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**{{nerf|Neutral aerial has more landing lag (10 frames → 14).}} | **{{nerf|Neutral aerial has more landing lag (10 frames → 14).}} | ||
**{{nerf|Neutral aerial has smaller hitboxes, especially the late hit (4.5u/4.5u (both) → 4.5u/4u (clean), 3u/2.5u (late)).}} | **{{nerf|Neutral aerial has smaller hitboxes, especially the late hit (4.5u/4.5u (both) → 4.5u/4u (clean), 3u/2.5u (late)).}} | ||
**{{nerf|The clean hit deals less damage (14% → 12%) and has decreased knockback scaling (100 → 90), significantly hindering its KO potential.}} | **{{nerf|The clean hit deals less damage (14% → 12%) and has decreased knockback scaling (100 → 90), significantly hindering its KO potential, especially near ground level.}} | ||
***{{buff|However, this also significantly improves its combo potential.}} | ***{{buff|However, this also significantly improves its combo potential.}} | ||
**{{nerf|The clean hit has a shorter duration (frames 3-6 → 3-5).}} | **{{nerf|The clean hit has a shorter duration (frames 3-6 → 3-5).}} | ||
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**{{nerf|Forward aerial has a new, longer animation (34 frames → 39), increasing the amount of time Luigi cannot grab ledges after performing the move.}} | **{{nerf|Forward aerial has a new, longer animation (34 frames → 39), increasing the amount of time Luigi cannot grab ledges after performing the move.}} | ||
*[[Back aerial]]: | *[[Back aerial]]: | ||
**{{buff| | **{{buff|Back aerial's clean hit has a sweetspot on Luigi's foot. This sweetspot deals more damage (12% → 14%) and its knockback was not compensated, greatly improving its KO potential.}} | ||
**{{buff|The clean hit's leg hitbox is marginally larger (5.76u → 5.8u).}} | **{{buff|The clean hit's leg hitbox is marginally larger (5.76u → 5.8u).}} | ||
**{{nerf|Back aerial has more ending lag (FAF 37 → 46), losing its [[interruptibility]].}} | **{{nerf|Back aerial has more ending lag (FAF 37 → 46), losing its [[interruptibility]].}} | ||
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**{{nerf|Back aerial has a shorter initial auto-cancel window (frames 1-5 → 1-2).}} | **{{nerf|Back aerial has a shorter initial auto-cancel window (frames 1-5 → 1-2).}} | ||
**{{nerf|Back aerial has a shorter duration (frames 6-9 (clean)/10-16 (late) → 6-7/8-13).}} | **{{nerf|Back aerial has a shorter duration (frames 6-9 (clean)/10-16 (late) → 6-7/8-13).}} | ||
**{{nerf|The clean hit's | **{{nerf|The clean hit has now a sourspot on Luigi's legs. The sourspot deals noticeably less damage (12% → 8%) without compensation on its knockback, matching the late hit, no longer having any KO potential.}} | ||
***{{buff|However, this allows it to [[lock]] more efficiently.}} | |||
**{{nerf|The late hit has smaller hitboxes (4.5u/5.76u → 4u/5u).}} | **{{nerf|The late hit has smaller hitboxes (4.5u/5.76u → 4u/5u).}} | ||
*[[Up aerial]]: | *[[Up aerial]]: | ||
**{{change|Clean up aerial deals less damage (13% → 11%). This improves its combo potential, but hinders its KO potential.}} | **{{change|Clean up aerial deals less damage (13% → 11%). This improves its combo potential, but hinders its KO potential.}} | ||
*[[Down aerial]]: | *[[Down aerial]]: | ||
**{{buff|Down aerial now has a clean hit on its first active frame which consistently meteor smashes, similar to the previous body hitbox. | **{{buff|Down aerial now has a clean hit on its first active frame which consistently meteor smashes, similar to the previous body hitbox. Since it's located on his feet instead of his chest, this makes it much easier and more consistent to meteor smash with down aerial.}} | ||
**{{buff|The late hit's foot hitbox is larger (5u → 5.2u).}} | **{{buff|The late hit's foot hitbox is larger (5u → 5.2u).}} | ||
**{{nerf|Down aerial has more landing lag (12 frames → 20).}} | **{{nerf|Down aerial has more landing lag (12 frames → 20).}} | ||
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<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Luigi English Announcer SSB4-SSBU.wav|English/Japanese/Chinese | Luigi English Announcer SSB4-SSBU.wav|English/Japanese/Chinese | ||
Luigi German Announcer SSBU.wav|German | |||
Luigi French Announcer SSBU.wav|French | Luigi French Announcer SSBU.wav|French | ||
Luigi | Luigi Spanish Announcer SSBU.wav|Spanish | ||
Luigi Italian Announcer SSBU.wav|Italian | Luigi Italian Announcer SSBU.wav|Italian | ||
Luigi | Luigi Russian Announcer SSBU.wav|Russian | ||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
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==In [[competitive play]]== | ==In [[competitive play]]== | ||
===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]=== | ===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]=== | ||
{{OfficialCustomMoves | {{OfficialCustomMoves | ||
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}} | }} | ||
===Most historically significant players=== | ===Most historically significant players=== | ||
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'' | ''See also: [[:Category:Luigi players (SSB4)]]'' | ||
*{{Sm|Elegant|USA}} - The best Luigi player of all-time. He made his mark on the scene by becoming the best Luigi player past the 1.1.1. update, placing 7th at {{Trn|2GGT: Abadango Saga}} and top 16 at a few other 2GGT events held in 2016. He most notably placed 2nd at {{Trn|GameTyrant Expo 2017}}, defeating {{Sm|MkLeo}} and {{Sm|Ally}} and marks the best run seen by a Luigi player in all of ''Smash 4''. He peaked at 11th on the [[Panda Global Rankings v4]] and placed 27th on the [[PGR 100]], the highest seen by any solo-Luigi player. | |||
