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Due to the character's unorthodox playstyle and sudden rise in the metagame, many people began to argue that Steve should be banned. While this movement initially took a while to gain momentum, the discussion began in earnest in early 2022 with the sudden rise of players unknown prior to Steve's release, as well as the number of top player upsets by then-unranked players (such as {{Sm|Dabuz}} by {{Sm|yonni}} or {{Sm|Tweek}} by {{Sm|DDog}}). Discussion on Steve's ban heated up around the Summer of 2022 with the rise of {{Sm|acola}} and {{Sm|Onin}}, both of whom dominated their | Due to the character's unorthodox playstyle and sudden rise in the metagame, many people began to argue that Steve should be banned. While this movement initially took a while to gain momentum, the discussion began in earnest in early 2022 with the sudden rise of players unknown prior to Steve's release, as well as the number of top player upsets by then-unranked players (such as {{Sm|Dabuz}} by {{Sm|yonni}} or {{Sm|Tweek}} by {{Sm|DDog}}). Discussion on Steve's ban heated up around the Summer of 2022 with the rise of {{Sm|acola}} and {{Sm|Onin}}, both of whom dominated their scenes and won multiple majors despite being relatively unknown players months prior. In particular, Onin's dominant victory at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2022}}, which included a devastating 3-0 victory over {{Sm|MkLeo}}; acola's victory at his debut overseas tournament {{Trn|The Gimvitational}}; and the Steve ditto between the two players at {{Trn|Let's Make Moves Miami}} led many players to compare Steve to ''Brawl'' {{SSBB|Meta Knight}} and ''Smash 4'' {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}, two characters who dominated their game's respective metagames. | ||
Proponents of Steve's ban argue that his ability to change a stage's layout with blocks and create near-unbeatable setups whether onstage or ledgetrapping has led to him being too strong with little viable counterplay. Some of his more notorious techniques include placing a block above the ledge and then using his Back Throw to either [[Stage Spike]] the opponent if they don't [[tech]] or guarantee a Forward smash if they do, chaining jabs across the stage to carry the opponent offstage or combo into a Forward Smash at the ledge, and using Down smash on his own TNT and buffering an [[Air dodge]] to avoid the explosion, covering most recovery options with a single move. Some of these players also argue that most players who saw success with Steve were "unknown" players prior to the character swap, and that their sudden burst of success proves that Steve "carries" his players. They pointed out how the metagame was being populated with Steve players - for example, Super Smash Con 2022 had 9 Steve players make top 64 while all other characters had 4 or less players<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/woohfu/top_64_character_representation_at_super_smash/|title=Top 64 Character Representation at Super Smash Con 2022}}</ref> - and that the character's increasing presence in the metagame was driving players away from the game. | Proponents of Steve's ban argue that his ability to change a stage's layout with blocks and create near-unbeatable setups whether onstage or ledgetrapping has led to him being too strong with little viable counterplay. Some of his more notorious techniques include placing a block above the ledge and then using his Back Throw to either [[Stage Spike]] the opponent if they don't [[tech]] or guarantee a Forward smash if they do, chaining jabs across the stage to carry the opponent offstage or combo into a Forward Smash at the ledge, and using Down smash on his own TNT and buffering an [[Air dodge]] to avoid the explosion, covering most recovery options with a single move. Some of these players also argue that most players who saw success with Steve were "unknown" players prior to the character swap, and that their sudden burst of success proves that Steve "carries" his players. They pointed out how the metagame was being populated with Steve players - for example, Super Smash Con 2022 had 9 Steve players make top 64 while all other characters had 4 or less players<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/woohfu/top_64_character_representation_at_super_smash/|title=Top 64 Character Representation at Super Smash Con 2022}}</ref> - and that the character's increasing presence in the metagame was driving players away from the game. | ||