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*{{SSBB|Lucas}} and {{SSBB|Squirtle}}'s down throws in ''Brawl'' are some of the strongest in the series, and among the few down throws that can KO reliably, doing so under 170% even with proper [[DI]]. In later games, they deal drastically less knockback that removes their KO potential, but the changes to [[hitstun canceling]] enable them to start combos at various percents. | *{{SSBB|Lucas}} and {{SSBB|Squirtle}}'s down throws in ''Brawl'' are some of the strongest in the series, and among the few down throws that can KO reliably, doing so under 170% even with proper [[DI]]. In later games, they deal drastically less knockback that removes their KO potential, but the changes to [[hitstun canceling]] enable them to start combos at various percents. | ||
**{{SSB4|Shulk}}'s down throw in ''Smash 4'' is the strongest in the series with the Smash [[Monado Art]] activated, KOing at around 110% at the edge and 180% from center stage. In ''Ultimate'', however, it has been greatly [[nerf]]ed, no longer KOing at the edge until around 170% even with the Smash Art's increased knockback multiplier. | **{{SSB4|Shulk}}'s down throw in ''Smash 4'' is the strongest in the series with the Smash [[Monado Art]] activated, KOing at around 110% at the edge and 180% from center stage. In ''Ultimate'', however, it has been greatly [[nerf]]ed, no longer KOing at the edge until around 170% even with the Smash Art's increased knockback multiplier. | ||
***{{SSBU|Ivysaur}}'s down throw in ''Ultimate'' is the strongest in the game when Shulk Smash Monado Art was nerfed. His down throw can KO opponents around 160% | ***{{SSBU|Ivysaur}}'s down throw in ''Ultimate'' is the strongest in the game when Shulk Smash Monado Art was nerfed. His down throw can KO opponents around 160% which is the second strongest in the game. | ||
*{{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}'s down throw in ''Smash 4'' is notable for easily comboing into aerial attacks against nearly any character, even at high percents, which originally allowed for a guaranteed KO setup into an up aerial. This ability to easily both combo and KO opponents initially created controversy over the character in competitive play and the KO setup was infamously known as the "Hoo-Hah", due to {{sm|StaticManny}} shouting the phrase whenever it happened to {{sm|Hungrybox}} in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-6oRB4ABo/ a set] vs. {{sm|Player-1}} at [[Paragon Orlando 2015]]. However, updates [[1.0.6]] and [[1.0.8]] severely [[nerf]]ed Diddy Kong, decreasing his down throw's combo potential and his up aerial's KO potential, effectively removing the setup. | *{{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}'s down throw in ''Smash 4'' is notable for easily comboing into aerial attacks against nearly any character, even at high percents, which originally allowed for a guaranteed KO setup into an up aerial. This ability to easily both combo and KO opponents initially created controversy over the character in competitive play and the KO setup was infamously known as the "Hoo-Hah", due to {{sm|StaticManny}} shouting the phrase whenever it happened to {{sm|Hungrybox}} in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-6oRB4ABo/ a set] vs. {{sm|Player-1}} at [[Paragon Orlando 2015]]. However, updates [[1.0.6]] and [[1.0.8]] severely [[nerf]]ed Diddy Kong, decreasing his down throw's combo potential and his up aerial's KO potential, effectively removing the setup. | ||
*{{SSB4|Luigi}} and {{SSB4|Mr. Game & Watch}} in ''Smash 4'' have the down throws with the best combo potential, giving them a large number of combos in comparison to most other characters: Luigi's down throw can combo into up smash, any of his aerials, Luigi Cyclone and even Super Jump Punch to KO, while Mr. Game & Watch's can combo into jab, up tilt or up smash at low percents, then into any aerial, [[Fire]], [[Oil Panic]], or [[Judge]] - the last of which can lead to a [[one-hit KO]] if it rolls a #9. | *{{SSB4|Luigi}} and {{SSB4|Mr. Game & Watch}} in ''Smash 4'' have the down throws with the best combo potential, giving them a large number of combos in comparison to most other characters: Luigi's down throw can combo into up smash, any of his aerials, Luigi Cyclone and even Super Jump Punch to KO, while Mr. Game & Watch's can combo into jab, up tilt or up smash at low percents, then into any aerial, [[Fire]], [[Oil Panic]], or [[Judge]] - the last of which can lead to a [[one-hit KO]] if it rolls a #9. |