*{{Sm|J.Miller|UK}} - The best Luigi player in Europe as well as one of the best players from Europe during the early metagame. He notably won at {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 5}} and placed 17th at {{Trn|Apex 2015}}, some of the biggest ''Smash 4'' tournaments in the game's first year. As the meta progressed in Europe, he still maintained strong results at more populated tournaments in the country, placing 9th at both {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 7}} and {{Trn|Smashdown World}}. | |||
*{{Sm|MrConCon|USA}} - The best Luigi player in the world during the early metagame, prior to the 1.1.1. update. He made two notable milestones with the character around this time, being the first person to defeat {{Sm|ZeRo}} in a tournament set, doing so at the local [http://challonge.com/oomba4smash Smash 4 Oomba 5/1], as well as being the first ever solo-Luigi player to be globally ranked with 36th on the [[Panda Global Rankings v1]]. Even past Elegant's rise in the scene, he was still in contention for one of the best Luigi players in the world, placing 7th at {{Trn|IBP Masters Showdown}} and 33rd at {{Trn|2GGC: Civil War}}. | |||
*{{Sm|Ron|Japan}} - Tri-mained Luigi alongside {{SSB4|Mario}} and {{SSB4|Yoshi}} and is considered the best Luigi player in Japan. His tri-main efficiency brought him a win at {{Trn|Sumabato 18}}, using Luigi to defeat {{Sm|Shuton}} in winners finals. He particularly used Mario and Luigi at many other Sumabato events, most notably seen in his runner-up finishes at {{Trn|Sumabato 12}} and {{Trn|Sumabato 20}}. He ranked 57th on the [[PGR 100]] with Luigi as one of his characters. | |||
*{{Sm|Shoyo James|USA}} - Co-mained Luigi alongside {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}} and is one of the best Luigi players in the United States, placing 54th on the [[PGR 100]]. As a co-main, he would occasionally opt to use Luigi against Diddy Kong, shown in his victories against {{Sm|Zinoto}} at his 7th place finish at {{Trn|Showdown: Battle Royale 2}} and {{Sm|MVD}} at his 13th place finish at {{Trn|Frostbite 2017}}. His best win as Luigi was against {{Sm|Ally}} at his 2nd place finish at {{Trn|Midwest Mayhem 6: SoCal Invasion}}. | |||
'' | ===Tier placement and history=== | ||
Since ''SSB4''{{'}}s release, Luigi's placement was a topic of debate, as his buffs were quickly acknowledged in his transition from ''Brawl'' and saw him perceived as a mid-tier character. Positive opinions on Luigi, however, saw a sudden rise from early to mid-2015, as players recognized his down throw's outstanding combo potential. In addition, he was noted for having an even matchup against {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}, then considered the best character in the game, thanks to multiple high-profile cases of a Luigi player defeating a noteworthy Diddy Kong player in tournaments. The most notable instance of this was {{Sm|Mr. ConCon}} achieving a bracket reset against {{Sm|ZeRo}}. Thanks to these traits, Luigi was perceived by the community as both a viable main and a top-tier character, despite having fairly limited usage at high-level play. | |||
However, Luigi's perception underwent a noticeable drop after update [[1.1.1]] altered his down throw's knockback to the point of heavily altering its guaranteed KO set-ups, and brought about changes to shield mechanics that made it harder for him to punish [[out of shield]]. Despite this, Luigi's down throw has shown to actually possess better combo potential at low to medium percentages, which was notably demonstrated by {{Sm|Poke}} and {{Sm|Boss}}. When coupled with his impressive performances up to update 1.1.1, Luigi was ranked 16th on the first [[tier list]], his best ranking in the series at the time. | |||
Although Luigi's combo potential remained largely intact, many players nevertheless dropped him because of his combo game's newfound flaws. This, in turn, was further compounded by the release of the DLC characters {{SSB4|Corrin}} and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}, two matchups considered unfavorable for him at the time. As a result, Luigi was ranked 29th on the second tier list, which saw him go from being the third highest ranked mid-tier character to the middle of the mid-tier. Although respectable, this placement was nevertheless a considerable downturn, as Luigi's tier drop was tied with {{SSB4|Wario}}'s for the second largest between the first and second tier lists. | |||
Thanks to his consistently strong results in some regions, Luigi was ranked 26th on the third tier list. Incidentally, this placement is roughly similar to where he was viewed as being in accordance to popular opinion during the very early months of ''SSB4''{{'}}s lifespan. Luigi's tier status would then improve even further, thanks to {{Sm|Elegant}} placing 2nd at [[GameTyrant Expo 2017]] and 5th at [[2GG Championship]]. In addition to these results, Luigi has managed to consistently achieve respectable results at the regional and national level, thanks to the efforts of {{Sm|Mr. ConCon}}, {{Sm|Scot!}} and {{Sm|Ron}}. To reflect his renewed tournament success, Luigi was ranked 18th on the fourth and current tier list, about equal to his rank before the down throw nerf, with some players arguing that Luigi should be ranked even higher. | |||
==[[Trophies]]== | ==[[Trophies]]== | ||