damaging [[up special move]]s. Edge-hogging is effective against sweet-spotting, but can be beaten by an enemy that comes fully on-stage in their recovery. | |||
When an enemy lands fully on-stage they are often caught in the lag of their third jump. [[Edge hopping]] is often the method to keep them off the stage. This causes one to return to the starting position of choosing which edge guarding technique to use, but the opponent has slightly more damage, leading to a constant edgeguard game. | |||
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To avoid getting ledge trumped, one can simply buffer an attack, a jump, or a roll from the ledge the moment it is grabbed. A regular | Edge-hogging is not possible in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' because of the new ledge trump mechanics.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAyE5P-60w&feature=youtu.be&t=2m06s]. | ||
===Ledge Trump=== | |||
Only possible in ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', grabbing onto a ledge that has already been grabbed by another player will gently remove them from the ledge. While ledge trumping was intended to negate edge-hogging, it can still be used as an effective edge-guard; an on-stage player ledge trumps a recovering player by running off-stage and fast-falling onto the ledge as soon as the recovering player grabs it. This causes the recovering player to automatically let go of the ledge and they cannot take any action for a moment, allowing for an easy combo, such as {{SSB4|Sheik}}'s back air. In addition, the removal of ledge re-grab invincibility can be exploited by a ledge trump edge-guard.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vVug_cxA6A] | |||
To avoid getting ledge trumped, one can simply buffer an attack, a jump, or a roll from the ledge the moment it is grabbed. A regular get-up and dropping from the ledge cannot be buffered, making it much easier to trump someone attempting these ledge options, and waiting too long to buffer the previous options will still result in getting trumped. These can all be mixed up for mindgames. | |||
==Deterrence== | ==Deterrence== | ||
A somewhat underutilized ability, deterrence, is basically fake | A somewhat underutilized ability, deterrence, is basically fake off-stage guarding. The player would make to jump towards the opponent trying to recover, but instead return to the stage without ever engaging the enemy. If done convincingly, the opponent will attempt to evade the non-existent attack and hopefully miss the ledge or dodge right into a different attack. | ||
While this strategy works against newer players, it usually requires a twist against more advanced combatants. In this case, doubles play is usually necessary. | While this strategy works against newer players, it usually requires a twist against more advanced combatants. In this case, doubles play is usually necessary. | ||
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* In attempting to evade both attacks, the enemy completely misses the edge. | * In attempting to evade both attacks, the enemy completely misses the edge. | ||
==Notable | ==Notable edge-guarders== | ||
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*{{SSB|Captain Falcon}}: | ===''SSB64''=== | ||
*{{SSB|Kirby}}: | *{{SSB|Captain Falcon}}: his down aerial is a quick and powerful meteor smash. | ||
*{{SSB|Pikachu}}: | *{{SSB|Kirby}}: his back aerial has low start-up, is disjointed, and has a lingering hitbox, dealing high knockback during the first few frames. | ||
*{{SSB|Pikachu}}: with a long, quick, and safe recovery, Pikachu can go far offstage, where its fast, disjointed, and powerful back aerial is deadly. | |||
===''Melee''=== | ===''Melee''=== | ||
*{{SSBM|Falco}}: | *{{SSBM|Captain Falcon}}: his forward aerial, the [[Knee Smash]], is an extremely strong semi-spike. | ||
*{{SSBM|Fox}}: | *{{SSBM|Falco}}: down aerial has quick start-up and a lasting hitbox, and spikes powerfully throughout the entire move. | ||
*{{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}: | *{{SSBM|Fox}}: his [[Reflector]] has no start-up and semi-spikes opponents with high hitstun. | ||
*{{SSBM|Marth}}: | *{{SSBM|Ganondorf}}: he boasts the most powerful meteor smash in the game in his down aerial, which is difficult to survive even with meteor cancelling. His up aerial semi-spikes during the late hitboxes. | ||
*{{SSBM|Pikachu}}: | *{{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}: it can perform the [[Wall of Pain]], which involves chaining its back aerial into itself and carrying the opponent offstage. | ||
*{{SSBM|Marth}}: his down aerial has low start-up, a large hitbox, and spikes with high knockback, and is used as the finisher of the famous [[Ken Combo]]. | |||
*{{SSBM|Pikachu}}: the middle hitbox of its up aerial is a weak semi-spike that can be chained into itself. | |||
*{{SSBM|Sheik}}: her forward aerial has quick start-up and is a strong semi-spike. | |||
===''Brawl''=== | ===''Brawl''=== | ||
*{{SSBB|Falco}}: | *{{SSBB|Falco}}: his down aerial has quick start-up, and meteor smashes powerfully in the first few frames. | ||
*{{SSBB|King Dedede}}: | *{{SSBB|King Dedede}}: his back aerial is quick, disjointed, has a lingering hitbox, and is relatively strong. | ||
*{{SSBB|Marth}}: | *{{SSBB|Marth}}: his forward aerial is quick, has long reach, and deals moderate knockback. | ||
