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::How does that apply here? This isn't a matter of "was Giant Kirby ever notable", it's "there's nothing more special about Giant Kirby than the plethora of other giant characters you fight in Smash single-player", and the scant of relevant information about him is contained within the associated single-player modes articles. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:34, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
::How does that apply here? This isn't a matter of "was Giant Kirby ever notable", it's "there's nothing more special about Giant Kirby than the plethora of other giant characters you fight in Smash single-player", and the scant of relevant information about him is contained within the associated single-player modes articles. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:34, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
:::This is perhaps not the best example I admit. Giant Kirby certainly has the least importance compared to Giant Bowser (same deal really), the Kirby team (unique mechanic that other teams don't have), and the Yoshi Team (shaped the lore of Yoshi in not only Smash Bros. but the Mario series itself). But this certainly ''is'' a question of historical notability. At the time we had little/no way of knowing whether there was a mechanical difference between SSB64's Giant DK and SSBM's Giant Kirby. In the context of the time, there was every reason to believe they had equal importance, and the wiki editors behaved accordingly. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 12:12, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
:::This is perhaps not the best example I admit. Giant Kirby certainly has the least importance compared to Giant Bowser (same deal really), the Kirby team (unique mechanic that other teams don't have), and the Yoshi Team (shaped the lore of Yoshi in not only Smash Bros. but the Mario series itself). But this certainly ''is'' a question of historical notability. At the time we had little/no way of knowing whether there was a mechanical difference between SSB64's Giant DK and SSBM's Giant Kirby. In the context of the time, there was every reason to believe they had equal importance, and the wiki editors behaved accordingly. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 12:12, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
::::In the context of the time, while the datamining tools people have today weren't around in 2002, what was definitely obvious was that the Super Mushroom didn't exist in 64, so either way Giant DK was of more importance because he was the only one in 64 who could have the giant modifier (especially so nowadays because we know that he's coded to be a separate character). I'll admit I was hesitant to tag the Yoshi/Kirby teams for deletion, given that the Yoshi team uses costumes the playable Yoshi couldn't use in 64, and the Kirby Team does have a unique mechanic other teams don't (though to be fair that's because the character is Kirby, who has the unique copy ability mechanic that can't apply to anybody else), and I completely forgot about Giant Bowser (which, as both of you mentioned, is the same deal as Giant Kirby). [[User:Unnamed anon|Unnamed anon]] ([[User talk:Unnamed anon|talk]]) 13:50, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

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i <3 (er... love) Kirby!!

I have loved Kirby since the very first Smash Bros... so much that i created a site about him-- [kirbyclub.cjb.net The Kirby Club](visit that site and join with your google account if you wish). But I have never seen or played Melee (although im looking for an emulator as im looking round this site =) ) so how big is kirby? someone reply please !!

~~~~kirbylover4000 (i am yet to be a user...)~~~~

Why exactly...

...do we have a page on him (and slightly less notably, Giant Bowser and Giant DK) but not Giant Charizard? It seems like a hole in the giant-versions-of-characters boss collection. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 21:46, 25 September 2015 (EDT)

Adventure Mode > 1 Event, I assume. Miles (talk) 23:28, 25 September 2015 (EDT)

Deletion

I agree with the deletion of the Giant Kirby, Giant Bowser, Kirby team, and Yoshi team articles; they are not any distinct entities with their own special properties, and so these articles basically just boil down to "Smash 64/Melee had you fight them in their 1P mode/Adventure mode, and then future Smash games sometimes had you fight them among a bunch of other giant and team character possibilities". The relevant information is entirely covered in the relevant single-player mode articles. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 08:49, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

Is the general policy not "once notable, always notable"? Toomai Glittershine ??? The Spectrum 09:59, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
How does that apply here? This isn't a matter of "was Giant Kirby ever notable", it's "there's nothing more special about Giant Kirby than the plethora of other giant characters you fight in Smash single-player", and the scant of relevant information about him is contained within the associated single-player modes articles. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 10:34, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
This is perhaps not the best example I admit. Giant Kirby certainly has the least importance compared to Giant Bowser (same deal really), the Kirby team (unique mechanic that other teams don't have), and the Yoshi Team (shaped the lore of Yoshi in not only Smash Bros. but the Mario series itself). But this certainly is a question of historical notability. At the time we had little/no way of knowing whether there was a mechanical difference between SSB64's Giant DK and SSBM's Giant Kirby. In the context of the time, there was every reason to believe they had equal importance, and the wiki editors behaved accordingly. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Labbie 12:12, July 1, 2023 (EDT)
In the context of the time, while the datamining tools people have today weren't around in 2002, what was definitely obvious was that the Super Mushroom didn't exist in 64, so either way Giant DK was of more importance because he was the only one in 64 who could have the giant modifier (especially so nowadays because we know that he's coded to be a separate character). I'll admit I was hesitant to tag the Yoshi/Kirby teams for deletion, given that the Yoshi team uses costumes the playable Yoshi couldn't use in 64, and the Kirby Team does have a unique mechanic other teams don't (though to be fair that's because the character is Kirby, who has the unique copy ability mechanic that can't apply to anybody else), and I completely forgot about Giant Bowser (which, as both of you mentioned, is the same deal as Giant Kirby). Unnamed anon (talk) 13:50, July 1, 2023 (EDT)