Joker (SSBU): Difference between revisions

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Despite all of these pros, Joker has some cons. One of his main weaknesses is that he sometimes struggles to take [[Stock|stocks]] at high percents when he does not have Arsène, making him reliant on edgeguards or raw KO moves. Joker also has mediocre [[out of shield]] options compared to much of the cast. This only limits him to using back aerial, [[grab]], and [[up smash]] if he wants to attack out of shield. While Arsène gives him many strengths, they also provide a few drawbacks. When Joker gets hit in this state, his meter depletes faster. Furthermore, while his [[recovery]] goes further with [[Grappling Hook / Wings of Rebellion|Wings of Rebellion]], it lacks a [[hitbox]] after the [[invincibility]] frames, allowing him to be [[2 frame punish|2 framed]] or edgeguarded. Joker is also quite a difficult character to master since he has to be precise with his combos and his edgeguarding while trying to compensate for these aforementioned weaknesses.
Despite all of these pros, Joker has some cons. One of his main weaknesses is that he sometimes struggles to take [[Stock|stocks]] at high percents when he does not have Arsène, making him reliant on edgeguards or raw KO moves. Joker also has mediocre [[out of shield]] options compared to much of the cast. This only limits him to using back aerial, [[grab]], and [[up smash]] if he wants to attack out of shield. While Arsène gives him many strengths, they also provide a few drawbacks. When Joker gets hit in this state, his meter depletes faster. Furthermore, while his [[recovery]] goes further with [[Grappling Hook / Wings of Rebellion|Wings of Rebellion]], it lacks a [[hitbox]] after the [[invincibility]] frames, allowing him to be [[2 frame punish|2 framed]] or edgeguarded. Joker is also quite a difficult character to master since he has to be precise with his combos and his edgeguarding while trying to compensate for these aforementioned weaknesses.


Joker amassed impressive results before the [[COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on competitive Smash|COVID-19 pandemic]], most notably with {{Sm|MkLeo}} winning a number of [[Major|majors]] with him and {{Sm|Zackray}} also doing well with the character. When offline events returned in 2021 and 2022, Joker saw a slight drop in use due to MKLeo switching over to [[Byleth (SSBU)|Byleth]] and [[Aegis]] for the majority of tournaments while Zackray took a break to play {{s|bulbapedia|Pokemon Unite}}. Joker still sees results from players, such as {{Sm|omega}}, {{Sm|eMass}}, and {{Sm|Tsubaki|p=Shizuoka}}. In 2023, MKLeo returned to focus on Joker and won {{Trn|GENESIS 9}} primarily using the character, and has recently restated his commitment to maining the Phantom Thief after a several month long character crisis.
Joker amassed impressive results before the [[COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on competitive Smash|COVID-19 pandemic]], most notably with {{Sm|MkLeo}} winning a number of [[Major|majors]] with him and {{Sm|Zackray}} also doing well with the character. When offline events returned in 2021 and 2022, Joker saw a slight drop in use due to MKLeo switching over to [[Byleth (SSBU)|Byleth]] and [[Aegis]] for the majority of tournaments while Zackray took a break to play {{s|bulbapedia|Pokemon Unite}}. Joker still sees results from players, such as {{Sm|eMass}} and {{Sm|Tsubaki|p=Shizuoka}}, while MkLeo has since readded Joker into his lineup.


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