*{{SSBB|Meta Knight}}: | *{{SSBB|Meta Knight}}: with an incredible recovery and fast aerials, he can perform a pseudo Wall of Pain with his forward and back aerials. His down aerial is a moderately strong semi-spike, and his neutral aerial deals relatively high knockback. Aerial [[Shuttle Loop]] is a powerful semi-spike as well. | ||
*{{SSBB|Peach}}: | *{{SSBB|Ness}}: his back aerial has fast startup, is easy to land, and deals strong knockback. | ||
*{{SSBB|Wolf}}: | *{{SSBB|Peach}}: with her float ability, strong aerial game, and high priority, all of her aerial moves are excellent both on the stage and off the stage, although they aren't reliable KOing options (excluding down air as interrupt move). | ||
*{{SSBB|Wolf}}: his back aerial is quick, long-ranged, and strong. | |||
===''Smash 4''=== | ===''Smash 4''=== | ||
*{{SSB4|Bayonetta}}: Her neutral and up | *{{SSB4|Bayonetta}}: Her neutral and up aerials come out relatively fast, but have the added benefit of being extendable if the attack button is held for a time. Her down smash and down aerial can also cover nearly all horizontal recovery options as both have relatively strong meteor smashes. The latter also has a secondary hitbox upon landing on-stage, of which acts as a surprisingly powerful launcher that can catch recovering opponents just as well. | ||
*{{SSB4|Bowser}}: Back | *{{SSB4|Bowser}}: all of his aerials (sans down aerial) are useful off-stage, moreso due to Bowser's greatly enhanced recovery. Back aerial in particular is among the most powerful in the game, and is also very fast with good range. Forward smash can hit ledge-grabbers if spaced correctly, and Fire Breath can be used to push opponents down and away from the ledge. | ||
*{{SSB4|Captain Falcon}}: | *{{SSB4|Captain Falcon}}: his down aerial is relatively fast, has a large hitbox, and is a powerful meteor smash. | ||
*{{SSB4|Fox}}: | *{{SSB4|Fox}}: his back aerial is quick, and is a strong semi-spike if sweetspotted. | ||
*{{SSB4|Ganondorf}}: | *{{SSB4|Ganondorf}}: the removal of meteor cancelling makes his down aerial meteor smash even deadlier than before. | ||
*{{SSB4|Greninja}}: [[Hydro Pump]] is effective at disrupting recoveries, as the water does not cause flinching | *{{SSB4|Greninja}}: [[Hydro Pump]] is effective at disrupting recoveries, as the water does not cause flinching. | ||
*{{SSB4|Ike}}: | *{{SSB4|Ike}}: his back aerial is quick, long-ranged, and deals high knockback. Eruption has a deceptively large hitbox which can also hit ledge-grabbers. | ||
*{{SSB4|Little Mac}}: | *{{SSB4|Jigglypuff}}: can perform a Wall of Pain by chaining forward aerials and finishing with a neutral aerial. Its neutral aerial is also effective for blocking recoveries. | ||
*{{SSB4| | *{{SSB4|Kirby}}: forward aerial is effective as a wall of pain, and all aerials are effective to chase opponents off-stage with. | ||
*{{SSB4|Mario}}: F.L.U.D.D. | *{{SSB4|Little Mac}}: despite his infamously weak offstage presence, Little Mac can still edgeguard with his down smash, which is very long, fast, and can semi-spike, or with [[Jolt Haymaker]] which stage spikes powerfully against opponents grabbing ledges. His forward and back aerials can also be ironically useful edgeguarding tools, as their speed and semi-spike angles allow them to surprise enemies who do not expect Mac to get in the air. | ||
*{{SSB4|Marth}}/{{SSB4|Lucina}}: | *{{SSB4|Lucario}}: with enough [[Aura]], it possesses the strongest back aerial in the game. | ||
*{{SSB4| | *{{SSB4|Mario}}: F.L.U.D.D. and Cape are very useful tools against recovering opponents, the latter being very quick and able to reverse most up-special moves. Forward aerial is a powerful meteor with a large hitbox. | ||
*{{SSB4|Marth}}/{{SSB4|Lucina}}: forward aerial is useful offstage, due to its speed, range, and decent power. Dolphin Slash is also useful against opponents near the ledge, since it can stage-spike very easily. Marth's tipped forward smash is also capable of hitting opponents on the ledge if spaced correctly, almost guaranteeing a KO if it does. | |||
*{{SSB4|Meta Knight}}: his back aerial is deceptively strong, and has relatively long range and duration, and his down aerial is a quick semi-spike. Neutral aerial is also very quick and useful off-stage. | |||
*{{SSB4|Shulk}}: using the Jump Art, Shulk can easily take wing after his opponents and perform what would normally be extremely risky attacks such as his forward aerial to push opponents back before safely returning to the ledge. While it's possible to air dodge through the attack, his Art allows him to attack multiple times depending on altitude, and he can quickly return to the ledge to try again if need be. The final frames of his forward aerial also sends enemies backwards, which can cause a surprise stage spike. | |||
*{{SSB4|Villager}}: can use forward smash or [[Timber]] to drop a powerful projectile from the ledge, and has effective aerials along with a long, reliable recovery. | |||
*{{SSB4|Luigi}} : can mash his Down Special to gimp the opponents with a ton of hitsun, which can lead to a kill for characters having poor recovery. Extremely effective against slow and low recovering under the ledge, such as Cloud, Ryu, Little Mac, Shulk, Roy, Corrin, Fox, Falco, or no hitbox recovery move, as Pit, Dark Pit, Rosalina, Duck Hunt, Olimar. Can effectively trade with characters with short-lenght recovery, as Mario, Luigi, Dr. Mario, Link. | |||
=== | ==Demonstration video== | ||
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