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I '''oppose''' removing this information despite the often-annoying semantics issues involved. I think it serves a useful purpose analogous to the "newest entry in a series" listing - something [[The Legend of Zelda (universe)|both SmashWiki]] [[wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda|and Wikipedia]] list in infoboxes. Also, while it's reasonable to say we may need more definite ground rules to deal with odd edge cases here and there, a) for the most part the already-existing, informal rules are pretty clear and b) no set of rules is going to reasonably cover every edge case, so some things will inevitably need resolving on a case-by-case basis. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:36, December 10, 2022 (EST)
I '''oppose''' removing this information despite the often-annoying semantics issues involved. I think it serves a useful purpose analogous to the "newest entry in a series" listing - something [[The Legend of Zelda (universe)|both SmashWiki]] [[wikipedia:The Legend of Zelda|and Wikipedia]] list in infoboxes. Also, while it's reasonable to say we may need more definite ground rules to deal with odd edge cases here and there, a) for the most part the already-existing, informal rules are pretty clear and b) no set of rules is going to reasonably cover every edge case, so some things will inevitably need resolving on a case-by-case basis. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:36, December 10, 2022 (EST)
:You make a decent argument for why odd edge cases might not be the dealbreaker with removing the most recent non-smash appearances, but a big issue I also have is oversights that take literal years to catch though. For example, Falcon and Palutena didn't have WarioWare Gold, a 4 year old game, listed as their most appearance, despite appearing in the same capacity as Rob and Wii Fit Trainer, who did have it listed. Or Snake's latest appearance being listed as Super Bomberman R, which, while not a costume, is clearly not him. And while it's useful to note a cameo in something the reader would have otherwise not known about, that argument dies the instant a series gets another installment and said character is in it. Also, with the Wikipedia argument, listing and constantly updating a series' latest entry is significantly easier to keep track of than a character's latest appearance, which is why Wikipedia omits the latter. Instead of having to determine what counts as a cameo, they instead just have to deal with which rereleases count as new entries, which in itself is already kind of a pain. [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon|talk]]) 15:30, December 10, 2022 (EST)
:You make a decent argument for why odd edge cases might not be the dealbreaker with removing the most recent non-smash appearances, but a big issue I also have is oversights that take literal years to catch though. For example, Falcon and Palutena didn't have WarioWare Gold, a 4 year old game, listed as their most appearance, despite appearing in the same capacity as Rob and Wii Fit Trainer, who did have it listed. Or Snake's latest appearance being listed as Super Bomberman R, which, while not a costume, is clearly not him. And while it's useful to note a cameo in something the reader would have otherwise not known about, that argument dies the instant a series gets another installment and said character is in it. Also, with the Wikipedia argument, listing and constantly updating a series' latest entry is significantly easier to keep track of than a character's latest appearance, which is why Wikipedia omits the latter. Instead of having to determine what counts as a cameo, they instead just have to deal with which rereleases count as new entries, which in itself is already kind of a pain. [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon|talk]]) 15:30, December 10, 2022 (EST)
I '''oppose''' removing that section, for the points laid out above, and it's a fun little valuable thing to list. Like someone could that see that in go "Oh, this character is in this game that recently released, nice." [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool 🦊Furry🦊 Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 23:16, December 11, 2022 (EST)